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Capitol Punishment scenario

asopasop Member Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭✭

Maybe in 1972 it was found unconstitutional !!?? (Admen. #8?). Then brought back to life (no pun intended) in 1976? Admen.#10? Any details would be appreciated. Thanks

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  • Kevin_LKevin_L Member Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2023

    That's a great topic. I found this info to be really informative:

    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/history-of-the-death-penalty/constitutionality-of-the-death-penalty-in-america

    I thought this was the most salient point: "the overall holding in Furman was that the specific death penalty statutes were unconstitutional. With that holding, the Court essentially opened the door to states to rewrite their death penalty statutes to eliminate the problems cited in Furman"

    The Georgia statute, the process of deciding 'live or die' was found to be unconstitutional and led to states addressing the arbitrary points in how the death penalty was decided.

    🇺🇲 "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson 🇺🇲

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭

    Why would you punish the capitol?

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2023

    The death penalty has been came & gone in many states for some time now. It has been litigated yea and nay for over half century now.

    IMHO, it is a states right issue and I prefer to live in a state where it is legal, otherwise mass murderers would eventually be released. IE: Leslie Van Houten just now in CA.

  • Kevin_LKevin_L Member Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭

    There's the argument that the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment and that incarceration is better for an 'elevated' society.

    Ok, lets go with that. Life sentence instead of death penalty. I think we can make this work...

    The scenario: a gang member kills some other gang members.

    Today's punishment: he goes to trial and gets life in prison. Big deal. He's with his crowd, getting fed 3 square, and has no expenses. Where's the deterrent? He's living the life!

    New and improved punishment, still no death penalty, merely a life sentence: air drop the gang-banger 1000 miles into the Alaskan interior with the gun he used for his killings, 1 full magazine, and nothing more.

    It's a life sentence. And a very short life.

    🇺🇲 "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson 🇺🇲

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,723 ******

    What really gets me is that even if a convicted murderer gets a death sentence, he sits around for some 20 years before it does or does not happen! The right to an appeal is fine but 20 years!!!!

  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭✭

    Bring back the chain gangs and make prisons a thing to be afraid of again.

    Shacking the bush boss, shacking the bush.

  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭

    @KenK/84Bravo wrote "Justice is Mine, sayeth the Lord."

    I believe this to be true. I also believe that He subcontracts some work out.

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭

    Put that 'chain gang' out in the field tending crops that feed themselves and the rest of detritus of society.

  • asopasop Member Posts: 8,977 ✭✭✭✭

    I believe in Illinois anyway prisoners used to make the state license plates at one time. Probably now considered cruel & unusual punishment😝

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭

    I used to drive past the Jefferson City MO 'prison farm' every 2-3 weeks and see the prisoners out pulling weeds in the fields with a couple of guards sitting at each end of the field with .30 cal carbines. Trustees got to drive tractors.

  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,032 ***** Forums Admin

    I think it was that way pretty much everywhere. I have a pair of 1951 Montana license plates, and they have "prison made" stamped right in them.

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