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Here is why Trump needs to shut up and go away.

bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭

Trump will soon be taking credit for the sun rising. If you are not kneeling at his feet with adoration you will be attacked. Even the slightest disagreement or Trump perceiving you as a possible threat gets you attacked personally.

Trump really needs to shut up. His rallies are filled with people that support him, that is fine, that is a good thing. However when he sees someone as even a minor threat he attacks first with claims Trump himself was instrumental in the persons success. His ego is out of control and he needs to throttle it way back to idle.



  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭
    edited November 13

    I would really like to see him put his power and financial weight behind a candidate that could win. I like DJT, but he needs to reign in his ego and put his money where it could do the most good, or we are liable to see Newsome as the next POTUS.

    Already it looks bad for this country with Dementia Joe behind the wheel for the next two years.

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 23,827 ******

    I have lost all respect for him with that comment. He must feel threatened by Youngkin. We need to move on.

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,482 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't think he will get the Republican nomination...however his ego will let him run independent and totally ruin the Republican win.

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭

    Yeah Trump needs to just stay out of it and let the people knaw on the bones that the Establishment throws them every once in a while.... kinda like that "Red Wave".... Huh..??

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭

    IMHO, Trump will get the nomination in 2024. He will also win, unless we get outvoted by the counters again.

    Then desantis will win the next two terms, at least I hope he does.

    NO ONE has ever pointed out ANY bad policies or outcomes due to President Trump. People got their feelings hurt and they can't handle it. No safe places in the real world.

    Trump was one of the BEST presidents in modern history. IF the commies didn't take EVERY opportunity to stifle his policies, this great country would have been a GREATER country.

    BUT the commies had to mess that up, thanks for the $5 gap gas, high interest, low food supply!


  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14

    The Rino's are getting behind Desantis...and so are the Democrats... they are scared to death of Trump and they will back Desantis until he gets nominated...then they will just pull another 2020 and put in Newsome most likely...go look up Ken Griffin... he's funding Desantis....

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭

    Mike55, Floyd 621

    Mike, you are 100% correct in pointing out there is little objection to the policies of Trump as POTUS. I have not been able to find a single TDS patient that can name a policy that was bad for them or America, not a single one. What he did during his term was remarkable and good for the nation. His ability to stand and fight against the (R) Elite, the (D) Marxists and the media was almost inhuman.

    The issue is, people do not give a crap about his policies or how well the policies worked for them and theirs. They hate the man. They hate his guts. They become animated and red faced in telling you how bad of a man Trump is. What they say may be twisted, off base, a lie or just made up like the Steel Russia collusion garbage. It does not matter, they hate him because they want to. There are millions of them and they do vote. If Trump runs they will vote even if they have to drag themselves to the polls by horse and buggy, they will vote against Trump no matter what the issues are. They hate him that bad.

    Floyd, The support for DeSantis is not because of the fear of Trump. It because they know Trump is a caustic substance. Again, he was probably the best POTUS since Ronny Reagan. That does not matter, it takes the unaligned, the unaffiliated the dummies the ignorant and the soccer moms in the middle to elect a President. We know the (D)'s are gonna vote (D). We also know we (R)'s will vote (R). The map of red counties in the USA is telling, most of the American land mass is (R). That does not matter at all in a POTUS election. DeSantis may not be the (R) man for the job in two years. We don't yet know what factors are going to be foremost in American's minds during the 2024 election. We won't know until late in 2024. It may well be Trump but until then he is losing supporters by the thousands lashing out at fellow (R)'s that won elections and he perceives as the threat of some nature.

    Unless Trump can temper his ego and stop attacking every windmill in sight he will not be electable. The nation is a very different place than it was in 2016. Also, Trump will be over 78 years old in 2024. People are becoming leery of the old guys, they are seeking new blood and by golly they will vote for new blood.

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭

    "Trump will be over 78 years old in 2024. People are becoming leery of the old guys, they are seeking new blood and by golly they will vote for new blood."

    AND YET the commies will STILL vote for Biden in 2024! Look who they elected in Pennsylvania 🤯

    Saying Trump shouldn't run because the commies won't vote for him is double speak, they won't vote for ANY conservative!

    Trump did an awesome job for this country, and the proof is in the numbers.

    I agree, the commies HATE him, but they also hate me and people who think like me! Like the trump meme said, (Trump speaking) "THEIR NOT AFTER ME, THEY ARE AFTER YOU......I'M JUST IN THEIR WAY!"

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14

    Biden won't run in 2024... Newsome will and he will win... they have turned the Republicans against each other and most people won't even vote because they know it's rigged... what I can't believe is how easy it was for them to turn people against the best president of my lifetime.. and I turn 59 tomorrow...the people of America will get what they deserve...and personally.. I'm not going to feel one bit sorry for them...

  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭✭

    Dems will vote dem and republicans will vote republican regardless of who is running for office, that is a given. The key to getting your candidate in office is having a palatable candidate that the independent voters can get behind. Trump has burned to many bridges to be that candidate. Sadly, getting elected in this country is a popularity contest and not based on competence. When I say that and someone argues the point, I just point at the current POTUS and say I rest my case. Bob

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭

    But it's not even a popularity contest anymore.

    Without diving into the cheating that I believe happened, and is still happening.........

    People vote based on their FEELINGS and not with their brains. Most people who actually voted FOR Biden, only did so because of their FEELINGS toward the other party!

    People have pure HATRED for those who voted for Pres Trump, SOLELY because they voted for him. Their hatred doesn't stop at Trump! The "inclusive" party is the most hateful and exclusive party that this country has EVER seen. Sad days we are living in. FJB

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,133 ✭✭✭✭

    Trump was a Covid coward and put into place and/or allowed the Federal pronouncements and that created the economic chaos we are living through today. The vast majority of his policies worked well. He failed on the big one because he wanted to be re-elected.

    He is a swamp creature very much like the rest.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭

    Exactly...if you support the Establishment.. you support the doesn't matter which side you're on...

  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭
    edited November 15

    I wouldn't mind DJT putting his support behind someone like Kari Lake. She's dynamic, attractive, and pro-2nd amendment. She might be able to beat that worm Newsome.

  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15

    The Democrats hate Trump so much by 2024 he will be convicted of something unless they Gamble on Trump splitting The Republican vote as independent candidate. I think both Biden and Trump are too old and senile to run The country and betting on A military government by then.

    If there is an election in 2024 and two political parties left then two unknowns will take the place of anyone we know right now.No baby boomers will be tapped to run in my opinion. They baby boomers had their day in the lime light and have run the country into bankruptcy and general Malaise of stupidity reelecting idiots into office over and over again.


  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,011 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15

    This tread, some of the responses, and the fact it exists on the GB forum is testimony to the effectiveness of the DEMOCRAT propaganda machine. Face up to it folks, we are losing in a big way and it is a matter of time before we lose most of our rights.

    No wonder Trump lost the last election and GOP failed to take the Senate, key governorships, and barely gained control of the House. GOP should have won big.

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭

    The Establishment... either damn just in it to get Rich...Screw The People... they don't matter... someone different comes along and tries to make things better and gets hated for it... just do a little research and see who is backing Desantis... when Obama donors are backing someone.. they are not who you think they are... the research...

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,011 ✭✭✭✭

    Boils down to the opposition and their propaganda machines picking GOPs nominees. Their propaganda has been so effective GOP ends up with weak nominees that cant win. DEMOCRATs have been gone so far as to pump money into GOP primaries supporting weak nominees that are not going to win a national election. Part of my point.

    BTW, I agree with your past posts,

  • Butchdog2Butchdog2 Member Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭✭

    I think Trump was one of the best presidents ever but his ship has sailed. time to move on.

    On another issue I was channel surfing Sunday morning an guess who pops up. Stefonoplulis or what ever his name is was interviewing Pewlosi. She said she had sworn to protect the constitution. I almost threw up before I hit the channel button.

  • SoreShoulderSoreShoulder Member Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭

    Trump's opponents for the Republican nomination ought to consider asking him to promise to stand aside if he doesn't get the nomination in order to keep from dividing the party and the vote.

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭

    Tump just announced!

    TRUMP 2024!!!



  • BobJudyBobJudy Member Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭✭

    Well that's going to guarantee a dem victory if he gets the nomination. I liked most of his administration's policies but there has to be a better republican candidate that isn't so disliked by the independent voters. Remember it takes them to get a president elected. Bob

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 16

    Nope...all they need is Dominion... Jesus could run and Biden would beat him.. it's who count's the votes that matters...and I would think that job pays very.. very.. well..

  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 22,338 ✭✭✭✭


    The 1st step is in play

    The Donald announced he is running

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭

    If Trump doesn't win.. America is done.. World War 3 will happen..and we will lose..the Elites will get on their jets and fly away to another country..and we will try to be learning Chinese and Russian..he is the only one who will fight for the people in this country.. better get behind the man or you are going to be wishing you did.. Wait and See . open your eyes..

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,011 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 16

    I for one wont buy into the BS narrative created by establishment DEMOCRATs and the media that Trump is dividing the Republican party.

    Who is dividing or attempting to divide the GOP is obvious: The one blaming Trump.

    Trump is greatly feared by the DEMOCRAT propaganda & hate machine because he can win. DEMOCRATs have been doing everything to destroy him and have weaponized the DOJ to participate in the attacks.

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 23,827 ******

    Democrats almost compelled him to run with all the lawsuits and commitees.

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,482 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 16

    He can't keep his mouth shut. Has more problems than anyone. Will not get the nomination. Most likely will run on the (Ego ) Arrogant Party and lose. Lose big time. Trump 3% Republicans 45% Dems 52% And he still will want a recount .

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭

    You guys need to listen to NPR more. Just this morning a Trump supporter stated she would not vote for him agan because he is too divisive. There are the election deciders, the unaffiliated, the switch voters and the so-called independents, they decide who gets elected. Trump lost most of those years ago, that put Biden into office along with cheating and Soros skullduggery.

    Just because I do not think Trump should run does not mean I support the (D)'s or the Swamp. I have voted every election and every primary since 1976. I missed a local primary in 2012 while caring for my moms husband with Dementia. I have NEVER voted for a Democrat, I have NEVER voted to increase my taxes for any reason.

    There is TDS on the center and left for sure, they despise the man. Some of you are displaying TBS right here. TBS is Trump Blindness Syndrome. Trump is a man, a flawed man, he was a great President. That ship has sailed, if continues to run his ego will put Gavin Newsome into office.

    Trump can not win reelection.

  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 855 ✭✭✭✭

    Last time Trump ran he was looked at as more of a joke by the media and in my estimate received over a billon dollars worth of advertisements for free from the media. That in it’s self shows that Trump is a savvy business man, but I don’t think the media will be foolish enough this time to let that happen again. Trumps biggest problem is that he needs to learn the word WE and drop the word I. Another problem is that he can only run for one term.

    I believe in Make America Great Again, but if Trump doesn’t get the GOP nod in the primaries and would decide to run as an independent, it will be the end of any type of conservative government in the future.

    All that being said, I believe Trump was one of the best presidents that ever represented the conservative ideals of this country. I like to think Trump taught us the difference between capitalism and socialism. If you had two cows, a socialist government would tell you how much milk you could keep, in a capitalistic government you would sell one cow and buy a bull.

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree.. Trump can't will just be 2020 all over again.. they will just keep printing ballots until they get enough to win.. like they just did again..

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,482 ✭✭✭✭

    Even Repubican's won't follow him this time.

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭

    If Trump is nominated you can bet your bippy I will vote for him. I am not the problem, it is over 80 million others that will assure he gets defeated and made to look like Beto or Stacy Abrams (the tank).

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭✭

    If they let Desantis "Win".. you can bet they own him.. I was behind him all the way until I found out that Dubya..Jeb.. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were backing him.. something's not right and that's why Trump turned on him..he joined the Rino's.. same old song and dance..

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭

    If Trump loses the primary election, fairly, then I believe he will support the winner. I'm assuming that Desantis will be his only real challenge.

    The only way Trump will lose the primary or the general, is if people vote based purely on their FEELINGS, or the commies cheat again(which they will)!

    It amazes me how someone votes based on feelings and not facts and results! This country is doomed if people don't start voting with their BRAINS!

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭

    Okay, I will accept your statement at face value. I don't care who backs him, I care about what he has done and will get done. Can you point to a single thing DeSantis has done or said that makes you believe he is in the pockets of the RINO's?

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 63,779 ******

    Right, Bruce? I think the main reason they're backing him is just to make a point to Trump. DeDantis does not walk or quack like a RINO duck, so more evidence would be needed to prove he is.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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