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Questions For Experienced Gun Broker Sellers On PPT and FFL License

antiglockguyantiglockguy Member Posts: 16
edited March 2022 in Ask the Experts

Recently, a buyer won my gun on Gunbroker, but I have two questions I want to straighten out. The buyer's FFL does not want to show me his signed license because I'm a non- license seller, but insists I send a copy of my drivers license through email. Should I just ask the buyer to find an alternative FFL to ship the box? Second, Instead of sending to an FFL shop, we can meet up at a convenient shop that will do the PPT, and no paying for shipping. I can skip the shipping fees and he just pays the DROS and sales tax, do I need to confirm this with Gunbroker? I know I cannot mention he is buying it from me in the shop so I will do the money exchange outside. Any advice helps, thank you.

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  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭

    I will not send a copy of my FFL to an induvial either. Go to EZ Check and you will see what you need to check the dealer's FFL on line. The dealer should be willing to give you the numbers you need to confirm that he is a FFL dealer. Yes send him a copy of your DL so that he can enter the gun in his log when he receives it. Yes you could probably meet the buyer at a FFL dealer and have the dealer do the transfer in person. Get a receipt from the dealer.

  • mark christianmark christian Member Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭

    By statute, a licensee (dealer) is not required to send a sighed copy of his FFL to a non licensee. Instead he should send you the FFL number which you will then run through the ATF EZ-Check system, which was developed for this exact purpose.

    Only licensees (those of us who hold FFLs) are required to exchange signed copies of FFLs. We (dealers) cannot use the EZ-Check system.

  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭

    just to note " We (dealers) cannot use the EZ-Check system."...........while not using this for the transfer a dealer can use it to confirm the ffl is valid (not photo shopped)

  • antiglockguyantiglockguy Member Posts: 16

    Mark, Ric, and Mike, thanks for your replies, I'm asking because Gun Broker usually ask for a signed copy of the FFL license, just a pic of it from the buyers end. He did provide me his FFL license number and it checks out on EZ Check. His package should be good to go, right?

  • Ruger4meRuger4me Member, Moderator Posts: 3,823 ******
  • antiglockguyantiglockguy Member Posts: 16

    Cool, thanks again guys.

  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,889 ✭✭✭✭

    GB is just a listing service, like the classified ads in your local newspaper. As long as your transaction is legal & they get paid the correct amount, they won't get involved. As the seller YOU are on the hook for sales tax, so be sure that you get paid for that by the buyer.

    I recommend that you never do a FTF (face to face) firearms sale, unless the buyer is related to you by blood & lives in the same house. If you use the services of the local dealer, he will run a background check; just because the buyer wears nice clothes & speaks well doesn't mean that he's not a mass murderer. Your LGS will get paid by the buyer for his services, let him earn his fee.

    Neal

  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭

    DROS and PPT = California sale, yes? Assuming each of you is a CA resident with CA ID, FSC card, etc - yes, you can meet up and do the CA version (Private Party Transfer) of a private sale via an FFL dealer.

    FWIW, dealing with the receiving FFL and his requirements is the buyer's issue to address, not the seller's. Unless the seller has chosen the FFL. The buyer should have gone to their FFL first to learn, without ambiguity, the FFL dealer's requirements such as you sending an ID.

    Quite frankly, I'd be a bit concerned dealing with the individual on a PPT. You don't want to drive 100 miles to have them no show, not have paperwork lined up or screw around with payment.

  • antiglockguyantiglockguy Member Posts: 16

    Thanks dfletcher, I'm to on the fence about doing PPT in person, that's why I would ship it to the FFL. Another question for you guys, I have notice FedEx stopped shipping guns from non license sellers, what is the alternative way to ship a gun to a FFL from a non license seller? Its been last year since I shipped guns, the last time I did it was in July 2021.

  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭

    " what is the alternative way to ship a gun to a FFL from a non license seller?"..........a 'long gun' can be shipped usps

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