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Would you walk into a store and.................

44pinshooter44pinshooter Member Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭

.............starting ripping on the sales staff?

In the past week, we have had several individuals come into the store, which is a full line True Value Hardware and Just Ask Rental, come over to the sporting goods department and go off on rants about the store selling "murder guns", "evil guns" and that no real sportsman needs an AR-15, they are just made for killing people.

One woman called me a "merchant of death". One man was yelling at one of the store owners, that he will never step foot in the store again.

I have owned, built and shot AR-15's since I got my first one in 1991. Should have seen the faces on some of the guy's way back, when I showed up at a steel plate match at the club with a flat-top AR. Back then, you'd cut off the carry handle and take a chunk of Weaver style scope base stock and a set of high scope rings. At that time, my workshop was in a corner of the old dairy barn, and someone started calling my AR a "barn build".

I've burned the throat out of one of my AR's, trying to clear South Dakota of prairie dogs. Have one that is the "kitchen rifle", it has accounted for 4 coyotes. The kitchen windows face the barn and garden. Was making coffee one morning and saw a 'yote looking for a hole in the horse pasture fence, the "kitchen rifle" did it's job and I finished making my coffee.

I'd guess that I've burned up a box car or two of .223 and 5.56 over the years. Not one round of those rounds was fired in a "murderous rage" .

At no time, have any of my AR's ever gotten up and done any evil. They just sit in the safe or in the corner of the kitchen. Maybe my AR's are different.

Well, I could go on and on but, I have to go and order a bolt/carrier and a stock to go on the new prairie dog AR. Hardest thing to do today is, do I put the Leupold 4 X 14 or the 6.5 X 20 on the new rifle?

Comments

  • tnrangertnranger Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if any one of your guns has ever gotten down off the rack, loaded itself and shot anybody. ,,,and you're obviously in a high traffic area so they've had plenty of opportunity. You might point that out, but that's not what they want to hear.

  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭

    Folks is crazy, Pinshooter. The cup of ignorance seems to be overflowing everywhere.

    "do I put the Leupold 4 X 14 or the 6.5 X 20 on the new rifle?"

    In answer to this question, use the 6.5x20 and send the 4x14 to me!

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like a few people need to be issued a NO TRESSPASS warning! Have em removed if/when they come back.

    You can't fix stupid!

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,734 ******

    And you just cannot reason with these people at ALL!! Their mindset is locked and they never had a key to begin with!


    My youngest son works at a gas station\convenience store. He gets blamed for the gas prices several times a day and has been spit on and has been hit with flying loose change from disgruntled customers! I swear there are a lot of people going off the deep end.

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,159 ******

    I talked to a licensed gun dealer just yesterday who was set up this past weekend at a huge local flea market. He said a guy came by and pointed at an AR ranted about AR's being nothing but child killing guns.

  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭

    Sadly, you are preaching to a dwindling choir here. The time for any chance of reasoned discussion has passed. Basically, ARs and rifles like them have become as Jed Cooper to a media-fed angry mob. There is no more talking about it; you cannot defeat emotion with logic, quell rage with calm presentation of facts. And in this case, if and when the truth does come out, it will be too late. The only option is for politicians representing our interests to be as intractable and strident as those who would oppose us. And even if they are successful, it will only increase the anger and resentment of our opposers and the divisiveness in our country.

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,449 ✭✭✭✭

    Just simply say to the next folks that raise their voice against the AR's or anything else...you know as a licensed dealer I can refuse a sale..especially someone like you.

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    The people with more emotions than facts ruin a lot of things in this country. It's to the point where their leaders use their support as leverage to work their evil plots.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2022

    I don’t know what I would have said to the lady, but it some how reminds me of a story I heard about Winston Churchill.

    Winston Churchill was at a hotel in London an had been drinking. He was introduced to a woman and the woman upon smelling the alcohol on Churchills breath said, “ Sir you are drunk”. ——Upon hearing this Churchill said to the woman, in typical Winston Churchill style, . “ And madam you are ugly, but tomorrow I will be sober, but you will still be ugly”.

    Maybe you could have said. Madam you are ugly, but by tomorrow this AR will be sold, and you won’t have to look at it anymore, but we will still have to look at you.

  • Anti KueAnti Kue Member Posts: 210 ✭✭✭

    Cars kill more people than guns. So you need to ask them if they are going to leave the store, get in their "Death Wagon" and kill people on the way home?


    Of course it will go totally over their head.

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭


    Hard to go in any store without hearing people complain and not about guns but how prices have gone up considerably.

  • US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭✭

    "One man was yelling at one of the store owners, that he will never step foot in the store again."

    Option 1 (never been in the store "customer") - I'm sorry. I don't know who your are. Have you ever been in this store before now?

    Option 2 (existing customer) - I am so sorry to hear that. I will close your charge account immediately. Thank you for being a customer. I hope you can find another store to satisfy your needs.

    Option 3 (just to be a smart *** and assuming they are an otherwise healthy individual) - Our policy is to put both feet in the store and not enter the store with only one foot. If you only put one foot in the door, we will assume you intend to block the door and will ask you to leave.

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,879 ✭✭✭✭

    Embolden fools. Talking trash at people with guns. I wonder if people would roll up to Mike Tyson and start mocking his way of speaking? When they need the guys with guns, I hope the they will stop and get donuts and coffee first.

  • Sparty_76Sparty_76 Member Posts: 714 ✭✭

    I am very sorry about that! I own many guns and believe in the Second Amendment . Although on this forum I am a minority as I have no problem with gun regulations that protect us all! The Second Amendment was written in the 1780s. Should an 18-year old unstable kid or one that is a devout racist go in buy AR-15s merely because of something written when they had flintlocks? I am a grandfather of 5 kids that go to public school, and the father of a kindergarten teacher. I hate the thought of guns in school! Really?

    I assist with Mass at Church and it is a truly sad day when we have to consider locking the doors, for fear some nut will walk in with a gun! We need to really listen to each other and be willing to compromise and come together!

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,393 ✭✭✭✭

    you hit the nail on the head when you said ,,, UNSTABLE, but that is a word they don't want to hear and surely will never bring back the mental institutions for those people..... but it is still no reason to penalize the rest of us honest folks because they want the crazy ones walking the streets.

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    The gun grabbing Fudds don't care about the rights of the law abiding. They just want to "do something" our rights away because of some self loathing, self hatred that comes with being the betas they are. They already "have all the guns they need" and never mind about the next generation that's still trying to arm themselves in an increasingly dangerous world.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • tomh.tomh. Member Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭✭

    Some unstable people just can't be fixed with a pill. Especially one that is their responsibility to take.

  • tomh.tomh. Member Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭✭

    The list of places I've chosen never to return to is fairly long. And I'm content to leave it at that.

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2022

    The owner has the RIGHT to refuse anyone, esp if he/she thinks they are unstable. Please tell us how raising the age to 21 will stop anything! Sandy hook was done by a CRAZY person that killed his mom and took HER gun. The latest crazy attempted to kill his granny.

    By your 1780s referrence, then a LOT of rights would not apply now! Everyone here beleives that common sense laws are ALREADY on the books. Apparently the CRIMANLS simply do NOT follow laws. Murder is illegal and carries the DEATH penalty. What penalty would you impose on an 18 y/o that has an AR(assuming they raise the age to 21). Will the penalty be worse than death?

    Mental health is THE issue. Not sure how to solve it.....BUT holding the communist media accountable for their 24/7 hate fueled rants AND opening mental health facilities would be a good start.

    Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun!

    Lets not forget how many innocents are killed by drunk drivers! Maybe we should ban all vehicles. How many TEENS die each year in automobiles? Lets raise the driving age to 21 too!?

  • wetnapwetnap Member Posts: 86 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2022

    The problem is they define a devout racist as anyone who votes for Trump and they define normal as a man who wears woman’s clothes. Just by wanting a gun they will call you mentally unstable.

  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******

    A "LICENSED GUN DEALER" at a "FLEA MARKET???" Wow.

    Last I heard, a FFL dealer can transfer firearms at his "licensed premises," or at a bona fide gun show. A flea market is not a gun show.

    Flea markets, around here anyway, have a reputation for being great places to pick up stolen firearms with no questions asked.

  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭

    Only thing I can say about this is those people are very very lucky, in fact I would say extremely lucky, they don't run across somebody like me at this point in my life. I have nothing really left to live for and I can guarantee the end results are not going to be pretty. You just don't get into people's faces that you don't know or do know for that matter and accuse them and threaten them over things you know absolutely nothing about. Some people may be just having a bad day but some of us have been having a bad decade and there's a whole hell of a lot of different when you open up that can of worms!

  • fatcat458fatcat458 Member Posts: 428 ✭✭✭
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