Took a little trip to the local gun shops yesterday.....Speaking of Experts !!
William81
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One of the stops was a large sporting goods store and I watched an "expert" try to help a young lady look at some firearms. Initially, I was looking at other items in the fishing department but kept hearing someone pulling the slide back on a semi-auto, locking it in place and then engaging the slide stop and dropping the slide on an empty chamber. She did it about 15 times when I stuck my head around the corner to see what the heck was going on.
She traded firearms and started doing the same thing. Both firearms were Glocks and she started in again. The counter guy was going on about trying the trigger and seeing if it felt good to her...He told her he was a Glock Armorer ..........
From across the gun counter, another customer yelled, "why don't you just drop the Magazine if you are checking the trigger" The counter guy told that guy he was a Glock armorer !!! The customer told him "then you should know dropping the slide on an empty chamber over and over is not the best idea ! "
That ended the conversation.....
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Appears that they know everything....
Enter another head shake for me
Don't you hate it when some smart aleck customer tries to show off in front of a guy who knows everthing?
Probably a 1911 owner yelling at them. You aint going to hurt a Glock doing that.
Perfection!
That's about the same as all the yahoos that open up the cylinder on a revolver, look at it, spin it, and flip it shut with a flick of the wrist. That really bugs me. Just plain hard on a finely fitted piece of machinery..........for no other reason than they have seen it done in the movies and it looks "super cool".
Idiots
Probably the same experts who recommend a "silencer" for a revolver. As seen on TV.
My personal favorite:
Local gun show; on the table, not 2 feet from a NIB Ruger Convertible Single Six, sat a lonely , also new, .22 Mag Cylinder. Box was even marked as ".22 L.R./.22 WMR" but no extra cylinder in the box.
I pointed this out to the dealer who insisted that cylinder did NOT go with that revolver. (How easy would have been to check?) After a back and forth exchange I finally said, "Well, if it won't fit your revolver, what would you take for it?"
A $20.00 bill later and I walked out wondering what might transpire when a customer came along who wanted both cylinders for a convertible. Dealer was so arrogant, I didn't lose any sleep over it.
Drop a Glock slide on an empty chamber all day no problems
even pull the trigger except for the 44 ( rimfire )
I have had centerfire semi autos continuously since I bought my Colt Combat Commander in 1971. This is the first I have heard that dropping the slide on an empty chamber is bad. I have probably done it hundreds of times over the past 50 years (well, that would only be a handful of times per year) with no ill effects that I could see. On .22 autos like the Woodsman series or High-Standards I don't like to do it because it seems to batter the breech face, but so does shooting a ton of ammo.
I think a rim fire would batter either the breech face of firing pin on an empty chamber. Loaded chamber the firing pin hits the soft brass which in turn prevents damage to above mentioned parts.
2 cents again.
I almost never let slides slam forward on an empty chamber..........makes no sense to me and just slams parts together without the intended "brass cushion" in place.
What kind of old man fuddery are we talking about here?
This will not hurt a Glock.
Ironically, the Glock armorer is probably telling the reverse of this story, to someone, somewhere.
Never mind.........
Talking about Fudds who watch too many movies.......kinda like the gangstas that think they can sight better down the side o the slide instead o actually using the sights.
Closing on an empty chamber probably doesn't hurt in either center or rimfire guns, but dry-firing a rimfire certainly does. The firing pin can eventually peen a "dragon tooth" at the mouth of the chamber, which makes chambering a round hard or impossible.
I think the main problem is the guy working the counter didn't show her (a complete newbie) how to properly release the slide with the magazine still in place.
It's gun handling 101. While holding the slide release (or slide lock for the 1911 owners) down, pull back on the slide, and ease the slide forward to close it.
I've only ever dropped the slide, on an empty chamber, on my 1911 style pistols........as an acid test for hammer "follow".
As for 22 autos.......some(S&W41) have "limited travel" firing pins......others(H-S....for one)do not. Still.........if dry firing.....I would keep a "dead" empty case in the chamber.
Where's Forge.......when we need him?? 😉