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My nephew is 17. He has taken Spanish this year in 11th Grade. I speak pretty good conversational Spanish, and I ran a few phrases by him the other day in the Mexican restaurant, like, say to the waiter "La Cuenta por favor."
"Give me the check please." He couldn't understand what I was saying and could not repeat it to the waiter. I said "Benjamin you have taken Spanish for 8 months and you don't know a thing. What grades are you making because you deserve an F."
He told me he is making A's and B's. The teacher gives out the test, to translate 20 Spanish phrases into English, he looks up each phrase on the Iphone and simply writes down the translation, and he makes 100 on the test.
One problem is they can be used to cheat on tests.
In my college days, I sometimes used a recorder to record lectures but, always had the courtesy to ask the instructor first. Today, cell phones have recording functions.
Going thru graduate school, everyone used calculators with encouragement from faculty. Todays devices have calculator programs installed that can perform math & graphing functions
IMHO, It ought to be up to the teacher whether any such devices be allowed in class.
As with most of the issues with kids today, this boils down to a parenting problem. It's the PARENTS who let their kids have unfettered access to smart phones and other electronics. Parents start the kids on an iphone when they are 3 years old, let them have free reign with it, and then are surprised later when the phone becomes a distraction in school…..as if it is some unsolvable problem that they are powerless to control.
It's not just the phones in class that are the problem. It is the dumbing down of education to the lowest common denominataor, ( many students with 4.0GPAs have no idea what those last three words refer to). When one of my grandkids shows me his/her latest high school report card with all A's, I often ask a simple question, like "What is the square root of 144?", or, "What two elements combine to form water?" I always get just a blank stare.
Believe it or not I had a 4th grade teacher that taught us how to use an abacus, she was a teacher that got caught up in WW-2 teaching school in China for the duration of the war, afterwards she came back home and applied her skills, she did me very good when it came to figuring math problems with pencil & paper plus an abacus to boot, I'll trust my own results on either, they've done me well over the years 👍️
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Future doctors needing to google it before operating. Reminds me of the tv show "Resident Alien". I reckon they'll make one hell of "researchers" but I wouldn't want then to put it in to application.
Thinking back.......first, starting in the mid-1970's, there was the "Pong" game at the bowling alleys. In the mid-80's....Pac-Man showed up at our local deli's.
By the late 1980's, Nintendo's Super Mario Bros. had become many families "free" child/baby sitter.............thus enhancing the road to electronic and societal oblivion.
I remember bringing up my 4 boys during those early video game years. I could see where addictions could easily become problematic even then. I had strict rules for all that there would be no gaming during the school week and only allowed on weekends.
These so called phones now days are a real thorn in a families backside!
When I went to school there was not really a problem in getting us students to pay attention and not act up. Most teachers had a paddle or a board. I remember this one teacher using the board on someone once, from that day forward he had my undivided attention.
If any of my teachers had used their paddle on me once I would have been a happy camper, I learned early what the "Board of Education" really meant…….😮 but they still loved me….they all said so 😊
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
I was in Coach Hauck's Algebra and Trig class. One day, I heard him say "OK Allen what's the solution to that equation?"
And I said "Coach Hauck would you repeat the equation?"
"Daydreaming again, Griggs? Out in the hall." Every boy in the class groaned. Because they knew, that they probably were next. Coach Hauck meant I had to go out in the hall for 2 licks. Plus, the sound of the whacks echoed down the hallway, and was heard by a hundred boys. And when they heard it, every one of them groaned. They felt my pain.
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sad situation we are in
My nephew is 17. He has taken Spanish this year in 11th Grade. I speak pretty good conversational Spanish, and I ran a few phrases by him the other day in the Mexican restaurant, like, say to the waiter "La Cuenta por favor."
"Give me the check please." He couldn't understand what I was saying and could not repeat it to the waiter. I said "Benjamin you have taken Spanish for 8 months and you don't know a thing. What grades are you making because you deserve an F."
He told me he is making A's and B's. The teacher gives out the test, to translate 20 Spanish phrases into English, he looks up each phrase on the Iphone and simply writes down the translation, and he makes 100 on the test.
Schools are BANNING CELL PHONES in some areas of the MidWest. Rightly so. Students have ZERO need/use for a phone during class time.
One problem is they can be used to cheat on tests.
In my college days, I sometimes used a recorder to record lectures but, always had the courtesy to ask the instructor first. Today, cell phones have recording functions.
Going thru graduate school, everyone used calculators with encouragement from faculty. Todays devices have calculator programs installed that can perform math & graphing functions
IMHO, It ought to be up to the teacher whether any such devices be allowed in class.
The best I could manage, in those days.......was a Post Versalog slide rule.
And......ya better know what yer do'in.😉
Shoot, I used an abacus.
As with most of the issues with kids today, this boils down to a parenting problem. It's the PARENTS who let their kids have unfettered access to smart phones and other electronics. Parents start the kids on an iphone when they are 3 years old, let them have free reign with it, and then are surprised later when the phone becomes a distraction in school…..as if it is some unsolvable problem that they are powerless to control.
Put signal blockers in all classrooms. Duhhhhhh!!!!!
It's not just the phones in class that are the problem. It is the dumbing down of education to the lowest common denominataor, ( many students with 4.0GPAs have no idea what those last three words refer to). When one of my grandkids shows me his/her latest high school report card with all A's, I often ask a simple question, like "What is the square root of 144?", or, "What two elements combine to form water?" I always get just a blank stare.
In 9th grade I got my first real job arou d 1971
I bou g t a calculator (pocket model about the size of a laptop . At radio shack 39.00 a lot of money for a kid making 1.25 a hour
Any way the teachers refused to allow me to use it in class
I understood, as it was new technology and would have been cheating
but just after I graduated in 1975 it was soon a manatory item in math class
My 11 month old granddaughter has known how to tap her two big sisters cell phones to turn on their phones for at least the last 5 months.
This wont change anytime soon short of an EMP attack.
One of many, many reasons the future looks pretty grim.
Believe it or not I had a 4th grade teacher that taught us how to use an abacus, she was a teacher that got caught up in WW-2 teaching school in China for the duration of the war, afterwards she came back home and applied her skills, she did me very good when it came to figuring math problems with pencil & paper plus an abacus to boot, I'll trust my own results on either, they've done me well over the years 👍️
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
Future doctors needing to google it before operating. Reminds me of the tv show "Resident Alien". I reckon they'll make one hell of "researchers" but I wouldn't want then to put it in to application.
Thinking back.......first, starting in the mid-1970's, there was the "Pong" game at the bowling alleys. In the mid-80's....Pac-Man showed up at our local deli's.
By the late 1980's, Nintendo's Super Mario Bros. had become many families "free" child/baby sitter.............thus enhancing the road to electronic and societal oblivion.
And........here.....we......and our children.......are.😖😞
I remember bringing up my 4 boys during those early video game years. I could see where addictions could easily become problematic even then. I had strict rules for all that there would be no gaming during the school week and only allowed on weekends.
These so called phones now days are a real thorn in a families backside!
When I went to school there was not really a problem in getting us students to pay attention and not act up. Most teachers had a paddle or a board. I remember this one teacher using the board on someone once, from that day forward he had my undivided attention.
If any of my teachers had used their paddle on me once I would have been a happy camper, I learned early what the "Board of Education" really meant…….😮 but they still loved me….they all said so 😊
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
I was in Coach Hauck's Algebra and Trig class. One day, I heard him say "OK Allen what's the solution to that equation?"
And I said "Coach Hauck would you repeat the equation?"
"Daydreaming again, Griggs? Out in the hall." Every boy in the class groaned. Because they knew, that they probably were next. Coach Hauck meant I had to go out in the hall for 2 licks. Plus, the sound of the whacks echoed down the hallway, and was heard by a hundred boys. And when they heard it, every one of them groaned. They felt my pain.
If we expect the next generation to serve in the infantry we have to invent battle sites that can be viewed through their phones
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I just noticed that was post number 4895. Not sure if it is an H or an IMR but it's a good number 👍️
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