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'Rust' prop person shot herself in the foot in accidental discharge prior to Alec Baldwin shooting: report
Tyler McCarthy
Mon, November 1, 2021, 11:02 AM
The production of the Alec Baldwin movie "Rust" reportedly saw multiple accidental discharges take place on the set prior to the one that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead.
All eyes have been on the set’s armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, who had only worked as the armorer on one film prior to leading things on "Rust." As she becomes one of the main focuses of the investigation into the death of Hutchins, a new report from the Los Angeles Times indicates that crew members were concerned about her work and that other accidental discharges had happened prior.
The outlet reports that a total of three incidents involving guns being fired accidentally happened prior to the incident involving Baldwin on Oct. 21. One involved Baldwin’s stunt double firing a blank round after he was told the gun he was holding was "cold," an industry term meaning that there were no projectiles in the firearm. This is similar to what assistant director Dave Halls told Baldwin on the day of the shooting, not realizing that a live round was in the gun he handed the actor before declaring it "cold."
The outlet reports another shooting involved a woman in the props department. She was handling a gun and accidentally shot herself in the foot with a blank round, according to Lane Luper, the A-camera first assistant on "Rust."
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Because the round was blank, it’s unclear if any serious injury resulted from the accidental discharge.
These reports back up what Gutierrez Reed’s attorneys previously told Fox News in a statement about her involvement with the accidental death and the conditions on the "Rust" set. New Mexico-based lawyers Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence noted that "safety is Hannah’s number one priority."
They also explained that she has never had an accidental discharge herself, but they admitted that at least two had taken place on the set.
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"The first one on this set was the prop master and the second one was a stunt man after Hannah informed him his gun was hot with blanks," they said.
Halyna Hutchins was a rising star in the cinematography world when she was hit with a projectile on set that ultimately killed her. Photo by Fred Hayes/Getty Images for SAGindie
Also in their statement, her attorneys seemingly shifted the blame away from the set’s armorer to a larger conversation about the resources she was given by producers to ensure the set was safe and up to protocol standards.
"She fought for training, days to maintain weapons and proper time to prepare for gunfire but ultimately was overruled by production and her department."
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However, in another contradiction between Gutierrez Reed’s statement and crew members’ accounts reported by the L.A. Times, there was a safety meeting with the cast and crew on the set of "Rust" the morning of the deadly shooting incident.
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"This is similar to what assistant director Dave Halls told Baldwin on the day of the shooting, not realizing that a live round was in the gun he handed the actor before declaring it "cold.""
So . . . he said it was empty "cold", but he didn't really know - or look - before saying so?
Irrelevant.
Baldwin took a loaded gun, pointed it at someone and shot them and killed them.
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Just because five people before Baldwin screwed up, he was the last one in a string of failures and the one that pulled the trigger.
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Hilarious. She shot herself in the foot and it isn't relevant to the investigation.
Goes to show cause. They are all guilty.
Yes. Unless it ricocheted and ended up being the bullet that killed the director, it's pretty irrelevant. In the same way it's irrelevant to you shooting your glove box.
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Some will fall in love with life
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Nonsense again. Oh the old glove box response. For the hundredth Time.. I GOT A SETTLEMENT WITH THAT...
Still waiting in Politics...on the thread you posted....Just what kind of Plan does the Govt. Have?
are you some sort of insider that knows something about our Govt. what they plan on doing?
Yep, bottom line. He who pulls the trigger up tight has taken all responsibility for the gun's hot or cold status. No different that driving a commercial truck. It doesn't matter who worked on that truck, or who loaded it. When you climb into the driver'd seat, and push the starter button, you are signing off that the truck and it's load are fit for operation upon public roadways.
Nope. I just read what they tell us they are doing.
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Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
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The gal who shot herself in the foot did so with a blank round. the reporter was unsure if she was injured. At a distance of 36 inches, could you get injured being shot with a blank?
That's RIGHT Mr. P.
Baldwin pointed the gun. Pulled the trigger. Not the Armorer. Not the camera man. Not the sound man.
Not Baldi's mama, sister, brother, OR the horse he rode in on. lt was Baldwin, only Baldwin. NOBODY ELSE
Look up “ the hand of one is the hand of all” legal premise.
massive civil suit. the lawyer i know says in excess of $16 million. he says no criminal charges against baldwin, but felony charges against the assistant director.
we shall see, but the civil case will be settled out of court. baldwins attorneys dont want this going before a jury.
On the other hand, in the aircraft world, the inspector who authorized my airplane is responsible if something goes wrong and I end up hurting someone/something. Unless it is proven that I was totally negligent in the damage caused, the eyes turn toward anyone who worked on or certified the airplane as “safe to operate “.
Therefore, the armorer and the assistant director who authorized Baldwin to operation the said firearm could be more liable than Baldwin himself. He relied on the experts as I would rely on the aircraft mechanics, (providing I knew zilch about airplanes) who said “good to go”.
As far as aiming goes, he probably didn’t give a rip about where the firearm was pointed as long as the camera got the shot somewhat straight ahead into the camera, give or take a few degrees left or right. She just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time..
Merlin12, I learned that as an Aerospace Inspector real quick. When you " Sign off " on a part and certify it is correct you could be the one responsible for lives if the aircraft were to crash. And as you well know... every part has a marking on it from where it came from. They can be traced back to the operator who made the part and the samples of the material in which they were made.
I still don't understand why or how ANY gun loaded with 'live ammo' could/would be allowed on a movie set for ANY reason.
Blanks? Yeah, that's understandable but actual live ammo loaded in a gun on the set?? Someone needs to answer this question.
I've been the 'range officer' on several occasions when inexperienced people were handling firearms so I know procedures and safeguards but this whole scenario is suspicious.
Yes, there is no reason for a live cartridge to be on a movie set.
It wouldn't seem to apply unless the prop gal had an inkling that Baldwin was going to point the gun at someone and pull the trigger. It applies to scenarios like holding the driver of a getaway car guilty of a bank robbery if they were a party to the planning, and, for example, not to a taxi driver that's clueless he's driving a bank robber.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
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Oh come on folks, we all know it was the guns fault!
Right Riger4me . How long before I read that the firearm mfgr is being sued too?
Not your theory.... In fact I would not be surprised if Baldwin Sues the armorer for giving him a gun that was not as described... Cold Gun.
Of course it's not my theory. I never claimed it was. If Baldwin sues based on that he will lose. That's ludicrous.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I thought the director gave him the pistol and said it was cold??????
That is funny. However he was the actor and given the gun to perform his action to practice. Whomever loaded that gun for him is responsible and caused him mental anguish the rest of his life. That lawsuit would include him possibly not ever being able to perform acting which would include his income the rest of his lifetime.
I have to disagree, actors I would guess almost all of them have limited to NO knowledge of firearms, the reason an armorer is on the set is to be the responsible party. If an actor is given a prop knife to stab someone with and it turns out it either didn't work correctly or wasn't the correct prop is that the actors fault? Lets go a step farther is the Doctor who gave you an injection of a rushed vaccine guilty if it turns out to be bad stuff?
To answer your questions:
1) yes
2) yes
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Having worked on an actual film set as an armorer (All for Liberty) I can tell you when an actor is handed a firearm and told it is cold he fully assumes it is. Sort of like a kid in boot camp being handed a grenade and told it is cold to toss it. We will just have to disagree on this, but I find regardless of personal preferences for Baldwin he isn't guilty of anything. The armorer is fully responsible and the assistant director who handled the gun with or without the Armorers OK is also guilty.
My .02 won't change.
i am with you Mogley, the fault is with the Bimbo armorer, and with the assistant director. And it is those two who will get criminal indictment.
Made someone mad...disagree
I agree.
I've never been on a movie set, but I have two decades worth of media news and studio sets experience (as a media spokesman). There, the hierarchy is very rigid. Nobody but you can even touch your job, and no matter what happens, the "star" is never at fault. Union rules control everything.
Example: if a cameraman needs to change position to a new angle, but there's a mic cable on the floor in the way, the cameraman MUST call an electrician to move that cable, even a few inches. If he were to simply move it aside with his foot, there'd be hell to pay, all work would stop, and a grievance filed.
As someone who has also worked on set as an armorer I agree completely. I know we will rack up the anonymous "disagrees" but some people on here act like the actor was out deer hunting with his family instead of on a studio set. There are different rules for gun handling.
Over the 3 days of being on set for the gun/shooting scenes I don't think a single actor even looked at the rounds being loaded, mostly because myself, the stunt coordinator and 1st AD had them all ready. Think there was roughly 300rds expended in those three days. The main character was a Broadway actress from NYC, she had never fired a gun before, we had to get her to look convincing even holding it, I bet if she had shot someone knowing her backstory everyone would be calling for my head instead of hers.
I’m pretty sure the law books don’t mention the terms “armorer” “assistant director” “prop gun”, etc.
More like “accused” “victim “ “perpetrator “ “accomplice “…
No, I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I have to agree with the folks that have been armorers for movie production.
For a crime to take place, you must have 2 elements- that act, and the INTENT to perform that act. Going to be very hard to show that Baldwin intended to shoot anyone when weapons were to be under control of a licensed armorer.
From what I have gathered, the armorer had been undercut by the asst. director. OTOH, I am 2500 miles away, not an attorney, and did not stay at a Holliday Inn last night.
l respectfully disagree. lf anyone puts any type tool (gun-wrench-flashlight) l 'm gohing to check it out before l try and use
it. lf l dont know how to use this item or tool l am going to find someone or information on how to use it. To quote Mr Ripley.
'Believe it or not' - l read the owners manual on items i purchase. lf l hurt you or anyone else with a tool or itim l'm using,
IT'S MY FAULT😲