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The rich and the people who could leave left California.

yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,812 ✭✭✭✭

After reading Lady Rae thinking of leaving California and me long gave up on that. With most of newsom's clan already in Florida I guess I'm gonna be one of those people who can't afford to move. Besides the places I did want to move to turned into California. Also there is no way I can start over at my age and being too young to collect social security I'm stuck.

Now after seeing this and importing illegals I know I will be living in a third world wasteland just like in "Elysium" if I live long enough.


  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭

    Lots of us empathize with you. Not by choice, but I ended up working in Sacramento for many years.

    One day about 25 years ago, I saw the writing on the wall when I was refused purchase of a Stevens Favorite single shot rifle because I could not show proof that I had a gun safe to keep it secured in. Convinced my wife that the state was headed downhill, and we moved to eastern Montana. Never looked back.

  • Lady Rae Lady Rae Member Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3

    @yoshmyster as crazy as it sounds dad is thinking about Kansas. We already own a small house there and the cost of living seems good. I bought the little house for 33K cash and there are lots of job opportunities. Something to think about.

    P.S never too late to move... Dear Old Dad is 76 😍🥰

    "Independence Now, Independence Forever."

    John Adams

  • susiesusie Member Posts: 7,304 ✭✭✭✭

    My little corner of the world is off the beaten path, affordable housing, and jobs aplenty. Current River flows through it, backs up to national forest and still gun friendly.

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,154 ******

    Yosh, you can do it. You can move and start over. I don't think you're too old to do it. It's a lot of work, for sure.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭✭

    Based on the rents, gas and cost of living in Kal, I don't see how anyone can afford to stay. My nephew is in the LA area and hates it, but his wife & daughter want to stay. I've offered to give him $$$ towards a down payment on a house, provided it's not in Commiefornia.

  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭✭

    Sad and getting worse and no light at the end of the tunnel.

    I've not seen any GOOD pres candidates worth voting for yet (just the lesser of the evils) and not much hope for anyone turning around the mess within 4 years if elected that has been created in the last 12 years.

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,812 ✭✭✭✭

    Mobuck - Maybe? Or the ones i would flee from made the states in to California. At least they saved me the move. Now maybe I'll move for the tax reason to Oregon or Washington State but is it worth the 10%?

    chris8X57  - Has it been 25 years? I guess it's nearly so. Eastern Montana might as well be Alaska with the snow.

    Alpine  - Too late for me. Besides when newsom become the big "P" the US will be envy of the green idiocracy.

    Lady Rae/susie  - It's not about inexpensive housing. My condos paid off. It's that I could do without the HOA fees.

    Mr. Perfect  - I figure I'll be around for another 10/12 years so it's not worth the try. Yes I know I may get better "quality" of life out of California but who can promise? Be crazy if California turns red by the time I kick off.

    Toolman286  - Most states are turning in to California if they haven't they will. Look at Oregon and Washington State. Soon I see directly to the East of California will follow. Arizona, Nevada and maybe Idaho?

    Oh I'm done and I accepted my fate. The boats a sinking and I'm going down with it. Be nice if I could be a burden to the state.

  • BrookwoodBrookwood Member, Moderator Posts: 13,174 ******

    I'm very old school regarding this topic. Fleeing from a much loved place I call home, to live where my family has been for many generations and the ancestors are buried here.......

    Many of them had to fight (and some died) to protect their homes and country.

    NOPE! Not going to run away. I'm Not even a California resident, but......... Don't want to get political here.

  • SW0320SW0320 Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree, don’t do like I did I am self employed with several very successful businesses as long as I run them. I locked myself in and now it s very hard to move and start the businesses all over again.

  • austin20austin20 Member Posts: 34,683 ✭✭✭✭

    I sure love visiting California, I think we are going back to San Diego this summer for vacation. But I refuse to go near the big cities

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,651 ✭✭✭✭

    Its only going to get worse. WA & OR are just as bad and most state legislatures meet soon after the first of the year. Being DEMOCRAT controlled, you can be certain more gun control legislation will be passed.

    Heard WA state legislature will meet soon and a 1 gun per month limit law is on the table and repeal of preemption laws.

  • hillbillehillbille Member Posts: 14,086 ✭✭✭✭

    yoshy sell that condo and you could probubly buy a new condo in almost any other town outside of california, and put money in the bank, and your retirement would stretch a lot farther.......

  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,464 ✭✭✭✭

    San Diego's not a big city?

    @yoshmyster What do you do for a living? My guess is you'll be able to find work doing that or something similar in any sane state.

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,812 ✭✭✭✭

    Couldn't do that without taking a big hit on capital gains. Be better to take the cash and run to Taiwan (no extradition) since Argentina will extradite. Maybe some former Soviet states? Where the white women at?

    NeoBlackdog  - What ever I'll do I'll need to be close to a toilet these days on bad days. Now if only the rest of the country paid burger flippers $20 like California (yes they started this, this year '24) I can live the Kevin Spacy "American Beauty" life. If I didn't have the stomach issue I might've moved by now?

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,812 ✭✭✭✭

    I thought I had to roll over all or whatever I "gained" otherwise it would be taxed. Not that I'll have much left over but I'll have to live off that a while I look for a job (no longer pretty so I'll have to earn) and use some of that to move. Sure the 403b is there but that's more of a vacation at Vegas money.

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,154 ******

    Not if you've been where you are for at least 2 years.

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,028 ✭✭✭✭

    Just as a little aside my best friend, and his family, just sold some prime real estate on Palomar Mountain (over 100 acres near the Observatory) that has been in the family for over 100 years. He just bought property in Virginia and is moving there.

    He is done with Kalifornia.

    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately, the major portion of the migration out of California is into strong red states like Texas, Florida, and Tennessee with the intent of turning them blue just like was done with Colorado.

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,812 ✭✭✭✭

    Mr. Perfect  - Really? But there isn't anywhere to my liking. I suppose I could still look?

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