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Alec Baldwin Indicted

allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,149 ✭✭✭✭

A grand jury has indicted Alec Baldwin on an involuntary manslaughter charge in the deadly shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the New Mexico set of "Rust," months after prosecutors dropped their case against the actor over her death.

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  • Ruger4meRuger4me Member, Moderator Posts: 3,272 ******

    Saw that will probably get a walk as usual for the scum he is.

  • kannoneerkannoneer Member Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭✭

    I think it is not uncommon in movies and TV shows. I have even seen actors do it myself.

  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,382 ✭✭✭✭

    While I agree alec should be found guilty and spend time, I just don't see that happening. It isn't that I don't believe in our court system but lately I question it. I also don't understand why the newbe armorer isn't charged also. It's her job to offer safe firearms to actors. She is at least negligent.

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  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,510 ******

    She died at his hand.

  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,030 ✭✭✭✭

    Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

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  • elubsmeelubsme Member Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭

    I believe Hilarious is about to jump ship. Can you imagine the child support payments!!

  • Okie743Okie743 Member Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭✭

    Smart Aleck Baldwin says he did not pull the trigger.

    That gun is possessed and fired itself. Truer words were never spoken by a Democrat. Always not their fault.

    What a jerk.

  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,149 ✭✭✭✭

    Gutierrez-Reed faces involuntary manslaughter and evidence tampering charges related to the “Rust” shooting.

    Prosecutors claimed Gutierrez-Reed, as the set armorer, was responsible for the safety of the firearm and the set.

    Gutierrez-Reed posted this self portrait online several years ago.

  • austin20austin20 Member Posts: 34,692 ✭✭✭✭

    an old and dumb excuse used by more than him. I hope he gets convicted and serves some time.

  • dcon12dcon12 Member Posts: 31,929 ✭✭✭✭
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,149 ✭✭✭✭

    I know Baldwin is a Lib nutcake. But I watched Hunt for Red October last week, and he was great in that role.

  • forgemonkeyforgemonkey Member Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20

    I want to know what the forensic folk’s criteria was/is for determining the trigger had to be pulled for the gun to discharge.

    If the sear or hammer hook was altered to create a ‘hair trigger’ to enhance trigger pull, that could be another reason the gun was unsafe. If so, the hammer could have been ‘over cocked’ and as stated, “I released the hammer and the gun went off”. Witch means he could have let his thumb ‘slide’ off the hammer and fall on an altered sear, causing the gun to discharge.

    Regardless, sounds like the entire production was a tragic comedy of errors.

  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,090 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20

    I would bet that weekend they were shooting at Truly cans over the hill and somehow a round was left in the gun. When they get ready to film the armoror ( ha) just forgot to shake every round ( her father made ) ….


    it was all fun until an evil gun decided to kill someone…

    I believe that AB won’t do any time, odds are one in 12 will refuse to hold him accountable

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  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭✭

    I’m still baffled on as to where the live round came from and how did it get into the pistol in the first place. I don’t like Baldwin, but there are several angles from which to look at this case. As far as him saying he didn’t pull the trigger, that is false, he had to have pulled the trigger. Who loaded the gun and handled the blanks? To me that is where the fault rests. If someone intentionally placed a live round in the pistol then that would be murder not manslaughter.

  • Locust ForkLocust Fork Member Posts: 31,581 ✭✭✭✭

    I hope they know if he walks it will open the door for so many others to claim the same defense. Its going to be hard for them to say "he wasn't at fault" when it was 100% under his control when she was killed. I don't care the circumstances, you shot someone....the laws do not say "unless you are a movie star" anywhere and he needs to be punished in some way so all the actors handling firearms from this point forward take personal responsibility and LEARN A THING OR TWO before pointing things and pulling the trigger.

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  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,382 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm still waiting for the "I didn't know it was loaded" excuse.

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  • Butchdog3Butchdog3 Member Posts: 599 ✭✭✭✭

    "Unloaded" firearms kill way more than loaded ones in a situation like this.

  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,118 ✭✭✭✭

    Who presented the charge to the grand jury to go forward ?? Isn't that the prosecutors job to do that ?....but they dropped the case, I'm totally missing something here.

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  • 338magnut338magnut Member Posts: 760 ✭✭✭

    Baldwin along with several others of his caliber said they were leaving the United States if Trump were elected in 2016 which would have been great for the U.S. but none left I bet now he wish's he would have left. Terrill

  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,159 ******

    He is banned from the GB forums.

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  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭✭

    Have you seen the video of Baldwin practicing with that SAA Colt? As he pulls it up, and waves it around, his finger is wrapped around the trigger the entire time. His statement that he did not pull the trigger, just pulled back the hammer is probably correct because he already had the trigger pulled all the way back. Do that, and them pull back and release the hammer and the gun fires. Been that way for 150 years or more.

  • mstrblastermstrblaster Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭

    So this leaves a big open door for any criminal to say their "friend/partner/brother/mom/dad/gun shop" was supposed to have loaded the gun for them with blanks.....so it was not their fault! What a bunch of crap. Anyone hands someone/anyone a gun, they should check it.

    To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go out into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness, how cheap, how cowardly, how pathetic. Ted Nugent.
  • austin20austin20 Member Posts: 34,692 ✭✭✭✭

    I said it before. We all make mistakes I would have respect for him if he had been a man and owned up to his actions. But blaming the gun shows what a coward he is.

  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,118 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21

    I did some research on this and found only prosecutors can bring charges before a grand jury, yet it's also being reported that the prosecutors have dropped the charges against Baldwin even before the grand jury has indicted him. Something fishy is going on in the back rooms of the courthouse that we don't know about, maybe a political fix is in, making sure the case is dead as in "case closed"...forever.

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,382 ✭✭✭✭

    WHAT junkballer, are you saying that our legal system may be corrupt?

    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,833 ✭✭✭✭

    If that's what the "armorer" looked like I'm shocked there weren't more dead. So I guess that "movie" won't be released on DVD.

    Say did anyone do time for killing Bruce Lee's kid way back when? I guess I'll google it.

  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,149 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25

    Alec demands a speedy trial. Baldwin was charged with involuntary manslaughter on Friday in the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of “Rust” in 2021.

    It is the second time a grand jury has indicted Baldwin for Hutchins’ death. 

    Baldwin was originally charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter on Jan. 31, 2023, and the charges were later dropped in April 2023.



  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 20,833 ✭✭✭✭

    No double jeopardy? Also no more SNL Trump?

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭✭

    Double jeopardy does not apply here, he was never found innocent. He just used his power and money to get someone to drop the charges! Prob will do the same thing this time too, but it will cost him more this time.

  • bambihunterbambihunter Member Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭

    I am not familiar with the film industry so can't really guess on the process. I've always pictured when a firearm is needed, that the armorer retrieves the item from a locked location, inspects the item visually, then directly hands it to the person needing it for the scene.

    If that is the case, then at least ONE of them needs to be responsible. I don't like Baldwin, but if the scenario is like I described and has always been that way, I could see him taking the armorer's word for it. Even then, he would still bear some responsibility and should have admitted to pulling the trigger.

    For all of us familiar with firearms, we know to assume a gun is loaded and ALWAYS check.


    Interesting somewhat related incident...

    On my wife's side, a family member and his son were getting ready to go out hunting. He was probably 12 at the time. Like they always had (but shouldn't), they loaded the magazines in their guns, put the safety on, and cycled one in the chamber. Only this time, a .22lr went off the son was holding. Of course the dad was ticked. There's now a hole in their kitchen cabinet. He goes off on the son telling him that he must have been holding the trigger down when he cycled it because guns don't go off on their own. Next, he cycles the action to show the son and as you might have guessed, it went off again putting another hole in the cabinets.

    Turned out a little brass chip of a casing was stuck in the sear and wouldn't allow it to engage properly. As you can likely guess, they no longer load the chamber in the house.

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  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,149 ✭✭✭✭

    The armorer hands the gun to the actor. However, in this case, the armorer was not present. It was another assistant who handed the gun to Baldwin.

    Of course, the armorer should have been present, and as Producer it was Baldwin's duty to see that the armorer was on duty when guns were handled.

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