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The Unfolding Healthcare Holocaust

Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,821
edited March 2014 in Politics
Nice to know you are dead after 60



Here is an article everyone over the age of sixty should read very carefully. If you are already somewhat skeptical of government's stated role as an impartial arbiter and guarantor of the common good, there is nothing more to be said; you'll take this very seriously. But, if you're someone who has been imbibing the Kool-Aid from the liberal side, and have largely lost your ability to think independently because you automatically accept the "progressive" line verbatim, this is information you simply must verify or debunk, but certainly not ignore. You can't afford to ignore this because it simply doesn't sound like liberal boiler-plate. There is way too much at stake for your future well-being... if you even have much of a future at this point.

Now, I know there are some out there who will read the first couple paragraphs and, for whatever reason, decide to quit reading. Please read all of this article and contemplate the possible consequences to your future. We're ALL going to have to make an extreme effort to get this madness reversed and we can't afford any ignorance in anyone because they couldn't be bothered to inform themselves...

Cashu

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http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/04/the-unfolding-healthcare-holocaust/

The Unfolding Healthcare Holocaust


Dave Hodges
December 4, 2013
The Common Sense Show

obmurdersplash

This article is not just about Obamacare costs and quality of treatment, it is about the healthcare holocaust which commenced on October 1, 2013. Obamacare, or dare I say, Obamacide, represents the biggest threat to the well-being and longevity for you and your loved ones.
Rule for Thee but Not for Me

One of the most incredulous aspects of Obamacare enforced, mandatory compliance is that the mandatory provision does not include the legislators who imposed this monstrosity upon us, namely, the Congress. Obamacare is going to prove so substandard that even Obama and his family want nothing to do with it. Are you mad yet? Well, we are just getting started.

The corporate friends of the President, such as the employees at General Electric, McDonalds, several labor unions, SEIU, the thugs at ACORN and over 1,300 big contributors to the Democratic party will not be forced to participate. The agency which will enforce the penalty phase of Obamacare, the IRS, was recently issued an exemption from participating as well. In short, if your corporation donated heavily to Obama's re-election campaign, an exemption to the mandatory phase of Obamacare has been issued. For everyone else, tough luck, you will be participating in a system which will no doubt hasten the demise of yourself as well as tens of millions of other Americans.

Obamacare mandates the imposition of 19 new taxes which have never existed before including the tax on a home sale which really has nothing to do with healthcare. And if you use an indoor tanning booth, expect to pay a 10% tax.
Obama Said "You Can Keep Your Plan"

Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.
Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.



There have already been over five million policy cancellations because employers will not conform to the excessive dictates of Obamacare. The estimates are that at least 16 million Americans will lose their healthcare because of the excessive demands placed upon employers and their health care coverage regulations.
Obama Said "You Will Save Money On My Plan"

obamacare free

Under Department of Health and Human Services poverty level guidelines, if you're a single earning worker making $44,680, or a couple earning a mere $60,520, or a family of four earning a modest income of $92,200, Obama eliminates your subsidy from the government for lower health costs. I do not mean to speak down to anyone, but do you realize that a couple making $60,520 per year is the equivalent of two fast food jobs? These are very modest incomes and the cost aspect of Obamacare should be raising red flags for all middle class income families.

The Kaiser Foundation published an ObamaCare Cost Calculator which will help you and your family calculate your costs, after subsidies. Please be aware this is a basic estimate for the cost of a "Silver plan" (the second tier plan, as opposed to the basic "Bronze plan" on the Exchange). Please also note that the total cost is greatly affected by a "regional cost factor" (increasing or decreasing the premium by as much as 20%). There are indeed separate plans, consisting of Bronze, Silver, Gold and something called the Cadillac plan. However, there is an absence of information about what each level of the Obamacare plan entails in terms of cost and treatment. One thing is clear, when the health plan is divided up into differing levels of care and cost, there is indeed a problem because it is apparent that people will not be treated equally under Obamacare.

For a family of four with two dependent children and a $100,000 income, Obamacare insurance costs are nearly $10,000 per year. Such a family could have expected to pay about $500 per month under existing plans such as United Health Care. Under Obamacare, the cost more than doubled.

For the same family listed above making $150,000 per year, they will pay almost $14,000 per year or 350% more than they would expect to pay in today's health insurance market. This is obviously why the corporate friends of Obama are seeking exemptions from participation. And for those who seek their own exemption through non-participation, they will be fined 2.5% of gross adjusted income and the amount will increase with each successive year that they refuse to participate.
England's NHS System Is Obamacare's Model

obama final solution

In England, Granny must die to save the state money. These words ring true as Dr. Patrick Pullicino discovered that there are approximately 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in a hospital or under NHS care. Around 29% of that number, or about 130,000, were euthanized patients who were on the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP).

The Pullicino findings are bolstered by the newly discovered heinous compensation practices from the NHS with regard to the LCP. The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial "pathway" to death, as this fact has not been publicly disclosed.

The undeniable fact is that the British NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage and they wish to free up beds. However, the main motivation for this attack upon humanity is that they are making money by eliminating the lives of the elderly in Britain.

Pullicino states that NHS doctors have turned the use of a controversial death pathway into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly. Pullicino has extensively researched the issue and asserts that elderly patients, who could live longer, are prematurely placed on the LCP and it has now become an assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway. On average, patients submitting to LCP die within 33 hours.

For the Seventy-two trusts to receive compensation for euthanizing the elderly, the trust must respond to such questions as how many people had died on the LCP over the past three years and how much money received in that period was attached to goals involving the premature deaths of the elderly.

A staggering 62% of the trusts admitted that they had received, or will receive, cash rewards for meeting targets (i.e., killing old people) associated with the implementation of the LCP. The other 38% seem to enjoy killing for just the sport of it, as they admitted that they had adopted the LCP without receiving any payments from NHS. This is hell on earth.
Obamacare Death Panels

One would think that the Globalists would be ecstatic with the murder of over 50 million fetuses in the last 40 years in the United States. There seems to be a Planned Parenthood abortion factory on every corner attempting to abort every baby that they can get their hands on, but the Eugenics crowd at the United Nations are not satisfied. They want even more death and destruction as they are demanding an even greater reduction in population from an increasing number of segments in our population.

A top Democrat strategist, Steven Rattner, who served as President Obama's lead auto-industry adviser, wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times entitled "Beyond Obamacare" in which he calls for death panels and that the implementation of these panels are inevitable. Of course, Rattner's comments have been totally ignored by the corporate-controlled media. As was the case with the LPC of the NHC, Rattner supports the rationing of health care for elderly patients, while unequivocally stating that "We need death panels." Rattner also serves on the board the New America Foundation, a George Soros-funded think tank that was instrumental in supporting rationed healthcare. Clearly, this is an Agenda 21 population reduction program. Similar systems exist in many countries, including Australia and New Zealand, where their governments have decided to ration care to the elderly.

The President's position on denial of care is abundantly clear as his health care reform encourages rationing healthcare by levying a tax on "Cadillac" insurance plans in an attempt to push as many Americans as possible into Obamacare. Additionally, Obamacare calls for the appointment of a small contingent to make decisions on elderly care following the full implementation.

Obamacare is modeled after England's NHC, only with even more denials of care through age-related treatment exclusions. The NHC is the unquestionable blueprint for Obamacare. However, we do not yet have a complete picture because Obamacare is still holding back many of the details of age-related exclusion.

Does the Congressional health care plan contain access to botox treatments?
We passed it, Nancy, and we are still waiting to see what all is in this healthcare plan.



Ezekiel Emanuel (MD) President Obama's Special Adviser for Health Policy, coincidentally, the brother of Rahm Emanuel), wrote an article in The Lancet (January 2009) entitled, Principles for allocation of scarce medical interventions. Emanuel proposes an ethical basis for rationing healthcare resources based upon age. He calls it the "complete lives system".

In the article, Emanuel expresses the notion that all lives do not have a fundamentally equal value. Dr. Emanuel states that the state has the right and the mandated obligation which espouses the Eugenics belief that certain members of society are more valuable and should be saved at the expense of less valuable individuals. The obvious implication is that the state will decide which people will be condemned to death. Emanuel proposes that the very young and people 75 years of age and over, should not be given life-saving treatments, only comfort care. These statements speak to the likely implementation of post-birth abortion (murder) and physician assisted suicide. Emanuel is one of the front men for Obamacare and his words are to be taken seriously.


Dr. Suzanne Allen is the present head of emergency services at the Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee. Allen told Snopes that "Oh, yes. We are seeing cutbacks throughout the services we provide. For example, we are now having to deal with patients who would normally receive dialysis that can no longer be accepted. In the past, there was always automatic approval under Medicare for anyone who needed dialysis, not anymore." So, what will be their outcome? "They will die soon without dialysis," she stated. In the no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by locally administered Ethics Panels. In the Snopes interview Dr. Allen added that "These Panels will determine whether a patient receives medical treatment or not."

Most Americans are in a great deal of trouble.
Conclusion

It turns out that Sarah Palin was correct, there are indeed death panels in Obamacare. We are in the midst of the implementation of these heinous practices across the nation.

In short, the elderly have a duty to die and to die inexpensively. As the Agenda 21 watchdogs have repeatedly reported, Obama represents global interests that want 90% of us dead. Through the use of abortion, contraception and elderly genocide, can there be any question that our population is being targeted for a British style elderly genocide? I propose that we oppose Obamacare with every means available. Much of the foundations of representative government has been destroyed. However, in this instance, we may wish to pursue making our Congress feel the extreme heat of our wrath, for it is not hyperbole to state that Obamacare is genocidal and we have entered a period of an extreme healthcare holocaust.

Comments

  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 38,925
    edited November -1
    obamacare = O our B basic A administrations M mandate A actually C can A automatically R require E euthanasia....and your elected (by you) are exempt and will enjoy a long and healthy and well paid for (by you) golden years..........ENJOY .. SUCKERS
  • CameroonCameroon Member Posts: 702 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    obama is bad news. So are socialists (democrats).
  • azpowerwagonazpowerwagon Member Posts: 376 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It may be, that in the future, the ruling elite may want to keep gasoline out of the hands of the dying elderly. Some of them may not want to die alone and very slowly. Even a rabbit pushed into a corner will fight. Could make for some interesting 6 o'clock news reports.[:)]
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by azpowerwagon
    It may be, that in the future, the ruling elite may want to keep gasoline out of the hands of the dying elderly. Some of them may not want to die alone and very slowly. Even a rabbit pushed into a corner will fight. Could make for some interesting 6 o'clock news reports.[:)]


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    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got a 30 year old that works as an independent contractor for me first he blew his knee out with a cut tree that turned out to be a missel and took out his knee, first the quacks were going to take it off, then University of Oregon doctors put it back together, it does not end there they gave him the wrong drug and he is going to need a kidney transplant in 2 or 3 years. Then his son was born and the incompetent female doctor did not no how to birth an upside down baby and she pulled him out and screwed him up for life, know this 18 month old needs urgent medical help, Oregon doctors refused to even look at him, he was taken to Childrens hospital in S.F. and they refused to even look at him, on top of all that the aunt that was going to give this family free lodging died. The S.F.Bay area is the most expensive place and completely uncaring area in the U.S., This family is trying their best and the Health Care Holocaust effects them because they aren't illegal so Plyler vs. Doe that protects illegals because our Constitution says all persons does not help white citizens.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,402
    edited November -1
    Have some fun with Obamacare. Spend an hour or so tying up the phone & internet sites. A few thousand extra people doing this should be great fun.
  • riflemikeriflemike Member Posts: 10,599
    edited November -1
    heard he signed up for the bronze plan today CANT be too bad if he signed up
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,402
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by riflemike
    heard he signed up for the bronze plan today CANT be too bad if he signed up


    He had someone sign him up. I sent an e-mail to the White House telling them I would have been MUCH more impressed if he had done it himself WITHOUT any help.
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by riflemike
    heard he signed up for the bronze plan today CANT be too bad if he signed up


    If you are referring to the POTUS signing up, that's just a staged event as he is covered by lifetime military healthcare paid for entirely by the US Taxpayer .... not [}:)] obamacare.
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • llama girlllama girl Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can now understand the talk about the coming Civil War from the ladies at the grocery store.
  • blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    Nice to know you are dead after 60



    Here is an article everyone over the age of sixty should read very carefully. If you are already somewhat skeptical of government's stated role as an impartial arbiter and guarantor of the common good, there is nothing more to be said; you'll take this very seriously. But, if you're someone who has been imbibing the Kool-Aid from the liberal side, and have largely lost your ability to think independently because you automatically accept the "progressive" line verbatim, this is information you simply must verify or debunk, but certainly not ignore. You can't afford to ignore this because it simply doesn't sound like liberal boiler-plate. There is way too much at stake for your future well-being... if you even have much of a future at this point.

    Now, I know there are some out there who will read the first couple paragraphs and, for whatever reason, decide to quit reading. Please read all of this article and contemplate the possible consequences to your future. We're ALL going to have to make an extreme effort to get this madness reversed and we can't afford any ignorance in anyone because they couldn't be bothered to inform themselves...

    Cashu

    ========================


    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/04/the-unfolding-healthcare-holocaust/

    The Unfolding Healthcare Holocaust


    Dave Hodges
    December 4, 2013
    The Common Sense Show

    obmurdersplash

    This article is not just about Obamacare costs and quality of treatment, it is about the healthcare holocaust which commenced on October 1, 2013. Obamacare, or dare I say, Obamacide, represents the biggest threat to the well-being and longevity for you and your loved ones.
    Rule for Thee but Not for Me

    One of the most incredulous aspects of Obamacare enforced, mandatory compliance is that the mandatory provision does not include the legislators who imposed this monstrosity upon us, namely, the Congress. Obamacare is going to prove so substandard that even Obama and his family want nothing to do with it. Are you mad yet? Well, we are just getting started.

    The corporate friends of the President, such as the employees at General Electric, McDonalds, several labor unions, SEIU, the thugs at ACORN and over 1,300 big contributors to the Democratic party will not be forced to participate. The agency which will enforce the penalty phase of Obamacare, the IRS, was recently issued an exemption from participating as well. In short, if your corporation donated heavily to Obama's re-election campaign, an exemption to the mandatory phase of Obamacare has been issued. For everyone else, tough luck, you will be participating in a system which will no doubt hasten the demise of yourself as well as tens of millions of other Americans.

    Obamacare mandates the imposition of 19 new taxes which have never existed before including the tax on a home sale which really has nothing to do with healthcare. And if you use an indoor tanning booth, expect to pay a 10% tax.
    Obama Said "You Can Keep Your Plan"

    Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.
    Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.



    There have already been over five million policy cancellations because employers will not conform to the excessive dictates of Obamacare. The estimates are that at least 16 million Americans will lose their healthcare because of the excessive demands placed upon employers and their health care coverage regulations.
    Obama Said "You Will Save Money On My Plan"

    obamacare free

    Under Department of Health and Human Services poverty level guidelines, if you're a single earning worker making $44,680, or a couple earning a mere $60,520, or a family of four earning a modest income of $92,200, Obama eliminates your subsidy from the government for lower health costs. I do not mean to speak down to anyone, but do you realize that a couple making $60,520 per year is the equivalent of two fast food jobs? These are very modest incomes and the cost aspect of Obamacare should be raising red flags for all middle class income families.

    The Kaiser Foundation published an ObamaCare Cost Calculator which will help you and your family calculate your costs, after subsidies. Please be aware this is a basic estimate for the cost of a "Silver plan" (the second tier plan, as opposed to the basic "Bronze plan" on the Exchange). Please also note that the total cost is greatly affected by a "regional cost factor" (increasing or decreasing the premium by as much as 20%). There are indeed separate plans, consisting of Bronze, Silver, Gold and something called the Cadillac plan. However, there is an absence of information about what each level of the Obamacare plan entails in terms of cost and treatment. One thing is clear, when the health plan is divided up into differing levels of care and cost, there is indeed a problem because it is apparent that people will not be treated equally under Obamacare.

    For a family of four with two dependent children and a $100,000 income, Obamacare insurance costs are nearly $10,000 per year. Such a family could have expected to pay about $500 per month under existing plans such as United Health Care. Under Obamacare, the cost more than doubled.

    For the same family listed above making $150,000 per year, they will pay almost $14,000 per year or 350% more than they would expect to pay in today's health insurance market. This is obviously why the corporate friends of Obama are seeking exemptions from participation. And for those who seek their own exemption through non-participation, they will be fined 2.5% of gross adjusted income and the amount will increase with each successive year that they refuse to participate.
    England's NHS System Is Obamacare's Model

    obama final solution

    In England, Granny must die to save the state money. These words ring true as Dr. Patrick Pullicino discovered that there are approximately 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in a hospital or under NHS care. Around 29% of that number, or about 130,000, were euthanized patients who were on the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP).

    The Pullicino findings are bolstered by the newly discovered heinous compensation practices from the NHS with regard to the LCP. The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial "pathway" to death, as this fact has not been publicly disclosed.

    The undeniable fact is that the British NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage and they wish to free up beds. However, the main motivation for this attack upon humanity is that they are making money by eliminating the lives of the elderly in Britain.

    Pullicino states that NHS doctors have turned the use of a controversial death pathway into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly. Pullicino has extensively researched the issue and asserts that elderly patients, who could live longer, are prematurely placed on the LCP and it has now become an assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway. On average, patients submitting to LCP die within 33 hours.

    For the Seventy-two trusts to receive compensation for euthanizing the elderly, the trust must respond to such questions as how many people had died on the LCP over the past three years and how much money received in that period was attached to goals involving the premature deaths of the elderly.

    A staggering 62% of the trusts admitted that they had received, or will receive, cash rewards for meeting targets (i.e., killing old people) associated with the implementation of the LCP. The other 38% seem to enjoy killing for just the sport of it, as they admitted that they had adopted the LCP without receiving any payments from NHS. This is hell on earth.
    Obamacare Death Panels

    One would think that the Globalists would be ecstatic with the murder of over 50 million fetuses in the last 40 years in the United States. There seems to be a Planned Parenthood abortion factory on every corner attempting to abort every baby that they can get their hands on, but the Eugenics crowd at the United Nations are not satisfied. They want even more death and destruction as they are demanding an even greater reduction in population from an increasing number of segments in our population.

    A top Democrat strategist, Steven Rattner, who served as President Obama's lead auto-industry adviser, wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times entitled "Beyond Obamacare" in which he calls for death panels and that the implementation of these panels are inevitable. Of course, Rattner's comments have been totally ignored by the corporate-controlled media. As was the case with the LPC of the NHC, Rattner supports the rationing of health care for elderly patients, while unequivocally stating that "We need death panels." Rattner also serves on the board the New America Foundation, a George Soros-funded think tank that was instrumental in supporting rationed healthcare. Clearly, this is an Agenda 21 population reduction program. Similar systems exist in many countries, including Australia and New Zealand, where their governments have decided to ration care to the elderly.

    The President's position on denial of care is abundantly clear as his health care reform encourages rationing healthcare by levying a tax on "Cadillac" insurance plans in an attempt to push as many Americans as possible into Obamacare. Additionally, Obamacare calls for the appointment of a small contingent to make decisions on elderly care following the full implementation.

    Obamacare is modeled after England's NHC, only with even more denials of care through age-related treatment exclusions. The NHC is the unquestionable blueprint for Obamacare. However, we do not yet have a complete picture because Obamacare is still holding back many of the details of age-related exclusion.

    Does the Congressional health care plan contain access to botox treatments?
    We passed it, Nancy, and we are still waiting to see what all is in this healthcare plan.



    Ezekiel Emanuel (MD) President Obama's Special Adviser for Health Policy, coincidentally, the brother of Rahm Emanuel), wrote an article in The Lancet (January 2009) entitled, Principles for allocation of scarce medical interventions. Emanuel proposes an ethical basis for rationing healthcare resources based upon age. He calls it the "complete lives system".

    In the article, Emanuel expresses the notion that all lives do not have a fundamentally equal value. Dr. Emanuel states that the state has the right and the mandated obligation which espouses the Eugenics belief that certain members of society are more valuable and should be saved at the expense of less valuable individuals. The obvious implication is that the state will decide which people will be condemned to death. Emanuel proposes that the very young and people 75 years of age and over, should not be given life-saving treatments, only comfort care. These statements speak to the likely implementation of post-birth abortion (murder) and physician assisted suicide. Emanuel is one of the front men for Obamacare and his words are to be taken seriously.


    Dr. Suzanne Allen is the present head of emergency services at the Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee. Allen told Snopes that "Oh, yes. We are seeing cutbacks throughout the services we provide. For example, we are now having to deal with patients who would normally receive dialysis that can no longer be accepted. In the past, there was always automatic approval under Medicare for anyone who needed dialysis, not anymore." So, what will be their outcome? "They will die soon without dialysis," she stated. In the no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by locally administered Ethics Panels. In the Snopes interview Dr. Allen added that "These Panels will determine whether a patient receives medical treatment or not."

    Most Americans are in a great deal of trouble.
    Conclusion

    It turns out that Sarah Palin was correct, there are indeed death panels in Obamacare. We are in the midst of the implementation of these heinous practices across the nation.

    In short, the elderly have a duty to die and to die inexpensively. As the Agenda 21 watchdogs have repeatedly reported, Obama represents global interests that want 90% of us dead. Through the use of abortion, contraception and elderly genocide, can there be any question that our population is being targeted for a British style elderly genocide? I propose that we oppose Obamacare with every means available. Much of the foundations of representative government has been destroyed. However, in this instance, we may wish to pursue making our Congress feel the extreme heat of our wrath, for it is not hyperbole to state that Obamacare is genocidal and we have entered a period of an extreme healthcare holocaust.



    One Friday 2/8/14 on CBS news they had a story of a four year old who's parents had Obama care that had a broken ear drum, it showed the policy that excluded him from treatment.

    I have a guy who works as an independent contractor for me, he buys Obama care for his family, his 18 month old baby fell out of his crib and bit all the way thru his tongue, he was turned down for treatment, in Children's Hospital in Portland OR, then again at Children's Hospital in San Francisco, they were going to take him to Children's Hospital in Oakland CA, but they changed there mind when they found out there was a 13 year old on life support who had a blotched Tonsil operation.

    This baby was screwed up at birth he was pointed feet first and the female doctor did not no how to turn him in the womb, so she strong armed him feet first and screwed him up for life, there is not much you can do in California because you can only sue a doctor for $250,000 and attorneys want 50% of that. This doctor is still practicing, um practicing that is a good word for her she needs more training
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 31,144 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In spite of all the lies, the deception about his true purpose of a single payer system; in spite of the unconstitutional nature of federal health care for all; in spite of rationing, poor service, sky rocketing costs, death panels, the inherent personality disorders of government bureaucrats and demonstrated failure after failure since the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

    We will never get rid of Obama care.

    THE END.
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any law passed by Congress can be nullified by Congress.

    It has happened before.....and can happen again.
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 31,144 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840

    Any law passed by Congress can be nullified by Congress.

    It has happened before.....and can happen again.




    Flat out WILL NOT HAPPEN. THe jerks in control ain't gonna let it happen, the (R) leadership wants to REPLACE Obamacare, replace with it what, Obama care light? Obamacare (R) style, no abortions for white babies. The (R) morons are not going to let a trillion bucks in taxes slip out of their fingers, no freaking way. Once the POWER to tax is in the law it is always going to increase. You will be punished for not obeying by the IRS where you are tried outside the court system guaranteed by our constitution. The IRS has its own courts, outside the law outside the constitution.

    Follow the money, follow the money, FEEL THE POWER corruption brings.
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But don't forget, many years ago England imposed a tax on TEA ~ a drink the colonies 'needed' ~ and that tax didn't turn out so well for England.

    Obamacare is a tax on Americans ........ a tax the vast majority of Americans disagree with.

    Time ..... time is all it takes for things to change. [;)]
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 999 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm with Bruce on this one. The ruling "elite" have acheived an enormous amount of power and control with the ACA and they are not likely to relinquish anything. It was a bad law, poorly written, never properly debated, and the public was overwhelmingly against it yet got saddled with this turd anyways. So much for representitive goverment listening to the public.

    They couldn't get a website up and running without screwing it up (purposely I believe!) yet we are to accept the view that it's whats best for us!!????!!
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 31,144 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840


    But don't forget, many years ago England imposed a tax on TEA ~ a drink the colonies 'needed' ~ and that tax didn't turn out so well for England.

    Obamacare is a tax on Americans ........ a tax the vast majority of Americans disagree with.

    Time ..... time is all it takes for things to change. [;)]
    The huge difference, and one that makes all the difference in the world is; the colonists were being taxed and getting nothing in return. In the case of Obama care/Socialist government, entitled ones, victim status, taker-unproductive citizens they ARE getting something in return for the vote. They get fre stuff at the expense of their neighbors. They like it that way.
  • Removed at users request.Removed at users request. Member Posts: 3,027
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    quote:Originally posted by us55840

    Any law passed by Congress can be nullified by Congress.

    It has happened before.....and can happen again.




    Flat out WILL NOT HAPPEN. THe jerks in control ain't gonna let it happen, the (R) leadership wants to REPLACE Obamacare, replace with it what, Obama care light? Obamacare (R) style, no abortions for white babies. The (R) morons are not going to let a trillion bucks in taxes slip out of their fingers, no freaking way. Once the POWER to tax is in the law it is always going to increase. You will be punished for not obeying by the IRS where you are tried outside the court system guaranteed by our constitution. The IRS has its own courts, outside the law outside the constitution.

    Follow the money, follow the money, FEEL THE POWER corruption brings.


    Perfectly stated. What the democrats have stolen their republican accomplices will kill to keep.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    quote:Originally posted by us55840

    Any law passed by Congress can be nullified by Congress.

    It has happened before.....and can happen again.




    Flat out WILL NOT HAPPEN. THe jerks in control ain't gonna let it happen, the (R) leadership wants to REPLACE Obamacare, replace with it what, Obama care light? Obamacare (R) style, no abortions for white babies. The (R) morons are not going to let a trillion bucks in taxes slip out of their fingers, no freaking way. Once the POWER to tax is in the law it is always going to increase. You will be punished for not obeying by the IRS where you are tried outside the court system guaranteed by our constitution. The IRS has its own courts, outside the law outside the constitution.

    Follow the money, follow the money, FEEL THE POWER corruption brings.


    Perfectly stated. What the democrats have stolen their republican accomplices will kill to keep.
    The same thing was said about "Prohibition"
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 31,144 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    The same thing was said about "Prohibition"


    Apples and oranges. prohibition was a MORAL issue, finally repealed when common sense again took hold.

    It was not a congressional Executive branch tax and power grab. The law of the land is Obama care, it may be modified, it might be altered a bit. Hell, even Obama changes Obama care because he said so. The fact is we are now a Socialist nation, with Socialist medicine. THe concept of Government being involved in medicine from conception to grave is now codified.

    If the republicans, me too morons one and all, do ANYTHING if they regain power in the Senate it will be to shave the sharp edges off of Obamacare to appease the "I VOTE (R)" sheep. They will go on the talking heads Sunday shows and crow how they are concerned about American families and American values. Nothing of true value will happen to restore your personal liberty and freedom.

    They are a dispicable lot, all of them, they make me sick to my stomach listening to their hollow bull crap being repeated time after time.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 21,945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    The same thing was said about "Prohibition"


    Apples and oranges. prohibition was a MORAL issue, finally repealed when common sense again took hold.

    It was not a congressional Executive branch tax and power grab. The law of the land is Obama care, it may be modified, it might be altered a bit. Hell, even Obama changes Obama care because he said so. The fact is we are now a Socialist nation, with Socialist medicine. THe concept of Government being involved in medicine from conception to grave is now codified.

    If the republicans, me too morons one and all, do ANYTHING if they regain power in the Senate it will be to shave the sharp edges off of Obamacare to appease the "I VOTE (R)" sheep. They will go on the talking heads Sunday shows and crow how they are concerned about American families and American values. Nothing of true value will happen to restore your personal liberty and freedom.

    They are a dispicable lot, all of them, they make me sick to my stomach listening to their hollow bull crap being repeated time after time.


    Many on the left truly believe this to be a moral issue as well, bpost. The fact that it is a power-grab and creates a new level of personal control of the individual by the Federal Government is just icing on the cake.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • john6012john6012 Member Posts: 97 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm 70 years old and I thank God I don't have to put up with the mess congress, Obama and Obamacare too long. I'v never seen people divided and angry overall before. Should there be a march on DC, I certainly will be somewhere in their midst. The silent majority have been islet too long and now Obamacare and their senseless rules and regulations are awaking a sleeping giant.
  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,911 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When the minority fails to put up a deal of their own to begin with, they get what the majority decides.
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
  • llama girlllama girl Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just a thought.......
    I in no way wish to diminish the Holocaust, but I think the death toll from this will make it look like a dress rehearsal for the death of America.
    New item to consider;
    I went to a "sports mans" show in NY today on almost every table free to all was a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I overheard a man telling his son 12-14 yrs old to take 1 and read it because he may be the last child to know about it.
    These people were Militant pizzed beyond all reason. They were also making plans and buying all they found that they could use.
    This show was in Western NY at a native casino and you could smoke indoors! Even the NY sheeple are are awake scared and feeling cornered. It ain't gonna be pretty. I saw a bumper sticker that read Support the Constitution invest in lead.
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A former co-worker is from Belgium & stays in contact w/friends there. When discussing this, here was the response:


    "Just read about Belgium and what happened last week - now terminally ill children of any age (even babies) can be euthanized with OK of doctor and guardian OK. In case of orphans I guess it's just the doctors and board. This just happened last week. Euthanasia has been legal in Belgium for a decade at least.

    For all the talk about eugenics - it's happening. Obama is surrounded by people that think the world can not sustain itself with the increase in world population - that we are running out of resources and they way to go is to eliminate the sick and old. "


    That is all I have to report. [}:)][xx(]
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 7,419 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where did my/our country go?? There is no way Obama could have taken us this far down this road we are on in 5 years. To me, that means we were already a long ways down this road when he took office.

    To be this far down the road we are on, those of us who have been saying there really is no difference between D and R have been right. Never have I hated being right as much now.
  • Removed at users request.Removed at users request. Member Posts: 3,027
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dreher
    Where did my/our country go?? There is no way Obama could have taken us this far down this road we are on in 5 years. To me, that means we were already a long ways down this road when he took office.

    To be this far down the road we are on, those of us who have been saying there really is no difference between D and R have been right. Never have I hated being right as much now.


    +1
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,599 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dreher
    Where did my/our country go?? There is no way Obama could have taken us this far down this road we are on in 5 years. To me, that means we were already a long ways down this road when he took office.

    To be this far down the road we are on, those of us who have been saying there really is no difference between D and R have been right. Never have I hated being right as much now.


    It has been slowly creeping up but mostly keep hidden from wide publicity until abortion became legal when opened up the flood gates, expanded to court cases keeping brain dead people on life support, and other measures. Many of these simply enrich the health 'care' industry among others.

    [:(]

    Just think about all the people that protest against the death sentence for convicted criminals that commit horrible crimes ... while supporting abortion of innocent lives.
    [?]
    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    Nice to know you are dead after 60



    Here is an article everyone over the age of sixty should read very carefully. If you are already somewhat skeptical of government's stated role as an impartial arbiter and guarantor of the common good, there is nothing more to be said; you'll take this very seriously. But, if you're someone who has been imbibing the Kool-Aid from the liberal side, and have largely lost your ability to think independently because you automatically accept the "progressive" line verbatim, this is information you simply must verify or debunk, but certainly not ignore. You can't afford to ignore this because it simply doesn't sound like liberal boiler-plate. There is way too much at stake for your future well-being... if you even have much of a future at this point.

    Now, I know there are some out there who will read the first couple paragraphs and, for whatever reason, decide to quit reading. Please read all of this article and contemplate the possible consequences to your future. We're ALL going to have to make an extreme effort to get this madness reversed and we can't afford any ignorance in anyone because they couldn't be bothered to inform themselves...

    Cashu

    ========================


    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/04/the-unfolding-healthcare-holocaust/

    The Unfolding Healthcare Holocaust


    Dave Hodges
    December 4, 2013
    The Common Sense Show

    obmurdersplash

    This article is not just about Obamacare costs and quality of treatment, it is about the healthcare holocaust which commenced on October 1, 2013. Obamacare, or dare I say, Obamacide, represents the biggest threat to the well-being and longevity for you and your loved ones.
    Rule for Thee but Not for Me

    One of the most incredulous aspects of Obamacare enforced, mandatory compliance is that the mandatory provision does not include the legislators who imposed this monstrosity upon us, namely, the Congress. Obamacare is going to prove so substandard that even Obama and his family want nothing to do with it. Are you mad yet? Well, we are just getting started.

    The corporate friends of the President, such as the employees at General Electric, McDonalds, several labor unions, SEIU, the thugs at ACORN and over 1,300 big contributors to the Democratic party will not be forced to participate. The agency which will enforce the penalty phase of Obamacare, the IRS, was recently issued an exemption from participating as well. In short, if your corporation donated heavily to Obama's re-election campaign, an exemption to the mandatory phase of Obamacare has been issued. For everyone else, tough luck, you will be participating in a system which will no doubt hasten the demise of yourself as well as tens of millions of other Americans.

    Obamacare mandates the imposition of 19 new taxes which have never existed before including the tax on a home sale which really has nothing to do with healthcare. And if you use an indoor tanning booth, expect to pay a 10% tax.
    Obama Said "You Can Keep Your Plan"

    Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.
    Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.



    There have already been over five million policy cancellations because employers will not conform to the excessive dictates of Obamacare. The estimates are that at least 16 million Americans will lose their healthcare because of the excessive demands placed upon employers and their health care coverage regulations.
    Obama Said "You Will Save Money On My Plan"

    obamacare free

    Under Department of Health and Human Services poverty level guidelines, if you're a single earning worker making $44,680, or a couple earning a mere $60,520, or a family of four earning a modest income of $92,200, Obama eliminates your subsidy from the government for lower health costs. I do not mean to speak down to anyone, but do you realize that a couple making $60,520 per year is the equivalent of two fast food jobs? These are very modest incomes and the cost aspect of Obamacare should be raising red flags for all middle class income families.

    The Kaiser Foundation published an ObamaCare Cost Calculator which will help you and your family calculate your costs, after subsidies. Please be aware this is a basic estimate for the cost of a "Silver plan" (the second tier plan, as opposed to the basic "Bronze plan" on the Exchange). Please also note that the total cost is greatly affected by a "regional cost factor" (increasing or decreasing the premium by as much as 20%). There are indeed separate plans, consisting of Bronze, Silver, Gold and something called the Cadillac plan. However, there is an absence of information about what each level of the Obamacare plan entails in terms of cost and treatment. One thing is clear, when the health plan is divided up into differing levels of care and cost, there is indeed a problem because it is apparent that people will not be treated equally under Obamacare.

    For a family of four with two dependent children and a $100,000 income, Obamacare insurance costs are nearly $10,000 per year. Such a family could have expected to pay about $500 per month under existing plans such as United Health Care. Under Obamacare, the cost more than doubled.

    For the same family listed above making $150,000 per year, they will pay almost $14,000 per year or 350% more than they would expect to pay in today's health insurance market. This is obviously why the corporate friends of Obama are seeking exemptions from participation. And for those who seek their own exemption through non-participation, they will be fined 2.5% of gross adjusted income and the amount will increase with each successive year that they refuse to participate.
    England's NHS System Is Obamacare's Model

    obama final solution

    In England, Granny must die to save the state money. These words ring true as Dr. Patrick Pullicino discovered that there are approximately 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in a hospital or under NHS care. Around 29% of that number, or about 130,000, were euthanized patients who were on the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP).

    The Pullicino findings are bolstered by the newly discovered heinous compensation practices from the NHS with regard to the LCP. The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial "pathway" to death, as this fact has not been publicly disclosed.

    The undeniable fact is that the British NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage and they wish to free up beds. However, the main motivation for this attack upon humanity is that they are making money by eliminating the lives of the elderly in Britain.

    Pullicino states that NHS doctors have turned the use of a controversial death pathway into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly. Pullicino has extensively researched the issue and asserts that elderly patients, who could live longer, are prematurely placed on the LCP and it has now become an assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway. On average, patients submitting to LCP die within 33 hours.

    For the Seventy-two trusts to receive compensation for euthanizing the elderly, the trust must respond to such questions as how many people had died on the LCP over the past three years and how much money received in that period was attached to goals involving the premature deaths of the elderly.

    A staggering 62% of the trusts admitted that they had received, or will receive, cash rewards for meeting targets (i.e., killing old people) associated with the implementation of the LCP. The other 38% seem to enjoy killing for just the sport of it, as they admitted that they had adopted the LCP without receiving any payments from NHS. This is hell on earth.
    Obamacare Death Panels

    One would think that the Globalists would be ecstatic with the murder of over 50 million fetuses in the last 40 years in the United States. There seems to be a Planned Parenthood abortion factory on every corner attempting to abort every baby that they can get their hands on, but the Eugenics crowd at the United Nations are not satisfied. They want even more death and destruction as they are demanding an even greater reduction in population from an increasing number of segments in our population.

    A top Democrat strategist, Steven Rattner, who served as President Obama's lead auto-industry adviser, wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times entitled "Beyond Obamacare" in which he calls for death panels and that the implementation of these panels are inevitable. Of course, Rattner's comments have been totally ignored by the corporate-controlled media. As was the case with the LPC of the NHC, Rattner supports the rationing of health care for elderly patients, while unequivocally stating that "We need death panels." Rattner also serves on the board the New America Foundation, a George Soros-funded think tank that was instrumental in supporting rationed healthcare. Clearly, this is an Agenda 21 population reduction program. Similar systems exist in many countries, including Australia and New Zealand, where their governments have decided to ration care to the elderly.

    The President's position on denial of care is abundantly clear as his health care reform encourages rationing healthcare by levying a tax on "Cadillac" insurance plans in an attempt to push as many Americans as possible into Obamacare. Additionally, Obamacare calls for the appointment of a small contingent to make decisions on elderly care following the full implementation.

    Obamacare is modeled after England's NHC, only with even more denials of care through age-related treatment exclusions. The NHC is the unquestionable blueprint for Obamacare. However, we do not yet have a complete picture because Obamacare is still holding back many of the details of age-related exclusion.

    Does the Congressional health care plan contain access to botox treatments?
    We passed it, Nancy, and we are still waiting to see what all is in this healthcare plan.



    Ezekiel Emanuel (MD) President Obama's Special Adviser for Health Policy, coincidentally, the brother of Rahm Emanuel), wrote an article in The Lancet (January 2009) entitled, Principles for allocation of scarce medical interventions. Emanuel proposes an ethical basis for rationing healthcare resources based upon age. He calls it the "complete lives system".

    In the article, Emanuel expresses the notion that all lives do not have a fundamentally equal value. Dr. Emanuel states that the state has the right and the mandated obligation which espouses the Eugenics belief that certain members of society are more valuable and should be saved at the expense of less valuable individuals. The obvious implication is that the state will decide which people will be condemned to death. Emanuel proposes that the very young and people 75 years of age and over, should not be given life-saving treatments, only comfort care. These statements speak to the likely implementation of post-birth abortion (murder) and physician assisted suicide. Emanuel is one of the front men for Obamacare and his words are to be taken seriously.


    Dr. Suzanne Allen is the present head of emergency services at the Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee. Allen told Snopes that "Oh, yes. We are seeing cutbacks throughout the services we provide. For example, we are now having to deal with patients who would normally receive dialysis that can no longer be accepted. In the past, there was always automatic approval under Medicare for anyone who needed dialysis, not anymore." So, what will be their outcome? "They will die soon without dialysis," she stated. In the no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by locally administered Ethics Panels. In the Snopes interview Dr. Allen added that "These Panels will determine whether a patient receives medical treatment or not."

    Most Americans are in a great deal of trouble.
    Conclusion

    It turns out that Sarah Palin was correct, there are indeed death panels in Obamacare. We are in the midst of the implementation of these heinous practices across the nation.

    In short, the elderly have a duty to die and to die inexpensively. As the Agenda 21 watchdogs have repeatedly reported, Obama represents global interests that want 90% of us dead. Through the use of abortion, contraception and elderly genocide, can there be any question that our population is being targeted for a British style elderly genocide? I propose that we oppose Obamacare with every means available. Much of the foundations of representative government has been destroyed. However, in this instance, we may wish to pursue making our Congress feel the extreme heat of our wrath, for it is not hyperbole to state that Obamacare is genocidal and we have entered a period of an extreme healthcare holocaust.



    Obama represents the black cry babies of the U.S. I have never heard of a native American reporting that archeologist reported at the time of contact, [when Europeans came to this content] in the U.S. their were 35 million Native Americans, before they started using the bogus census the real Native American [not whites with an identity crisis was 1.5 million.

    What about the missionary crowd money barons who came to the Hawaiian Islands stole the land, and when the true owners of the land the Hawaiians complained they were told by the moneyed aristocracy they could be preform slave labor on the Plantation an chopping sugar cane.

    That did not work so the bought slaves from China who brought the Chinese Leper disease turning them into monsters with grotesque caricatures of everything human, with scalding tears where eyes had been, hands that have been rotted off. Lepers were marched on board a little steamer Noeau deported to the leper Island of Molokai the hand written pathetic letters to the Board of Health protesting expulsion were laughed at.
  • dreherdreher Member Posts: 7,419 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Mother always told me to look for the good in any situation. I guess I wont need as much retirement income as I thought!! That is a good thing, right??[:D]
  • blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dreher
    My Mother always told me to look for the good in any situation. I guess I wont need as much retirement income as I thought!! That is a good thing, right??[:D]

    I took what WW touted as Progressive verbatim wacked out b. s. and retired for 90 days at 60, I soon found out retirement for some is a death sentence, in 1997 I went back to work and I now have a new date for retirement when my age will be 90 in 2027.
  • e3mrke3mrk Member Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • llama girlllama girl Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Addendum to previous rant(mine).
    Stay at home until they come for you and take an honor guard. I'm sure you can find an Honor Guard of Vets with alleged PTSD to stand with us.
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by llama girl
    Addendum to previous rant(mine).
    Stay at home until they come for you and take an honor guard. I'm sure you can find an Honor Guard of Vets with alleged PTSD to stand with us.


    If you can find any Vets, that is. There is speculation that the Obama VA Health Care System is attempting left-handed euthanasia by using deliberate misdiagnosis, and by the inappropriate and unnecessary prescription of dangerous drugs (one of which has been described in medical circles, as producing a form of drug-induced Rabies).

    And Stanley Milgram is vindicated, in spades.
  • cbyerlycbyerly Member Posts: 703 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are sure a lot of * about the Affordable Care Act until they need health care services. There are a lot of people at retirement age that can retire now and still get the care they need and can afford. They no longer have to work all their lives to pay private health care premiums.
  • wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 999 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The real fun has yet to begin.
  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cbyerly
    There are sure a lot of * about the Affordable Care Act until they need health care services. There are a lot of people at retirement age that can retire now and still get the care they need and can afford. They no longer have to work all their lives to pay private health care premiums.


    Please provide a link to this insurance you claim people can afford. I am at retirement age along with many of my friends. Most can't afford Obamacare. Both sons and both daughters insurance went up considerably for less coverage and higher deductibles.
  • blogdog37blogdog37 Member Posts: 372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    Nice to know you are dead after 60



    Here is an article everyone over the age of sixty should read very carefully. If you are already somewhat skeptical of government's stated role as an impartial arbiter and guarantor of the common good, there is nothing more to be said; you'll take this very seriously. But, if you're someone who has been imbibing the Kool-Aid from the liberal side, and have largely lost your ability to think independently because you automatically accept the "progressive" line verbatim, this is information you simply must verify or debunk, but certainly not ignore. You can't afford to ignore this because it simply doesn't sound like liberal boiler-plate. There is way too much at stake for your future well-being... if you even have much of a future at this point.

    Now, I know there are some out there who will read the first couple paragraphs and, for whatever reason, decide to quit reading. Please read all of this article and contemplate the possible consequences to your future. We're ALL going to have to make an extreme effort to get this madness reversed and we can't afford any ignorance in anyone because they couldn't be bothered to inform themselves...

    Cashu

    ========================


    http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/04/the-unfolding-healthcare-holocaust/

    The Unfolding Healthcare Holocaust


    Dave Hodges
    December 4, 2013
    The Common Sense Show

    obmurdersplash

    This article is not just about Obamacare costs and quality of treatment, it is about the healthcare holocaust which commenced on October 1, 2013. Obamacare, or dare I say, Obamacide, represents the biggest threat to the well-being and longevity for you and your loved ones.
    Rule for Thee but Not for Me

    One of the most incredulous aspects of Obamacare enforced, mandatory compliance is that the mandatory provision does not include the legislators who imposed this monstrosity upon us, namely, the Congress. Obamacare is going to prove so substandard that even Obama and his family want nothing to do with it. Are you mad yet? Well, we are just getting started.

    The corporate friends of the President, such as the employees at General Electric, McDonalds, several labor unions, SEIU, the thugs at ACORN and over 1,300 big contributors to the Democratic party will not be forced to participate. The agency which will enforce the penalty phase of Obamacare, the IRS, was recently issued an exemption from participating as well. In short, if your corporation donated heavily to Obama's re-election campaign, an exemption to the mandatory phase of Obamacare has been issued. For everyone else, tough luck, you will be participating in a system which will no doubt hasten the demise of yourself as well as tens of millions of other Americans.

    Obamacare mandates the imposition of 19 new taxes which have never existed before including the tax on a home sale which really has nothing to do with healthcare. And if you use an indoor tanning booth, expect to pay a 10% tax.
    Obama Said "You Can Keep Your Plan"

    Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.
    Obama told America that we could keep our present medical plan. That was a lie.



    There have already been over five million policy cancellations because employers will not conform to the excessive dictates of Obamacare. The estimates are that at least 16 million Americans will lose their healthcare because of the excessive demands placed upon employers and their health care coverage regulations.
    Obama Said "You Will Save Money On My Plan"

    obamacare free

    Under Department of Health and Human Services poverty level guidelines, if you're a single earning worker making $44,680, or a couple earning a mere $60,520, or a family of four earning a modest income of $92,200, Obama eliminates your subsidy from the government for lower health costs. I do not mean to speak down to anyone, but do you realize that a couple making $60,520 per year is the equivalent of two fast food jobs? These are very modest incomes and the cost aspect of Obamacare should be raising red flags for all middle class income families.

    The Kaiser Foundation published an ObamaCare Cost Calculator which will help you and your family calculate your costs, after subsidies. Please be aware this is a basic estimate for the cost of a "Silver plan" (the second tier plan, as opposed to the basic "Bronze plan" on the Exchange). Please also note that the total cost is greatly affected by a "regional cost factor" (increasing or decreasing the premium by as much as 20%). There are indeed separate plans, consisting of Bronze, Silver, Gold and something called the Cadillac plan. However, there is an absence of information about what each level of the Obamacare plan entails in terms of cost and treatment. One thing is clear, when the health plan is divided up into differing levels of care and cost, there is indeed a problem because it is apparent that people will not be treated equally under Obamacare.

    For a family of four with two dependent children and a $100,000 income, Obamacare insurance costs are nearly $10,000 per year. Such a family could have expected to pay about $500 per month under existing plans such as United Health Care. Under Obamacare, the cost more than doubled.

    For the same family listed above making $150,000 per year, they will pay almost $14,000 per year or 350% more than they would expect to pay in today's health insurance market. This is obviously why the corporate friends of Obama are seeking exemptions from participation. And for those who seek their own exemption through non-participation, they will be fined 2.5% of gross adjusted income and the amount will increase with each successive year that they refuse to participate.
    England's NHS System Is Obamacare's Model

    obama final solution

    In England, Granny must die to save the state money. These words ring true as Dr. Patrick Pullicino discovered that there are approximately 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in a hospital or under NHS care. Around 29% of that number, or about 130,000, were euthanized patients who were on the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP).

    The Pullicino findings are bolstered by the newly discovered heinous compensation practices from the NHS with regard to the LCP. The majority of NHS hospitals in England are being given financial rewards for placing terminally-ill patients on a controversial "pathway" to death, as this fact has not been publicly disclosed.

    The undeniable fact is that the British NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage and they wish to free up beds. However, the main motivation for this attack upon humanity is that they are making money by eliminating the lives of the elderly in Britain.

    Pullicino states that NHS doctors have turned the use of a controversial death pathway into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly. Pullicino has extensively researched the issue and asserts that elderly patients, who could live longer, are prematurely placed on the LCP and it has now become an assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway. On average, patients submitting to LCP die within 33 hours.

    For the Seventy-two trusts to receive compensation for euthanizing the elderly, the trust must respond to such questions as how many people had died on the LCP over the past three years and how much money received in that period was attached to goals involving the premature deaths of the elderly.

    A staggering 62% of the trusts admitted that they had received, or will receive, cash rewards for meeting targets (i.e., killing old people) associated with the implementation of the LCP. The other 38% seem to enjoy killing for just the sport of it, as they admitted that they had adopted the LCP without receiving any payments from NHS. This is hell on earth.
    Obamacare Death Panels

    One would think that the Globalists would be ecstatic with the murder of over 50 million fetuses in the last 40 years in the United States. There seems to be a Planned Parenthood abortion factory on every corner attempting to abort every baby that they can get their hands on, but the Eugenics crowd at the United Nations are not satisfied. They want even more death and destruction as they are demanding an even greater reduction in population from an increasing number of segments in our population.

    A top Democrat strategist, Steven Rattner, who served as President Obama's lead auto-industry adviser, wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times entitled "Beyond Obamacare" in which he calls for death panels and that the implementation of these panels are inevitable. Of course, Rattner's comments have been totally ignored by the corporate-controlled media. As was the case with the LPC of the NHC, Rattner supports the rationing of health care for elderly patients, while unequivocally stating that "We need death panels." Rattner also serves on the board the New America Foundation, a George Soros-funded think tank that was instrumental in supporting rationed healthcare. Clearly, this is an Agenda 21 population reduction program. Similar systems exist in many countries, including Australia and New Zealand, where their governments have decided to ration care to the elderly.

    The President's position on denial of care is abundantly clear as his health care reform encourages rationing healthcare by levying a tax on "Cadillac" insurance plans in an attempt to push as many Americans as possible into Obamacare. Additionally, Obamacare calls for the appointment of a small contingent to make decisions on elderly care following the full implementation.

    Obamacare is modeled after England's NHC, only with even more denials of care through age-related treatment exclusions. The NHC is the unquestionable blueprint for Obamacare. However, we do not yet have a complete picture because Obamacare is still holding back many of the details of age-related exclusion.

    Does the Congressional health care plan contain access to botox treatments?
    We passed it, Nancy, and we are still waiting to see what all is in this healthcare plan.



    Ezekiel Emanuel (MD) President Obama's Special Adviser for Health Policy, coincidentally, the brother of Rahm Emanuel), wrote an article in The Lancet (January 2009) entitled, Principles for allocation of scarce medical interventions. Emanuel proposes an ethical basis for rationing healthcare resources based upon age. He calls it the "complete lives system".

    In the article, Emanuel expresses the notion that all lives do not have a fundamentally equal value. Dr. Emanuel states that the state has the right and the mandated obligation which espouses the Eugenics belief that certain members of society are more valuable and should be saved at the expense of less valuable individuals. The obvious implication is that the state will decide which people will be condemned to death. Emanuel proposes that the very young and people 75 years of age and over, should not be given life-saving treatments, only comfort care. These statements speak to the likely implementation of post-birth abortion (murder) and physician assisted suicide. Emanuel is one of the front men for Obamacare and his words are to be taken seriously.


    Dr. Suzanne Allen is the present head of emergency services at the Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee. Allen told Snopes that "Oh, yes. We are seeing cutbacks throughout the services we provide. For example, we are now having to deal with patients who would normally receive dialysis that can no longer be accepted. In the past, there was always automatic approval under Medicare for anyone who needed dialysis, not anymore." So, what will be their outcome? "They will die soon without dialysis," she stated. In the no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by locally administered Ethics Panels. In the Snopes interview Dr. Allen added that "These Panels will determine whether a patient receives medical treatment or not."

    Most Americans are in a great deal of trouble.
    Conclusion

    It turns out that Sarah Palin was correct, there are indeed death panels in Obamacare. We are in the midst of the implementation of these heinous practices across the nation.

    In short, the elderly have a duty to die and to die inexpensively. As the Agenda 21 watchdogs have repeatedly reported, Obama represents global interests that want 90% of us dead. Through the use of abortion, contraception and elderly genocide, can there be any question that our population is being targeted for a British style elderly genocide? I propose that we oppose Obamacare with every means available. Much of the foundations of representative government has been destroyed. However, in this instance, we may wish to pursue making our Congress feel the extreme heat of our wrath, for it is not hyperbole to state that Obamacare is genocidal and we have entered a period of an extreme healthcare holocaust.




    Welcome back, W.W. I am sure the posts will be more interesting know. Is Obumacare really genocidal, an extreme healthcare holocaust, is it really a hyperbole.
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