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  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭

    So, if the BATFE agents were so hyped up that they shot each other, how would any 'report' be honest and truthful?

  • grdad45grdad45 Member Posts: 5,373 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm pretty sure we will never know the REAL details surrounding that raid. It would have been easy to pick him up on the street, then exercise the search warrant. He wasn't hiding or evading. Even a FOIA request won't be honored.

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭

    Going to be interesting to see the findings of the STATE investigation. If ATF cooperates and shares details, it would be a shock. Would suspect a wrongful death lawsuit to follow.

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,858 ✭✭✭✭

    It's Trumps fault? To rub salt in the wound if they got the "Wong" house that would be too much.

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭

    A couple years back, the Feds showed up to make an arrest on a suspect in a county seat town just up the road. Three or four armored vehicles and 12-16 battle field equipped agents involved. Local PD/Sheriff's office was NOT included in the plan. In fact about as many guns pointed outward from the suspect house than inward.

    Afraid local LEO would get in the way? Maybe just that snooty?

    Turned out the suspect wasn't nearly as dangerous as the response seemed to imply and really no need to 'assault' the house. The guy usually walked to the coffee shop 2 blocks away for breakfast each morning and could easily have been gathered up w/o the big drama scene.

  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,150 ******
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭

    The local Sheriff sets the rules for those. Our Sheriff told the feds that they HAD to tell him if they were doing an "ACTION" in the county. One time they did not, and the next time every Sheriff patrol car was in their way when they left the area, and since the Sheriff owns the jail every "fish slip" was screntuzied for spelling and correct sections.

    There was no repeat of a non-informing action again.

    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******

    I'm having a hard time imagining that an agency that shouldn't exist would do something bad. Don't they just usually smile and sell cookies?

    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭✭

    I think the Feds get their training from watching Hollywood movies.

  • US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭✭

    Except in the movies people don't really die

    (other than that recent one).

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