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Question about my winchester 94 (Bert?)

DirtyDiesel66DirtyDiesel66 Member Posts: 18
edited September 27 in Ask the Experts

I have a near mint model 94 that I know was manufactured in 1968. I was only 2 yo then so I can't remember if sears was still selling guns at that point but this gun has a sears recoil rubber on the butt stock that appears to be original to it.

This button plate is one of the minor flaws in it that I would like to fix which would be replacementas a tiny chunk is missing. It doesn't affect shooting it and is only cosmetic. If this would have been original is it possible to locate the that have the sears brand on them?

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  • Toolman286Toolman286 Member Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭✭

    Does the barrel stamp say Winchester or one of the Sears trademarks & their model # ?

  • DirtyDiesel66DirtyDiesel66 Member Posts: 18

    It only say winchester on it. The butt plate is the only mention of sears on it.

  • DirtyDiesel66DirtyDiesel66 Member Posts: 18

    My pics are not the best but the rest of the rifle looks extremely good and nothing like a 55yo gun (even a well taken care of of that age). I'm certain it has had very few rounds put through it. That is the main reason I would go as far as running down a correct butt plate. Condition was also the reason I bought it as I already had 2 other 30/30 rifles but both of them are well used

  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,852 ✭✭✭✭

    In the first close up pic of the recoil pad is that a crack in the wood? In the second set of the pics the second image what is that bump in the mid-stock? I'd take a screw driver and see what's going on in the stock.

    If you want to make her pretty I'd get a similar style grind to fit. I'd keep the take off in a zip-lok and watch it disinigrate.

  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭

    Can’t believe that buttplate was factory, put a post 64 plate on it unless the stock been cut.

  • chris8X57chris8X57 Member Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭

    The recoil pad looks like a re-branded Pachmayr sold as a Sears brand and installed later. If the rifle was a re-branded Sears, it would have been marked as a JC Higgins, or a Ted Williams.

  • Butchdog3Butchdog3 Member Posts: 935 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27

    Winchester never made a messed up butt plate like that.

    Bubba has been working on it. Note the chips missing in wood between stock and pad in picture #1. Stock was shortened to make up for pad. Stock split when Bubba did not pre drill for pad screw.

    Sears guns were mostly marked Ted Williams, Ranger, or as said Higgins. I think but I sure don't claim to be an expert.

  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭✭

    Your rifle is a Winchester, definitely not Sears. That is an after-market recoil pad not original to the rifle. The stock has been cut to accommodate the pad. It appears to me that the rifle was dropped in the upright position and landed on the toe of the stock, breaking out that piece of the pad and breaking off the toe of the wood. The wood was glued back on but nothing could be done about the pad. It seems you have three options: Replace the pad with a Pachmayr (those are not just "bolt-on", they have to ground to fit—a touchy job!), try to find a replacement stock complete with original butt plate, or live with it as is. Incidentally, the stocks on Winchester 94's of that era were not walnut but stained birch or beech and it appears yours is one of those. You have a good little Winchester carbine, just not valued as the pre-64 Winchesters.

    I hope this helps.

  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭

    If it were mine, I would have a new rifle pad sanded to fit. (Rifle pad - smooth sided without the open waffle weave of this shotgun pad.)

  • truthfultruthful Member Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree that the stock appears to have been cut. A replacement stock and an original Winchester butt plate would seem to be the way to go. Both are readily available.

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