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  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,159 ******

    I believe, like the battleship, the tank has outlived it usefulness.

  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭

    Like shooting fish in a barrel with those missiles.

  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭

    They ambushed a bunch of them in this video. I'd hate to be assigned to a tank. The American Javelin missile that we've given them is tearing them up. The Russian's have bombed a maternity and children hospital. Now that's getting pretty chicken $%&*).


  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,159 ******
  • ROY222ROY222 Member Posts: 548 ✭✭✭

    I think the Russians may need to send in some infantry first to protect the tanks.

    They are sitting ducks by themselves.

  • Bubba Jr.Bubba Jr. Member Posts: 8,304 ✭✭✭✭

    I've seen where some farmers have taken abandoned tanks and are going to use them on the farm. I suppose they are going to drag equipment with them.

    Joe

  • varianvarian Member Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭✭

    while in the Air Force i had guy assigned to me as a instructor, he was former army. ask him about what his army job was, he said i was a tank commander. sounded like an interesting job so i ask him why he left. he said i say a film on what an A-10 could do to a tank, enough said.

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭

    You have to have Infantry and Anti Air with your Armor if you want them to do what they are supposed to do.

    RLTW

  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭

    Army associates of mine tell me those Russian tankers have done almost nothing right, according to well-known tank doctrine. They've stuck to paved roads, in single file. Worse, they've run out of gas and their crews have simply walked away from their tanks, leaving the roads blocked and their tanks as defenseless targets.

    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭

    Even our Abram's couldn't fend for themselves against those missiles the way the Russian's are going about it. You'd think common sense would tell you not to go driving down the highway like that. The Ukrainians know they're coming and have all kinds of time to set up ambushes. That would be so easy it's got to be fun for the young Ukrainian soldiers. If you listen to some of the videos they're laughing and hooting and hollering every time they take out one of those sitting ducks.

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭

    You would think they'd have drone overflights to spot the ambushes and fire on them from long distance. Methinks their intelligence and training leaves a bit to be desired. Bob

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,159 ******

    Hitler must be down there in he'll, laughing his butt off.

  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭

    You read my mind. I was thinking the same thing. If anybody knew how to Blitzkrieg it was him. He just got a little to cocky and took on the whole world at the same time.

  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭

    Nah. Adolph was a military dolt. His generals were excellent, though. When he took their advice, things went well. When he issued orders of his own, they did not.

    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2022

    Yeah that's true but when he took the chance on one of his Generals, General Heinz Guderian, that gave him the idea to Blitzkrieg France he gambled and took the advice at the disapproval of the other Generals. Then by the time the Blitzkrieg was going so well on the Barbarossa invasion in Russia everyone began believing he was a military genius. The world owes a lot to his Doctor feel good, Dr. Morell, that kept him doped up until he was ignoring everyone and making his own decisions.

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭

    Yep: Been that way for several decades now. One infantryman can now take out a column of tanks. Whoever said they keep building weapons to fight the last war was spot on.

  • rhythm_guyrhythm_guy Member Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭

    Not a military guy, so this is a totally uneducated observation.

    Is it possible that the radicals who want to destroy the US have exaggerated the Red Army into some kind of super fighting force so we would be more afraid of an external threat and ignore their efforts to take us down from within? Russian military is obviously not as advertised.

  • notnownotnow Member Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭

    You have to remember what Stalin said. Something along the lines of " Quantity is quality. " I'm thinking vlad could send a couple million in and not even touch his total capacity.

  • Wild TurkeyWild Turkey Member Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭✭

    Back in the cold war days there was a film of a Russian exercise showing their tanks crossing a river "from the march" which means no preparation. For us a river crossing was a two or three day exercise.

    Since there were rivers every 30 or so kilometers this was a big problem. Lot of thinking and testing and spending of money to improve our capabilities.

    Then we got the "straight story" on those crossings -- the tanks were crewed by officers and the bottoms of the "rivers" were paved. Whole thing was "misinformation".

    Wonder how much of what we thought we knew about the new tanks was also "misinformation"🙄

  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭✭

    I guess the Russians never noticed that in Iraqu I we were taking out tank after tank that was hidden behind the next sand dune. Tanks were great in WWII. Then came helicopters, drones, missiles, heat seeking, etc.

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