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Fake? Ranger
kissgoodnight
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I ran into a guy who claims to have been a Ranger.
His story smells.
How can I check the status of his claims.
His story smells.
How can I check the status of his claims.
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...I thought Beach Recon was Shore Patrol, lol...
AWESOME! I actually laughed when I read this part...
There's a site for reporting BS'ers
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies1095.htm
use it!
All you have to do is ask him a few direct questions and based on his answers, you will be able to easily figure out his BS. Ask him what the Identifier is for Ranger school. Very few BS'ers know anything about indentifiers, let alone the "Victor" for Rangers. I am truly enraged when I hear people BSing about the military. I have done my fair share of stretching the truth on long shots or the quality of girl that I took home that night (when I was single!), but don't say you have done something that you don't have the guts to do. Good luck and make him feel like a fool and then introduce him to a recruiter!
VERY NICE, BUT IM SURE HE WILL CRAP HIS PANTS IF YOU TOOK HIM TO A RECRUITER. IF HE DID GET IN HE WOULD ONLY BE A "PX RANGER"
SQI for Airborne is "P"
If you have both, your Identifier is "V"
It seems like more and more of these wannabes are coming out of the woodwork. I stoppd at a stop and rob the other night for a cup of coffee being I work the graveyard shift. Clerk inside asked about a patch on my uniform. After I explained what it was for, he began to regale me in the fact that he was prior service as a Navy Seal, that he had been released from active duty because of a knee injury. Ok I can see that but it gets better. This guys is 19, does not have a high school diploma or GED (Good Enough Diploma). First says he was deployed to Central Baghdad for 36 months with Seal Team Six. Then said he was deployed to the same place from 07-08, and helped take out one of Sadams palaces. using 6-blocks of C4 to take down the front door. I had to leave to keep from laughing, says he wants to put in for the next police academy. I sure hope so, however he will need to get a high school diploma[:D]
6 BLOCKS OF C-4, that must have been one heck of a front door. He is 19 with no diploma he was never in the Navy let alone a SEAL. He might have been in the delayed entry program, and they threw him out when he failed high school. Don't worry he won't make it to the police academy nobody will hire his sorry butt.
so lets do some simple math
18 years + 18 months (min to E4) + about 6 months (time for pre ranger course and ranger school) = at least 20 years old
long gone are the days of the 18 year old airborne ranger E5
18 years + 24 months (min to E5) + 1 year 6 months min (selection and training)= atleast 21 years old to be special forces or delta and a 6 year manditory commitment to the Army. so atleast 27 years old when they would get out.
quote:Originally posted by pipe7
It seems like more and more of these wannabes are coming out of the woodwork. I stoppd at a stop and rob the other night for a cup of coffee being I work the graveyard shift. Clerk inside asked about a patch on my uniform. After I explained what it was for, he began to regale me in the fact that he was prior service as a Navy Seal, that he had been released from active duty because of a knee injury. Ok I can see that but it gets better. This guys is 19, does not have a high school diploma or GED (Good Enough Diploma). First says he was deployed to Central Baghdad for 36 months with Seal Team Six. Then said he was deployed to the same place from 07-08, and helped take out one of Sadams palaces. using 6-blocks of C4 to take down the front door. I had to leave to keep from laughing, says he wants to put in for the next police academy. I sure hope so, however he will need to get a high school diploma[:D]
6 BLOCKS OF C-4, that must have been one heck of a front door. He is 19 with no diploma he was never in the Navy let alone a SEAL. He might have been in the delayed entry program, and they threw him out when he failed high school. Don't worry he won't make it to the police academy nobody will hire his sorry butt.
Ya thats what I thought too, like I said I had to leave before I died laughing. Then again what do you expect, our society is filled with people who dont have the Honor or Integrity to wear the uniform but want to share in its accomplishments. Your right he wont make it in life much less the police academy. I dont really expect him to ever attend ours, at least while Im still working here
But if you know the military its the other fields that havethe most people. Real Recon/Special Forces are few.
From an old retired Marine Engineer Mech.
Buddy of mine I grew up with was Deputy and Acting Commander, Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Arabian Peninsula during Iraq 2 as a Seal LT Commander. Google Ryan Zinke for his MT State Representative web site to read about this great warrior.
Useally you have to pry stories out of them unless it was over leave experiences.
In response to Pipe...it is my understanding that Delta and Rangers handled Iraq and Afghanistan while the SEALS..including SEAL team 6 stayed in Afghanistan....this coming from an Ranger E-7 that spent 5 combat tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Thats probably very well true, like I said this was a 19year old stop and rob clerk who hadnt finished high school or have a GED. It just goes to show how many wannabe are coming out of the wood work wanting to claim so form of fame without putting boots on the ground. I knew he was full of sht because real professionals do not boast or brag about their accomlpishments, and they only talk about what they did with fellow operators or close friends
I ran into a guy who claims to have been a Ranger.
His story smells.
How can I check the status of his claims.
Coin check him! Then tell him to "find a tree". If he looks at you with blank look on his face he is full of poop.
If he makes it past that, ask him to recite the Ranger Creed. No poser would take the time to learn that and no Ranger would ever forget it.
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One friend of mine was without a doubt one of the most interesting mercenaries I have ever been personally close with, he was civilian, never active duty but he was involved in the craziest level of black ops I've ever heard of. He told me generalities even though I had never seen him brag or say anything to anyone else. He had a huge guy picking a fight with him in a bar with me one night and he never once warned the guy about training or how lethal he was, I backed the guy off and told him he was going to wake up in a hospital trying to figure out what happened. He just thanked me and said he appreciated the interference.<br>
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This guy was civilian and cleared for every helicopter you could imagine including slicks and full out gunships including cobras when they were the deal, I don't imagine many civilians have a gunship certification. He had millions of dollars in the bank and had told me he had done missions with a gunship that the government would completely deny if he were caught. He never told me a single hard mission but he did say he got paid as much as two and a half million dollars for one single night's work. I can only surmise, he never told me a thing that would or could be directly linked or had one specific detail come to think about it. He did fly elite civilian mercenary teams into operations where they were usually left to get themselves out.<br>
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One way I think you could tell a guy is blowing smoke is if you are well versed with different military and government defense styles, you could ask some questions about training that would leave him a bit stranded.<br>
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I don't know, unless maybe this guy is real young and green I don't think he'd be making a very big deal about it.<br>
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A real close friend won't even tell me what he was in Vietnam, just undesignated elite forces that worked in teams of two to half a dozen. When I pushed him he said he was only going to tell me one thing and it was never to be pushed again. He said he and three guys went into a mission two days out and he was the only one that made it back, and he closed with that was all he was ever going to say.
At that time, ALL my DS's were VN vets. Senior drill was a clone of Billy Dee Williams and a 3-tour Airborne Ranger Pathfinder.
I learned to ultimately respect anyone wearing those special patches and never would impune their reputation by fabricating BS stories.
While I was active duty, I started filling out the applications for SEAL training, but never submitted them since I met my wife then and didn't want to subject her to that lifestyle.
It was bad enough being 19K, just finished transition training from M60A3 to M1 when we got married and being gone so much to play withour new toys.
I have friends that were SEAL's, SF, SO. None are the type to go around bragging.
quote:Originally posted by pipe7
6 BLOCKS OF C-4, that must have been one heck of a front door. He is 19 with no diploma he was never in the Navy let alone a SEAL. He might have been in the delayed entry program, and they threw him out when he failed high school. Don't worry he won't make it to the police academy nobody will hire his sorry butt.
6 blocks of C4....WOW
He told me a few stories about the blackest black imaginable and holding as still as possible trying to sense if there were other people in the tunnel with him. I couldn't even imagine volunteering for that and nobody was forced to go into a tunnel.
I met a wannabe once in a bar in Jacksonville, NC who claimed he was Force Recon and just got back off deployment where he got a silver star. I knew this guy was full of it from the start because he was wearing a kick me shirt. I called a few friends to come hear his BS. He was talking about speacializing in hostage rescue and being a sniper and being first in the door. I asked why he would be first in the door as a sniper, he said his big gun would scare the enemy into giving up, if not he had one shot then he would go to his MP5. I asked what type of MP5 he used, the idiot had the nerve to tell me there was only one type, the MP5. He said he even had a special ID card. I asked him to see his ID card. He tried to tell me NonNCO meant NATO Nation NCO. I told him he was full of BS, He was not an NCO, He was not a sniper, and he was not Force Recon. He still insisted he was right so I asked him what platoon he was in, he told me 1023. I told him to get his butt back to Camp Geiger before it got kicked by 3 members of 2d Force Recon. He tried to tell me what unit I wasn't in. We kindly called the MPs and escorted him out of the Bar. They was looking for him he was UA from MCT.
That's awesome.
Well, this guy turns out to be the biggest crybaby and whiner you ever saw, could'nt run, march, do the obstacle course, always throwing up after meal time(well, a lot of guys did that. the food really sucked) After 2-3 weeks, MCRD had enough of this clown and discharged him as unsuitable for military service. When our DI told us, the whole platoon cheered. They were tired of his poop as well!
Well, this guy turns out to be the biggest crybaby and whiner you ever saw, could'nt run, march, do the obstacle course, always throwing up after meal time(well, a lot of guys did that. the food really sucked) After 2-3 weeks, MCRD had enough of this clown and discharged him as unsuitable for military service. When our DI told us, the whole platoon cheered. They were tired of his sh-t as well!