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After America Comes The North Alliance?
It won't be long before it's a reality and Obama is getting ready with his pen to sign executive orders to legalize all illegals soon just watch the NWO at work!
Next will be The UN moving into Detroit to guarantee water for the poor and homeless! Just watch!
serf
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/26/united-nations-detroit-water-shutoffs_n_5533901.html
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http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/18585-after-america-comes-north-america-gen-petraeus-boasts
The three "democracies" in North America, he said, need a "common vision" so the "region" can "meet its full potential." While NAFTA laid the foundation, Petraeus said what is required now is "a comprehensive and interlocking program of policies and projects that draws together not only the three countries' national governments, but also their state and provincial authorities, private sectors, and civil societies." Why such a program was supposedly needed was not immediately clear, but it is happening quickly.
Virtually every realm of government policy, though, should be continental in scope, Petraeus suggested. He called for "continental cooperation" in "security, commerce, and protection of the environment." The continent must also have a "unified energy strategy," Petraeus said. Even foreign policy should entail a "common approach," and crime fighting should feature enhanced "North American coordination," the globalist operative declared. He concluded by calling on Obama to work with the government leaders of Mexico and Canada to "advance the shared future North America needs."
The North American Union (NAU), of course, has been a top goal of senior globalists in all three countries for over a decade. The supposed brainchild of CFR operative Robert Pastor, often dubbed the "Father of the NAU," U.S. diplomatic cables from the embassy in Ottawa leaked by WikiLeaks offered a great deal of insight into the truly radical plot. Among other topics, the document, signed by the U.S. ambassador to Canada at the time, discusses ways of getting around national constitutions and even the possibility of an eventual "monetary union" across the continent.
Next will be The UN moving into Detroit to guarantee water for the poor and homeless! Just watch!
serf
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/26/united-nations-detroit-water-shutoffs_n_5533901.html
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http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/18585-after-america-comes-north-america-gen-petraeus-boasts
The three "democracies" in North America, he said, need a "common vision" so the "region" can "meet its full potential." While NAFTA laid the foundation, Petraeus said what is required now is "a comprehensive and interlocking program of policies and projects that draws together not only the three countries' national governments, but also their state and provincial authorities, private sectors, and civil societies." Why such a program was supposedly needed was not immediately clear, but it is happening quickly.
Virtually every realm of government policy, though, should be continental in scope, Petraeus suggested. He called for "continental cooperation" in "security, commerce, and protection of the environment." The continent must also have a "unified energy strategy," Petraeus said. Even foreign policy should entail a "common approach," and crime fighting should feature enhanced "North American coordination," the globalist operative declared. He concluded by calling on Obama to work with the government leaders of Mexico and Canada to "advance the shared future North America needs."
The North American Union (NAU), of course, has been a top goal of senior globalists in all three countries for over a decade. The supposed brainchild of CFR operative Robert Pastor, often dubbed the "Father of the NAU," U.S. diplomatic cables from the embassy in Ottawa leaked by WikiLeaks offered a great deal of insight into the truly radical plot. Among other topics, the document, signed by the U.S. ambassador to Canada at the time, discusses ways of getting around national constitutions and even the possibility of an eventual "monetary union" across the continent.
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The Neuro, the Nuro, the Noro, the Nurar, the Noram?
What will we call the new currency?
The Neuro, the Nuro, the Noro, the Nurar, the Noram?
I'm guessing it would be called the Amero.
The NWO or whatever will hit the wall in Nov 2014 when the progressive Left gets its lunch handed to it, and then in 2016 when a conservative will take over leadership in the White House and our country gets back on track...and this NW0 crap gets put back in the box....or whatever[;)]
What makes you think it's just the left doing all this crap?
What will we call the new currency?
The Neuro, the Nuro, the Noro, the Nurar, the Noram?
Try Shekel.............[:D]
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
The NWO or whatever will hit the wall in Nov 2014 when the progressive Left gets its lunch handed to it, and then in 2016 when a conservative will take over leadership in the White House and our country gets back on track...and this NW0 crap gets put back in the box....or whatever[;)]
What makes you think it's just the left doing all this crap?
Very good question!
quote:Originally posted by wifetrained
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
The NWO or whatever will hit the wall in Nov 2014 when the progressive Left gets its lunch handed to it, and then in 2016 when a conservative will take over leadership in the White House and our country gets back on track...and this NW0 crap gets put back in the box....or whatever[;)]
What makes you think it's just the left doing all this crap?
And what "crap are you talking about...or is it just the usual antigov't rant? Can you not see what the "progressive" left is doing to this country? Time to turn the bums out IMO and get the country back on the tracks. But if you buy this usual serf NWO silliness, not much I can do[;)]
It's been obvious what the left has been doing to this country for decades. It's equally obvious that the so called "conservative" right has done very little in that same time frame to either stop or reverse the damage done. Representative government died long ago, we simply have the illusion of choice. It's not enough to simply vote for someone because they have an "R" next to their name. Both parties crap all over the constitution when they see fit and nothing is done about it. Both parties stack committees, the courts, etc simply based on ideology, you know party hacks! And it has nothing to do with doing what's right, it's about control.
We have the absolute worse president and administration in the history of the republic and the voting public is responsible for it, not once but twice. And why is that Gary?, because the public is stupid plain and simple. They prove it every election cycle with incumbent's re-elected 90%+ of the time. It's no longer a viable option that we vote for the lessor of two evils since both evils seem to be cut from the same cloth. It's that kind of muddled thinking that keeps this country swirling down the crapper.
The NWO or whatever will hit the wall in Nov 2014 when the progressive Left gets its lunch handed to it, and then in 2016 when a conservative will take over leadership in the White House and our country gets back on track...and this NW0 crap gets put back in the box....or whatever[;)]
I am not so sure. This is why the left had infiltrated the right with neo cons. They stand ready to do the bidding of the far left under the right's banner.
FAKE CONSERVATIVES#8232;GREATEST HOAX OF THE 21ST CENTURY#8232;#8232;
By: SARTRE#8232;
#8232;Propaganda has become the normal diet for what passes as today's popular political discourse. Facts now have pliable reality, as language is twisted to fit the circumstance. Linguistic analysis is practiced with a purity of the social relativist. Timeless standards, once unassailable and founded in inimitable certainty, are routinely discarded for the flavor of the day truth, as the situation demands. The hijacking and insidious appropriation of the monogram - CONSERVATIVE - its authentic philosophy, tradition and meaning, is systemically betrayed. At the core of the phony falsifiers is the conduct to deceive, with the motive to control and rule.#8232;#8232;Those who hail and embrace the term neoconservatism, and adopt their dishonesty, are Counterfeit Conservatives. If you regard this assessment as harsh, consider the tortured spin and distortion from a card carrying member of the Socialist Kennedy clan.#8232;#8232;An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: "The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s" (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).#8232;#8232;Is this pseudo academic anti-intellectual or just a fool? Evidently, he is both! Compare that interpretation with the record and its origin.#8232;#8232;Neoconservatism is a conservative movement with origins in the Old Left that has been very influential in formulating hawkish foreign policy stances by the United States. The intellectual founders of neoconservatism, Daniel Bell, Nathan Glazer, Irving Howe, and most prominently Irving Kristol, were all alumni of City College of New York, known then as the "Harvard of the proletariat" due to its highly selective admissions criteria and free education. They emerged from the Old Left and retained these origins in the factional New York intellectual debates of the 1930s. The Great Depression radicalized the student body, mostly children of Eastern European immigrants on the edge of poverty, who were introduced to the new and revolutionary ideas of socialism and communism.#8232;#8232;Contrast the collectivism of the neoconservatism with the insights of the Six Canons of Conservative Thought from Russell Kirk.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;<<? 1) "Belief in a transcendent order, or body of natural law, which rules society as well as conscience."#8232;#8232;2) "Affection for the proliferating variety and mystery of human existence, as opposed to the narrowing uniformity, egalitarianism, and utilitarian aims of most radical systems;"#8232;#8232;3) "Conviction that civilized society requires orders and classes, as against the notion of a 'classless society'."#8232;#8232;4) "Persuasion that freedom and property are closely linked: separate property from private possession, and the Leviathan becomes master of all."#8232;#8232;5) "Faith in prescription and distrust of 'sophisters, calculators, and economists' who would reconstruct society upon abstract designs."#8232;#8232;6) "Recognition that change may not be salutary reform: hasty innovation may be a devouring conflagration, rather than a torch of progress."#8232;#8232;? >>#8232;#8232;#8232;Then review The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk and the following:Ten Conservative Principles (1993)#8232;#8232;<<?#8232;#8232;<<?#8232;First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order.#8232;Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention and continuity.#8232;Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle and prescription.#8232;Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence.#8232;Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety.#8232;Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.#8232;Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.#8232;Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism.#8232;Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraint upon power and human passions.#8232;Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.? >>#8232;#8232;? >>#8232;#8232;#8232;Can any honest and truthful traditionalist espouse the policies that neoconservatives maintain and promote, and still retain a valid claim for calling themselves a Conservative? Only the prevaricator of deceit, as defined by Merriam Webster - a former liberal espousing political conservatism - would insist on a perpetual hoax that insults one's intelligence.#8232;#8232;Clear Thinking has a code meaning of "Drink the Kool Aid". Newspeak has become the News Corp message, with brainwashing the objective. William Kristol's Supreme Federal Conservatism is a revived LBJ "Great Society". The Charles Krauthammer's vision of a global state-capitalism is actually elite tyranny sustained by a democratic mob. And Norman Podhoretz's "World War IV" is nothing more than a mirror image of the "Likudniks" that lust for their own empire. These NeoCons are bogus frauds. Their values, goals and methods do not remotely resemble traditional conservative principles.#8232;#8232;Understand clearly and unequivocally, neoconservatism is the tormentor of Western Civilization. NeoCons are the enemy, and seek a barbarism equal to the most hardened FDR New Deal "collectivist". Individual Liberty is unpalatable to the counterfeit conservative. Their style of trickery is revolting, for it rests upon a repudiation of traditional values and morality. Just look at their heroes. An excellent example of their integrity and ethics is Pentagon adviser Richard Perle. He briefed an investment seminar on ways to profit from conflicts in Iraq and North Korea just weeks after he received a top-secret government briefing on the crisis in the two countries.#8232;#8232;Remember that Perle is a "Scoop Jackson" DemocRAT, and has more in common with Diane Feinstein and her profiteering hubby Richard Blum, then Barry Goldwater. The latest in a string of plum defense jobs snared by URS, the senator husband's company was awarded an Army contract worth up to $600 million, to help with troop mobilization, weapons systems training and anti-terrorism.#8232;#8232;But we are assured that in order to be a "Clear Thinker", we need to dismiss any thoughts that the Perle prototype NeoCon, could possibly be a double-crosser. Oh, such pristine logic . . . the factor weaves and how pure one must become to live the lie of a neoconservative. How far these renegades have wandered from Edmund Burke.#8232;#8232;Bill O'Reilly is just a symbol of the symptom. His latest outburst, this time addressed directly at Neil Boortz: "VICIOUS SON OF A *!", typifies the response of those aspirants to the Schlesinger class, at JFK Harvard school of tolerant government. Boortz exposed the "cloudy sophist" for the sham he represents: Boortz asks: "What part of freedom of association don't you understand?" Mr. O'Reilly . . . doesn't have a clue, nor do the rest of the NeoCons.#8232;#8232;When Rupert Murdoch testifies before congress to secure News Corp's latest acquisition - Direct TV - don't be duped into thinking you will be availed with conservative content. If you think the Weekly Standard or the National Review is conservative, you are sipping that tainted drink and swallowing a fake line. Where are the Kirk Canons and Conservative Principles in any of the NeoCons positions? Limited government, Bill of Right protections, a Republic governance - are all absent from the neoconservatives. Comprehending the nature of the hoax requires an understanding of real conservatism. Surely, those `Clear Thinking Americans' will follow their cue and parrot from the TelePrompTer. Will you be one of them?#8232;#8232;#8232;"Published originally at EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this notice and hyperlink intact."#8232;Mail this article to a friend(s) in two clicks!? ?#8232;#8232;SARTRE is the pen name of a reformed, former political operative. This pundit's formal instruction in History, Philosophy and Political Science served as training for activism, on the staff of several politicians and in many campaigns. He is the content liaison for Ether Zone.#8232;#8232;SARTRE can be reached at: BATR@sartre.info We invite you to visit his website at: Breaking All The Rules#8232;#8232;Published in the May 9, 2003 issue of? Ether Zone.#8232;Copyright c 1997 - 2003 Ether Zone. ? ?#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;http://www.antiwar.com/orig/butler1.html#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;America's Foreign Policy and the Sword of Empire#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;by Amir Butler#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;December 6, 2003#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;On November 6th, George W. Bush announced that America, through it's interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan was leading a "global democratic revolution". That he should have made such remarks on the eve of Leon Trotsky's birthday - the architect of "global socialist revolution" - was of course just coincidence. However, the similarities between Trotsky's idea that socialism should be spread at the barrel of a gun and the idea that democracy can be forced upon the Muslim world through violent occupation and threat of invasion are obvious.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;Contemporary American foreign policy is Trotsky's revenge. The neoconservative movement that holds Washington in its thrall is itself merely a warmed-up version of Trotsky's Fourth International. As Michael Lind wrote in Britain's The New Statesman (April 7th, 2003), the neocons are "products of the largely Jewish-American Trotskyist movement of the 1930s and 1940s, which morphed into anti-communist liberalism between the 1950s and 1970s and finally into a kind of militaristic and imperial right with no precedents in American culture or political history." If the neoconservative vision of a "democratic revolution" in the Muslim world mirrors Trotsky's equally flawed vision of a permanent socialist revolution, then will America's reaction to democracy in Iraq mirror Brezhnev's doctrine of "limited sovereignty"?#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;In early 1968, the Czech Communist Party under Alexander Dubcek attempted to introduce a series of reforms. In May of that same year, Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev invaded Czechoslovakia, justifying the invasion by claiming that "Czechoslovakia's detachment from the socialist community would have come into conflict with it's own vital interests and would have been detrimental to other socialist states". In other words, the invasion was to protect socialism as an ideology. Once a nation chose socialism, the soviet state could never allow it to turn back. A nation's sovereignty was limited by a tight ideological straitjacket.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;As America attempts to extricate herself from the Iraqi disaster, it has promised a free election next year. If the Iraqi people are given a true democracy, then America must face the bitter prospect that, finally able to choose their political destiny, Iraq may choose a government that is not malleable to American interests. As both Shi'ite and Sunni Iraqis mobilize politically, it seems certain that the government ushered to power will actually reflect more the wishes and aspirations of Baghdad and Basrah, than the Beltway. If that happens, will America accept that the people have spoken - albeit with a possibly anti-American and anti-Israeli voice - or will America invoke its own Brezhnev Doctrine of Limited Sovereignty and demand Iraqis adopt America's export-grade democracy.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;Yet seeking to prevent terrorism and promote democracy by vetoing the people's democratic aspirations is, like the strengthening of the West's totalitarian "allies" in the region, a self-fulfilling prophecy. On the day that Pearl Harbour was bombed, ex-President Herbert Hoover warned that as long as America continues "putting pins in rattlesnakes" it is only natural that one day those rattlesnakes would bite. 19 of those rattlesnakes attacked America on September 11; these same rattlesnakes kill and attack American soldiers every day in Iraq.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;As the neoconservatives push America towards war, they charge those who argue for realism in American foreign policy with "appeasement". Yet, it is not appeasement to recognize that one's actions and policies are counter-productive to one's stated objectives: fighting terror. There are one billion Muslims in the world who adhere to a religion that has withstood a thousand years of attack by ideological and military opponents. It will take more than the demands of a cabal of intellectuals in Washington to transform the Muslim world.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;A secure and prosperous future for America will not be found in "permanent democratic revolution"; "benevolent hegemony"; "creative destruction" or any of the other neocon code-words for empire. Since World War II, the United States has intervened in over twenty countries, with no democracies resulting.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;The solution lies in a return to the foreign doctrine articulated by George Washington in his farewell address. The United States should seek, "peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none". Likewise, John Quincy Adams, the sixth President of the United States articulated, Americas "goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own".#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;It is these "entangling alliances" that have led to so much hostility against America in the Muslim world; particularly America's alliance with Israel and its interference in Muslim societies. Rather than seeking honest friendship with the Islamic World, the American administration has entered into Faustian pacts with the totalitarian governments of the region in the interests of "regional security" and has attempted to forcefully spread its export-version of democracy to a people who just want to be left alone.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;America fails to see where the real battle for security must be fought. Fighting off the hordes of rattlesnakes is not the answer; nor is "liberating" Kabul or Baghdad. Rather America must liberate Washington from those who are, through their self-destructive idealism and zeal for democratic revolutions, perpetually sticking pins in the tails of these rattlesnakes. America's foreign policy should once again be the shield of the Republic, and not the sword of Empire.#8232;#8232;#8232;#8232;