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Something I heard made no sense to me.

yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,858 ✭✭✭✭

I half caught something about biden yapping about gun companies are exempt from being sued. And I'm thinking that can't be right. I mean all the booze makers are exempt. If a dude gets drunk and slams in to a bus load of lawyers the drunk dude gets sued and not the booze maker. I'm thinking is it because of all the taxes they collect?

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  • Butchdog3Butchdog3 Member Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭
  • brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭✭

    At one time they were exempt but the Sandy Hook shooting somehow allowed the gun company to get sued

  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭✭

    The Protection of lawful commerce in arms act is supposed to protect manufacturers from being sued although it has a few caveats, one of which is the gun can't be faulty for example.

    Bushmaster was able to be sued due to the advertising for their rifles, supposedly some judge decided their advertising was reckless since it was geared towards military activities and self defense they claimed Bushmaster was "clearly " marketing those guns to kill people.

    It was crap and the PLCAA should have protected them but what do activist judges care about laws nowdays.

  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,219 ✭✭✭✭

    The insurance company's throw in the towel just to keep a clean name they areno money as it's the policie holder's anyway but the left sees it as the gun company giving in and so it goes a foot in the doorfor more lawsuits

    Company's have the right to be protected

    Unless their product was intentionally build and sold

    We don't hold drug or alcohol or car and basically any company liable if the there product is misused but the left is determined to go after guns no holds or laws matter

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭✭

    Yea, and Hunter Biden is going to get 25 years in federal prison!

    Just sayin'

  • waltermoewaltermoe Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭

    I don’t believe Oxycontin was manufactured to get people hooked. It was designed with intent to relieve sever pain. Drugs such as Seconal and Sodium Anabarbital have run past their non generic patent date. Drug companies are always looking for new drugs for the medical field, and they can hold that patent for seven years. There is no getting around it, all barbiturates are addicting over time, but as I was told to me a long time ago, there is no need for someone to have to be in pain nowadays. It is individual that takes it on them selves to abuse the drug.
    I will have to agree with Dutch- Runner that companies have a right to be protected, if not a lot of companies would stop exploring new ideas.
    This drive to put gun manufactures out of business is driven by greedy lawyers and the supporters of WOKE.

  • Butchdog3Butchdog3 Member Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭

    As we have said guns, knives, drugs, liquor do not kill people.

    Our natural born nature is to kill and seek pleasure. Sometimes the end result is not good.

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,670 ✭✭✭✭

    I’ll believe this when we land on the moon.

    The suits against the evil ‘big pharma’ by state AG’s surrounding opioids is a blatant money grab designed to line pockets and sway voters.

    It costs us all money in the end, and provides nothing of actual benefit

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 13

    Nailed it! So people are upset, in pain, and even dying because they cant get meds. People wonder why they dont make certain chemo drugs needed to treat cancer here in the USA. Bet people are clueless most of our meds are made in China. Further people whine about escalating costs of most basic & common meds all brought about by the hostile legal environment pharmaceutical corps have to deal with.

    Plaintiff based and class action lawsuits are a serious problem and they are second only to government as to why we have destroyed most of our manufacturing base here in America.

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,670 ✭✭✭✭

    I am not dismissing the source, Lucky, but am challenging your claim that oxycontin was 'purposefully' formulated to addict people. The article is damning as to the ethics and morals of the Sacklers and Purdue as a company, but it only states that Purdue did not pro-actively discount the misconception by some in the medical community as to the strength of oxy as compared to morphine. I believe they should have made efforts to dispel the myth, but as they were not promoting anything untrue, I disagree with criminal liability.

    The bottom line is that doctors over-prescribed the drug in many cases, and individuals doctor shopped and engaged in illegal multiple sourcing of the drug. The lack of personal responsibility by the users is the primary cause of the problem. The over-prescribing even after the effects were known is a secondary cause, and the effectiveness of the drug is a distant third, in my opinion.

    If we evolve into a society where the individual can always blame someone higher up on the food chain, we are lost.

    The medical community makes mistakes. We must remember that heroin was originally developed for commercial use and actively marketed as a less addictive substitute for morphine.

    Oxy was never marketed that way.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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