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A Supreme Court justice’s solution to gun violence: Repeal Second Amendment

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2022 in Politics

Rest assured The NWO people exactly wants this to happen. They think you cannot have world peace with the average citizens being responsible with their own firearms but nor can you stop an invading army without small arms possession of the greater population willing to fight. I think they believe both to be historically correct.

Since all governments are not infallible and with that absolute power it corrupts them absolutely. Regardless of party affiliations. Just like them blowing up innocence people and calling it collateral damage. Just look at Putin for recent references.

serf

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-supreme-court-justice-e2-80-99s-solution-to-gun-violence-repeal-second-amendment/ar-AAXPhQV

John Paul Stevens, a moderate Republican and former antitrust lawyer from Chicago who evolved into a savvy and sometimes passionate leader of the Supreme Court’s liberal wing and became the third-longest-serving justice on the court before he retired in 2010, died July 16 2019 at a hospital in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was 99.

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The 1993 constitution declares Russia a democratic, federative, law-based state with a republican form of government. State power is divided among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches.

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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭✭

    Repealing the 2nd amendment will never happen, at least for the foreseeable future. Reaching the threshold of 2/3 of both houses and 3/4 of all the states needed to repeal it is unlikely. It is more likely that restrictions will be put in place governing what weapons are legal. For those that cry that approach would be unconstitutional, consider all of the legal precedents like the control of automatic weapons, suppressors, and the implementation of the gun control act in 1968. Do you remember the 10 year ban of civilian "assault weapon" sales? No matter that the ban was allowed to expire because it proved totally ineffective, they will not learn from that and will try again. Then there is the removal of the protection against liability lawsuits when a legal, non-defective product is used for nefarious acts. The anti-gun cult members have many tools at their disposal and needn't worry about changing that pesky ol' constitution. The supposed NWO has nothing to do with it. It is just crooked politicians trying to maintain their jobs/power through capitalizing on the emotions of the gullible. These same politicians would fight the supposed NWO tooth and nail before relinquishing any of that power. Of course the pro-gun politicians would do the same so a NWO takeover is nothing but a myth. Entertaining - yes, worrisome - no. Bob

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    wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2022

    Typical, always attack the "how" and never even attempt to figure out the "why".

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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭

    Sure Bob, that's why the billionaires want to track your carbon foot print and make you think it's your idea and choice to be a responsible citizen in The 21st century and be tracked with your Central Bank Digital Currency 24/7 with quota's of what and how many of anything you can buy under your Digital social score just like in Red China has in place now for their credit/debit card system.

    Now so as far as getting States to ratify a new constitution,that is starting to work already with all the legal and illegal immigration coming in and teaching The critical race theory of white men forming The constitution & Bill of Rights for domination over other races & sexes in founding the republic and that needs to be modified for equity for all.

    We after all push the Indians into reservations and enslave poor black Africans and use the doctrine of manifest destiny as our cause of righteousness in our domination of settlements and then using all the resources of all the land in The USA,right?

    Let's see,you had to own land,be a freeman and I suppose a non felon to vote back then right? All of that is discriminatory actions now and the right to keep and bears arms is just another anarchic tool that must be removed in order to preserve the peace with utopian polices of enforcement of a new profound reasoning of all rights and privileges one may have or enjoy to practice in The NWO society now.

    serf

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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭✭
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    Wow! Is your glass ever half full?

    Over the course of history there have always been some that were wildly more successful than others. Intelligence, hard work and even just plain luck have all been factors in their success. For as long as there have been successful people, others have chosen to demonize them to make up for their own lack of success. After all it is so much easier to blame others instead of accepting responsibility for how your own life turns out. The jealous have spread rumors about the evil rich people since day one.

    Sometimes the reason the billionaires are successful is that they may be smarter than the average guy. This scares the average guy and he makes up conspiracy theories or exaggerates the billionaires actions to get more people to jump on the bandwagon. After all misery loves company. Do billionaires use their resources to influence politics? Of course they do, but no different than you would do if you had their resources.

    Your fear of a utopian agenda blinds you to the fact that if that happens there will be no more billionaires, because that wouldn't be fair so wealth must be redistributed. No need for powerful politicians, no need for industry leaders, no need for banks because we will all have the same. No need for wall street because you won't need investments because your NWO will supply all your needs. Do you really believe it is the goal of the billionaires and politicians and industry leaders to relinquish their wealth and power? Sounds like a fantasy to me and utopia is just a pipe dream, never to be achieved. Bob


    Edit; I forgot to give you the example of Elon Musk paying an estimated 11 billion dollars in taxes for 2021. If you have been paying attention he has been attacking the wealth redistributing liberal democrats, like Bernie and AOC. Also now that he has some skin in the game he has announced he will be voting republican. The richest guy in the world is anti liberal and is buying Twitter to stop the one sided liberal propaganda. Count him as one who won't be a proponent of your utopian policies.

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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,484 ✭✭✭✭

    Stevens is Constitutionally correct, of course. Congressional destruction of the 2nd cannot be permitted.

    it has to be done in an Aeticle 5 Convention.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭

    Your quite right a lot of those billionaires are crying after losing their super yachts right about now and can't go to Monaco this year becauseThe NWO sanction their ill gotten gains. Putin knew he could control a lot wheat and Hydrocarbons and he is to sure start another world war just so that they could not be the one's in Charge. 😁 Maybe A,I. that makind creates will be their master in the end, all knowing and seeing entity on top that pyramid on the one dollar bill?

    There is your utopia/dystopian future laying in ashes because of greed and power. There is your pipe dream of mankind who are smarter and has more intelligence too! Nuclear bombs even scare the super-rich to live like rats in their bomb shelters if they must to endeavor to preserve! what a life it's sure to be after the Nuclear winter that is!

    serf

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    wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭

    And for that reason it'll never happen. Even if they could convene a Constitutional convention you would never get 2 thirds of the house and senate and 3 quarters of the states to agree.

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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭✭
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    Obviously, you missed the point where I said that striving for a utopia is nothing but a pipe dream. You actually gave a good example backing up my thoughts by bringing up a crooked politician, (Putin), who would never give up his power to join in a world wide Kume Ba Yah civilization. On a smaller scale, you haven't answered my question about which politicians or billionaires will give up their power or wealth here in the U.S.? Therein lies the rub.

    We complain and moan about the crooked, stupid, power hungry politicians but who better to represent their ignorant constituents? I've said for the last couple of decades - In a country this big, those are the best candidates we can find?

    They may try to chip away at the 2nd amendment but it will never be repealed. Both sides would lose to many advantages if it was repealed. The left would no longer scare their voters with the evil guns and promise to ban them if elected. The Right would no longer scare their voters with gun confiscation that they will promise to prevent to get elected. Guns are kind of the golden goose when it comes to generating votes. Bob

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    mac10mac10 Member Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭✭

    time to repeal the 5th

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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭

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    Our democracy here is not going to survive. The fiat money system is failing here and cannot deliver peace and prosperity anymore.We are over 125% GDP in borrowing monopoly money now. Of course the super-rich own physical things and can rebound after The Great reset but it will be less for them as we go through the bottle neck of Carbon free energy sources.

    It's so simple to see as the sheple wake up in the slaughter house of wars.famines,pestilence and immorality. Autocrats governments already have Constitutions,legislatures and judicial powers with one caveat, no right to bear arms against corrupt leaders.

    We are the only Nation left that does so the odds are against us.Half of the population is already to give this right up believe it or not. After ever mass shooting there will be a push until that right drops right off the cliff! Just Look at Australia and New Zealand for references,

    serf

    https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-economy-collapse-what-will-happen-how-to-prepare-3305690

    A U.S. economic collapse is unlikely. When necessary, the government can act quickly to avoid a total collapse.

    For example, the Federal Reserve can use its contractionary monetary tools to tame hyperinflation, or it can work with the Treasury to provide liquidity, as during the 2008 financial crisis and COVID-19 pandemic. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation insures banks, so there is little chance of a banking collapse similar to that in the 1930s.


    The president can release Strategic Oil Reserves to offset an oil embargo. Homeland Security can address a cyber threat. The U.S. military can respond to a terrorist attack, transportation stoppage, or rioting and civic unrest. In other words, the federal government has many tools and resources to prevent an economic collapse. 

    What Would Happen If the US Economy Were To Collapse?

    If the U.S. economy were to collapse, you would likely lose access to credit. Banks would close. Demand would outstrip supply of food, gas, and other necessities. If the collapse affected local governments and utilities, then water and electricity might no longer be available.

    A U.S. economic collapse would create global panic. Demand for the dollar and U.S. Treasurys would plummet. Interest rates would skyrocket. Investors would rush to other currencies, such as the yuan, euro, or even gold. It would create not just inflation, but hyperinflation, as the dollar would lose value to other currencies.

    If you want to understand what life would look like during an economic collapse, think back to the Great Depression. The stock market crashed on Black Thursday.3 By the following Tuesday, it was down 25%. Many investors lost their life savings that weekend. 

    By 1932, one out of four Americans was unemployed.4 Wages for those who still had jobs fell precipitously—manufacturing wages dropped 32% from 1929 to 1932.5 U.S. gross domestic product was cut nearly in half. Thousands of farmers and other unemployed workers moved to California and elsewhere in search of work. Two-and-a-half million people left the Midwestern Dust Bowl states.6 The Dow Jones Industrial Average didn't rebound to its pre-Crash level until 1954.7


    Collapse Versus Crisis

    An economic crisis is not the same as an economic collapse. As painful as it was, the 2008 financial crisis was not a collapse. Millions of people lost jobs and homes, but basic services were still provided.

    Other past financial crises seemed like a collapse at the time, but are barely remembered now. 

    1970s Stagflation

    The OPEC oil embargo and President Richard Nixon’s abolishment of the gold standard triggered double-digit inflation. The government responded to this economic downturn by freezing wages and labor rates to curb inflation.8 The result was a high unemployment rate. Businesses, hampered by low prices, could not afford to keep workers at unprofitable wage rates.9

    1981 Recession

    In 1981, the Fed raised interest rates in a bid to end double-digit inflation.10 That created the worst recession since the Great Depression. President Ronald Reagan cut taxes and increased government spending to end it.11

    1989 Savings and Loan Crisis

    One thousand banks closed after improper real estate investments turned sour. Charles Keating and other Savings & Loan bankers had mis-used bank depositor’s funds.12 The consequent recession triggered an unemployment rate as high as 7.5%.13 The government was forced to bail out some banks to the tune of $124 billion.14

    Post-9/11 Recession

    The terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, sowed nationwide apprehension and prolonged the 2001 recession—and unemployment of greater than 10%—through 2003.15 The United States’ response, the War on Terror, has cost the nation $6.4 trillion and counting.16

    2008 Financial Crisis

    The early warning signs of the 2008 Financial Crisis were rapidly falling housing prices and increasing mortgage defaults in 2006.17 Left untended, the resulting subprime mortgage crisis, which panicked investors and led to massive bank withdrawals, spread like wildfire across the financial community.18 The U.S. government had no choice but to bail out “too big to fail” banks and insurance companies, like Bear Stearns and AIG, or face both national and global financial catastrophes.19

    March 2020: COVID-19 Pandemic

    It is too soon to tally up the total costs of the COVID-19 pandemic—the crisis is still ongoing, although with far less intensity than in the early days.

    How much economic cost should we expect? One estimate, from IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva, proposed the global economy will lose $28 trillion in economic output from 2020 to 2025.20 As the U.S. economy seeks to recover from the challenges brought about by the pandemic, including heightened inflation, supply-chain disruptions, and labor market turmoil, government action will be a vital tool in moving forward.

    Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

    How can I prepare for an economic collapse?

    A true economic collapse won't happen, because measures would be taken by the U.S. government to avoid one just as it has done in the past. Still, you can prepare for a financial crisis by ensuring your debt is low, living within your means, and having money in savings that you can have fast access to if you need it. While no investment portfolio is recession-proof, you can talk to your financial advisor about minimizing risk with your investments.

    Are any countries in danger of an economy collapse?

    The International Monetary Fund recently warned that some poor nations (including Ethiopia, Kenya, Zambia, Afghanistan, Haiti, Samoa, and Tonga) could be in danger of financial collapse unless the countries they owe money to continue to offer debt relief.21

    Can any good come from an economic collapse?

    While it's hard to see any silver lining in a total collapse, some benefits have been seen in past recessions. During the Great Depression, for example, life expectancies actually increased. The cost of housing may go down, enabling some people to buy a home that they may not have been able to afford before, and companies selling cheap entertainment can prosper.


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    BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭✭

    ?????

    You are worried about, and warning us of an imminent economic collapse and then post a link that says it won't happen.

    Stagflation and then a recession is more likely. Neither one will cause the suspension of either our democracy or the constitution, including the 2nd amendment.

    Financially it may be a bit painful the next couple of years but we have been through it before and survived. And yes of course many of the rich will suffer less than us common folk, but so what? Do you propose confiscating their wealth to make it a tiny bit easier on yourself? Right now there are plenty of people that probably don't have it as good as you. Should we take away your assets to give to them? Sounds like you have a combination of jealousy and a desire for socialism to me. Society will always have winners and losers, with the bulk of us somewhere in between. That system works because it provides the Incentive for innovation and the jobs needed to make capitalism succeed. Billionaires don't scare me, rather they inspire me and it should be that way for anyone trying to get ahead.

    To get back on topic, do you think a politician would take the chance of losing voters by proposing a constitutional change when the voters are already upset by our trying financial situation? A politicians biggest job, unfortunately, is to get re-elected and while they may pay a little lip service to gun control and even try implementing some restrictions they won't go all the way and risk losing votes. Remember, the dems and republicans are both minorities outnumbered by the independent voters. Tick off enough independents and swing them to the other party and suddenly a politician will find himself in the unemployment line.

    The difference between you and I is while we are both cynical, I am a realist and can find enough real problems without subscribing to theoretical ones. Bob

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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
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    Come on Bob social security is socialism already ! You pay in with taxes while the politicians steal the money out of the general funds and issue some monopoly treasury bonds for IOU's. When we have the crash and it hits the brick wall then it will be hell.

    it's all about who can climb to the apex of wealth pyramid while robbing the masses for what little they have. Robber Barons in new clothes don't change anything. The great reset with the new green deal is going to break America into The NWO cashless society with a police state of enforcement just like in Red China has now.

    Everyday it's only gets worst.People can't find housing or food now, while illegals run in with nothing and asking for welfare support so they can raise the debt ceiling higher and buy more votes for establishing a peaceful loving community.

    Fuel is skyrocketing while congress gives away billions in foreign aid and welfare then saying social security is going broke because there is not enough taxation to support It. It's all a sham and legalize theft by the system of our government.

    The inflation rate is going up while savings interest goes down and it's nothing but a casino game with all the little players going broke,

    I posted the article above to show you how stupid it is to think the system can contain their ponzi scheme they have unleashed on hard working tax paying blue collar workers with their forked tongues up there in D.C.

    serf

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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,784 ✭✭✭✭

    People need to realize "Gun Violence" is a Bull Sh*t" term and false narrative created by DEMOCRATs, 2A haters along with main stream media and other sycophants and propagandists.


    The intention of all these propagandists and ideologues is make the term "violence" and "gun" synonymous or one and the same. I for one am NOT buying into this narrative.

    Violence is the use of force to abuse, injure, damage, or destroy. Contrary to DEMOCRAT groupthink acts of abuse, injury, destruction, and damage do not mandate use of a firearm.

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    Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭

    all I can add the left is trying hard to get a war going be around the world or here at home by shoveling there crap by the truck loads at good people none of which would end well for any of us

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