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H Holland Double Rifle
Toolman286
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I'm helping with a friend's estate and they have a double barreled rifle marked " H Holland 98 New Bond Street London" in 500/450. It's engraved, the screws are timed and the barrels have a Damascus look. The hammers & triggers work but the lever will only wiggle and we don't want to force it. We tried researching it but couldn't find anything similar. Any help would be appreciated. The owner did reload and shot it.
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Not a lot of help, but from the Name and address markings, it was made between 1858 and 1876. Sometimes with underlever shotguns there is an extra amount of resistance before the lever moves freely. I think it was to prevent accidental opening while in the field. That being said, I sure wouldn't force it because obviously any part would have to be custom fabricated if you break something. Cool old rifle - good luck with it. Bob
black powder cartridge what is caliber marking
No caliber marking. The 500/450 was on the owner's notes.
Thanks for the time line info !
I called H&H in Dallas and sent them the ser# & pics.
I will let you know what we find out. AL
I was able to move the take down lever when I compressed the barrels to the frame. Guy at H&H said the ser # should be 4-5 numbers but this one is only 3. I heard back from H&H. They can't shed any light on it as none of the stamped #s fall in line with Holland & Holland's numbering system. Seems like H. Holland might of had a different system.
The proof marks on the bottom of the barrels will tel you what country it was made in. The most common country that copied others designs was Belgium, stamped ELG. Good luck.
Hollland & Holland usually used the full name.
H .Holland may be a well built Belgium copy. (many shotguns were made to copy off of well known names).
" Side by Sides of the World" by Charles Carder great Reference (out of print)
Check out this factory H&H https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4090/1563/antique-holland-holland-back-action-hammer-double-rifle
Research indicates that is is pre H&H, as in Harris Holland. I'll post pics of the #s between the barrels & action but since it's not mine I've redacted the last #s.
Thanks for all your interest. It's quite the classic rifle. Al
Alex Henry rifling, right? The Henry's Patent numbers - consecutive, right? - on the barrels are for the barrels themselves, likely keeping track of royalties owed.
I don't know why the number on the water table and the one on the barrel flat do not match, unless they are from different guns. Might explain hard opening.
hello to Russ ; i was jumpin around and saw this ..I hope all is well
you do find some of the most interesting things
RonV