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thoughts ?

oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭

my son really wants to make my Christmas

we were browsing the auction side and he knew i really liked this 94

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1020779923

he left his cc and told me "go ahead and geet it, Merry Chrristmas early"

looks good, LOVE the wood, but my concern is a 94 with no bids ending tomorrow ?

any thoughts as to why ?

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  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭

    My concern would be, if the outside of the barrel had that much rust, what does the bore look like and where was the gun stored, to get in that condition. I would be very hesitant on buying it, but that is just me. The stocks are beautiful.

  • Kevin_LKevin_L Member Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭✭

    Too expensive. I know it's a gift from your son but there are better deals to be had.

    "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." 🍺 🇺🇲 🍔

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭

    i considered that too when he mentioned "took some steel down", but i dont see sign of heavy take own so it may have been scale

    seems a lot of sellers lack full descriptions as to condition especially bore, although he CLAIMS "but the gun looks like it hasn't been used much"

  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭

    The figure in the stocks is beautiful but itis not proud where it meets the metal. Looks like it's been sanded alot.

    I'd keep looking.

    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,155 ✭✭✭✭

    I think that butt stock has been replaced. It would be interesting to see what logo, if any, is on the butt plate.

  • toad67toad67 Member Posts: 13,019 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't think that it's a high grade model. I did a little bit of searching on the web and it every high grade model that I seen, represented something. There were some from the 100th anniversary of the 94, some that celebrated Oliver Winchester, as well as other Winchester milestones. They were all engraved and also had cresent butt plates, not shotgun style. I think that what you're looking at is just a 94 with an aftermarket butt stock with some decent figure. Since you asked, I'd stay away from it as a high grade, unless you just like the rifle. I also agree with Kevin, it's too much money for what it is.

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭

    yea, think i will pass unless it gets re listed lower

    like the bad guy in fast and furious, i "got a thing for wood" and got a bit of tunnel vision when i saw that LOL

  • Lady Rae Lady Rae Member Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭

    What a sweet dear son you have ❤️⛄🎄

    "Independence Now, Independence Forever."

    John Adams

  • scooterdriverscooterdriver Member Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful rear stock (the “high grade” part) put on a mistreated rifle. Seller warns everyone up front…”please look at the pics very carefully.” There’s so many 94s out there…I’d wait for a nicer one…even if the price on this gets reduced.

  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,679 ✭✭✭✭

    I see three things without looking to hard. It is a shooter and a $600 rifle . The age where wood matters is drying up, and yes I have bought firearms just because of the wood. Not so much anymore.

  • AdamsQuailHunterAdamsQuailHunter Member Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭✭

    Might like to check on the feedback also - "even if the price gets reduced (scooterdriver)".

    Best Regards - AQH

  • redhawkk480redhawkk480 Member Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭✭

    check out Locust Fork auctions

    item # 1020684756 or 1019787419 or 1019467331


    sorry about NO link but every time i tried posting a link to her auctions the site blocked it for some reason

  • tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭

    What a great son. I’m willing to bet that stock not original. Not factory fitted. I’d pass if you want a shooter. Pretty wood though

  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭
  • asopasop Member Posts: 8,889 ✭✭✭✭

    I must have raised mine wrong!! I've bought him maybe 10 firearms over the years and he hasn't even bought me a 50 round box of 22's😜

  • navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭

    The condition of the wood does not match the condition of the metal which shows honest wear over the years of use. I/m thinking the wood is a replacement or possibly refinished. It is a rifle for the hunt, not the collector IMO. Good luck.

  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭✭

    I see it's been sold and no Inspection period listed. Too much like buying a pig in a poke.

    I would pass for several reasons.

    The majority of the reasons have already been mentioned.

    You can do lots better for that price.

    It's been doctored to much and the doctoring actually reduced the value to the gun in my opinion. (has too much lipstick and make-up added to a rusty gun)

    The wood is not the original wood for that gun.

    Think about what you also cannot see.

  • oldemagicsoldemagics Member Posts: 5,814 ✭✭✭

    talk about poor descriptions, does this person have a clue

    i love my '99's even more than the '94

    here is their description;

    SARAH15 GUNS is thrilled to offer THIS SCARCE SAVAGE ARMS MODEL 1899 LEVER ACTION RIFLE CHAMBERED IN THE RARE .303 SAVAGE CARTRIDGE!.. FADED FINISH ON THE RECEIVER, LEVER, AND BARREL...ADJUSTABLE REAR SIGHT...EARLY SHELL COUNTER...DRILLED AND TAPPED FOR AN OPTIC MOUNT...CUSTOM CHECKERED WOOD STOCK AND GRIP WITH A LEATHER WRAP...C&R ELIGIBLE..

    truth is, the ammo has only been made on rare occasion by small mfg for 40 years or so

    finish is almost completely gone on right side of receiver

    early shell counter ? it was the same throughout the run

    drilled and tapped ? if not for a scope of the era an abomination !

    custom checkering ? looks like it was cut in by hand with a rusty pocket knife...

    and no mention at all about the badly broken really poorrepair on the stock... 😪

    link:

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1020022789

  • KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Yes Sir^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That is some "Custom Checkered Stock," all right. 🙄

  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭✭

    First off, those Blackhawk grips you made for my wife's 32-20/32 HR mag Ruger convertible ever so many years ago still look striking!!! If you are a serious Christian, as is my wife, to have her grips made with a cross in them makes the whole gun special to her!! So a heart felt thank you!!

    As to the Winchester, compared to many on this site I am anything but an authority. So when I can tell that that pretty stock is not original to the gun, than 100% that stock is not original. There has never been a Winchester ever to leave the factory with the wood to metal fit that bad!!

  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭

    Someone either used that gun for a baseball bat, or got mad and broke it. "Don't worry dad, I can fix it with a couple of nails and some glue" . That rifle has definitely seen its better days!!!

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