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FBI confirms what we already knew about Alec Baldwin

claysclays Member Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭✭

FBI forensic report concludes Alec Baldwin pulled trigger on 'Rust' set: 

FBI forensic report concludes Alec Baldwin pulled trigger on 'Rust' set: report | Fox News

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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,619 ✭✭✭✭

    Look at an interview with the DA in charge from 6 months ago.

    Updated Feb 21, 2022, 10:58am EST

    TOPLINE Santa Fe County District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies, who is overseeing the investigation into Rust shooting involving actor Alec Baldwin, told Vanity Fair Friday that her team found it was possible for a gun like the one in Baldwin’s hand to fire without pulling the trigger, potentially adding credibility to a claim he made about the shooting that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. 

    KEY FACTS

    While awaiting FBI analysis of the weapon Baldwin used, which will determine its functionality and how it could have fired, Carmack-Altwies said she and two investigators performed an “unofficial test” using a “very old type revolver” that one of her teammates owned. 

    Carmack-Altwies will ultimately be the one who decides whether to bring charges in the death of Hutchins; in a somewhat unusual move for an open investigation, she spoke about the case for a long feature in Vanity Fair that also included interviews with those who were involved with the production.

    Carmack-Altwies said investigators on her team showed her how “you can pull the hammer back without actually pulling the trigger and without actually locking it,” mirroring what Baldwin said he did with the gun.

    If the gun is pulled back “partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet,” and fire it, Carmack-Altwies said. 

    The DA said she won’t know for several months if she will file criminal charges related to the shooting, though she said it’s clear that Hutchins’ death was not caused by one actor, but by a chain of mistakes and failures.



  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,158 ******

    Regardless, she died at his hand.

  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭✭

    Why does it matter if he fired the gun by pulling the trigger, or by slipping the hammer? Either way, he was being careless. He never checked the gun when it was handed to him. Then he had it pointed at another person. Then he caused it to fire and kill someone. If anyone other than a celebrity, or a Democrat, had done all that it would have been case closed, go to jail.

  • Texas1911DETexas1911DE Member Posts: 684 ✭✭✭✭

    ...Hes a scumbag liar...

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭

    Yea, and Biden should step down. BUT neither of those will EVER happen on their own. Now hopefully BOTH will be forced to do the right thing soon!

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,448 ✭✭✭✭

    I wasn't there. And I highly doubt anyone on this forum was.... The hammer could have slipped off of his thumb while cocking...



    If the gun is pulled back “partway, it doesn’t lock, and then if you let it go, the firing pin can hit the primer of the bullet,” and fire it, Carmack-Altwies said.

  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2022

    I don't see what difference it makes if he pulled the trigger or let the hammer slip or not? Wasn't he supposed to shoot who ever it was during this rehearsal scene? I really doubt he went out there with the intention of killing someone in front of all the witnesses on purpose. It was supposed to have blanks in it. Who ever put the real ammo in it is the one they need to be after whether it's Baldwin or who ever. I really doubt Baldwin loaded the gun. I bet that flaming liberal wouldn't know how to load a gun. In fact they hire people to take care of the guns. That person is the one that's guilty of someone getting shot in my worthless opinion.

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,448 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2022

    Uh... a Single action can fire if the hammer falls before locking the action cases of old ones SAA without transfer bars , Why do you think they only carry 5 in a 6 shot revolver. There is onea golden rule in handling firearms...NEVER point the weapon at someone or something you don't intend to shoot.

  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭✭

    In a movie it is common to point real guns (loaded with blanks, of course) at people and shoot them. Watch any violent show. Baldwin was just doing what he was paid to do.

    This event is not unprecedented. In 1993, Bruce Lee's son Brandon was killed during filming by a .44 Magnum which had a bullet lodged in the barrel. When a blank was fired the bullet flew out with enough velocity to kill the actor. The actor holding the gun was not charged. The film company was ruled to be at fault for failing to check the gun. They were sued by the dead actor's family and a settlement was reached out of court. I see no reason why this case should not follow precedent and the film company ruled to be negligent and a large cash settlement should follow.

  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,619 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2022

    I have that same pistol, Flli Pietta in .45. If you pull the hammer back half way and let go, it catches there. It will not fire unless you fully cock it and pull the trigger.


    Of course his shyster is claiming the gun is in "poor condition" implying that it is old and worn out. But lawyers get paid to lie.

    I agree that legally it is the fault of the armorer, and not Baldwin.

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,158 ******

    She died at his hand.

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,448 ✭✭✭✭

    Baldwin's lawyer called the FBI's findings "misconstrued," adding that the gun in question was in "poor condition," in a statement to NPR.


    Translation.... poor condition..

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,448 ✭✭✭✭

    Typical how some folks love to see the rich go down.

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,619 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2022

    nypost.com


    Alec Baldwin on Tuesday blasted the media for keeping up its coverage of the investigation into the shooting that killed “Rust” cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, as he doubled down on his denial that he pulled the trigger of the gun.

    In an appearance on the YouTube show “The Chris Cuomo Project,” the disgruntled actor singled out The Post while whining to host Chris Cuomo about the media not dropping the story of the deadly on-set shooting.

    “I used to think The Post was something cops would read for the sports page … but I was surprised to learn some of the people who read The Post,” Baldwin said in the episode that aired Tuesday.

    Baldwin and Cuomo, who was unceremoniously ousted at CNN last year, both bemoaned what they deemed unfair press coverage intent on taking them down.

    “[The media] have dined out on this and the thing they have in common is nobody was there,” Baldwin said.

    The conversation took a bizarre turn when Baldwin tried to illustrate what he believes is the media’s skewed perception of his actions.

    “If George Bush’s mother, Barbara, fell through the ice on a pond and I waded into the pond and saved her life, they’d say I groped her. They’d say I squeezed her breast while I was pulling her out of the pond,” Baldwin insisted.

    “It doesn’t matter what you do,” he said. “The ones that are out to get you are out to get you.”

    Baldwin pointed the finger at others on set.

    In the interview, Baldwin also denied that he pulled the trigger of the gun last fall on the New Mexico set, claiming that it discharged while he was practicing a technique called “fanning.”

    “If you pull the hammer back far enough … the hammer didn’t lock … it would fire the bullet without you pulling the trigger,” he said.

    Baldwin said a safety officer told him it was safe to do this since the weapon was “cold,” meaning it was not loaded with bullets.

    “Everyone on set knows what happened that day,” Baldwin insisted.

    “Everyone who was there knows exactly what happened and exactly who is to blame.”


    Alec explains "fanning" yesterday with Cuomo. 3 minute video. Skip ahead to 1 minute.


  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,158 ✭✭✭✭

    gun only goes bang with a finger pull of trigger

    only way other than a hammer blow or strike to the hammer sitting on a live round

    a snowball effect


    i blame the armor, which Baldwin hired, so its ultimately his fault

    Although always described as a cowboy, Roswellnative generally acts as a righter of wrongs or bodyguard of some sort, where he excels thanks to his resourcefulness and incredible gun prowesses.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,158 ******
    edited August 2022

    Who killed that young lady? Alec Baldwin, that's who. Show a little contrition.

  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,619 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2022


    Alec Baldwin hired private investigator after 'Rust' shooting, doesn't think he'll be criminally charged

    Taryn Ryder·Writer, Yahoo Entertainment

    Fri, August 19, 2022 at 1:15 PM·4 min

    Alec Baldwin doesn't believe he'll be criminally charged for Halyna Hutchins's death on the set of Rust.

    "I hired a private investigator," Baldwin told CNN, later adding that the last 10 months have "taken years off my life."

    Baldwin was rehearsing with the gun that killed Halyna on Oct. 21. A FBI forensic report released last week determined the .45 Colt could not have been fired without someone pulling the trigger. It also noted that 150 live rounds of ammunition were found on the set. Baldwin, who was a producer on the Western film, has repeatedly stated he never pulled the trigger. The actor reiterated to CNN that there are two people responsible for Halyna's death: assistant director Dave Halls, who handed him the gun and declared it "cold" meaning it had no live ammo, and Hannah Gutierrez Reed, who served as the armorer and props assistant on the film.

    "Why didn't [Gutierrez Reed] check that bullet? Why didn't Halls obey her?" Baldwin asked. "Why did he give me the gun? Why didn't he check? Why did he tell the crew [it was a cold gun]?"

    Based on the findings of Baldwin's private investigator, he doesn't believe anyone will be criminally charged. Santa Fe County prosecutors have not indicated which way their investigation is leaning.

    "I'm pretty confident neither one of them should ever work in a film set again," Baldwin said. "I sincerely believe ... [investigators are] going to say that this was an accident. It's tragic."

    The actor noted that he does not want to "condemn" Gutierrez Reed.

    "I mean maybe it's the Catholic in me," Baldwin explained. "I have an impulse to say, I don't want to see anybody suffer. I don't want to sit there and say you know, go get her and condemn her."

    Lawyers for Halls and Gutierrez Reed told the outlet Baldwin is trying to shift blame off of himself.

    Baldwin went on to reveal that he's lost five jobs in less than a year because of the accident.

    "I got fired from another job yesterday," he said. "There I was all set to go to a movie, jump on a plane ... I've been talking with these guys for months and they told me yesterday we don't want to do the film with you because of this."

    "There is just this torrent of people attacking me who don't know the facts," he stated. Baldwin credits his wife Hilaria, who is pregnant with the couple's seventh child, for being his rock through this all.

    "If I didn't have my wife, I don't know where I would be right now," he said. "If I didn't have her, I probably would have quit, retired, gone off, you know sold everything I owned, got a house in the middle of nowhere and just you know find something else to do, sell real estate."

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭

    He is a despicable human being.

    RLTW

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,877 ✭✭✭✭

    After killing those folks I keep hearing his "pod cast" ads on my local republican radio station. Since I thought he was a democRAT.

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