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Gaza Cam Live

FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
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    gary wraygary wray Member Posts: 4,663
    edited November -1
    Looks like they are eating pretty good in Gaza! So "wheres the beef?" If they would spend some time working on peace with Israel and less of firing rockets at them, things could get much better for them. But as long as they have a terrorist organization in the lead of the their efforts, things will not improve for them IMO. Interestingly, the folks in Gaza HAVE their homeland and they are screwing it up with Hamas running the show. And I see they are eating Hebrew food...looks like Yiddish to me on that box in the background. If they could just get along with the Israeli's they could all benefit!
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
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    Well it worked for Israel. Israel was founded by terrorists & almost every leader of Israel has been a member of one of those terrorist organizations. Israel continues to act in the same manner as the Germans did when people they called terrorists killed German soldiers.
    They are currently killing over thirty civilians for every Israeli death.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    does never again, ring a bell to you? the whole world sat on their * when the jews and a lot of others were killed for no other reason than their faith,life style or where they came from. if someone tries pop two thousand rocket into your living room you may change your tune. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    does never again, ring a bell to you? the whole world sat on their * when the jews and a lot of others were killed for no other reason than their faith,life style or where they came from. if someone tries pop two thousand rocket into your living room you may change your tune. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.




    Main articles: List of Irgun attacks and Killings and massacres
    June 30, 1924. According to Israeli journalists Shlomo Nakdimon and Shaul Mayzlish, Dutch Jew Jacob Isra?l de Haan was assassinated by Avraham Tehomi on the orders of Haganah leader Yitzhak Ben-Zvi[29] for his anti-Zionist political activities and contacts with Arab leaders.[30]
    1937-1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.
    July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
    July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
    November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
    1944-1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
    1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
    July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people - 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
    1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
    October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
    April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
    July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
    December 1947 - March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
    '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
    January 5-6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
    April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
    September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    does never again, ring a bell to you? the whole world sat on their * when the jews and a lot of others were killed for no other reason than their faith,life style or where they came from. if someone tries pop two thousand rocket into your living room you may change your tune. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.



    Main articles: List of Irgun attacks and Killings and massacres
    June 30, 1924. According to Israeli journalists Shlomo Nakdimon and Shaul Mayzlish, Dutch Jew Jacob Isra?l de Haan was assassinated by Avraham Tehomi on the orders of Haganah leader Yitzhak Ben-Zvi[29] for his anti-Zionist political activities and contacts with Arab leaders.[30]
    1937-1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.
    July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
    July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
    November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
    1944-1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
    1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
    July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people - 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
    1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
    October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
    April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
    July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
    December 1947 - March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
    '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
    January 5-6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
    April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
    September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations


    Your most recent 'evidence' dates to 1948 (66 years ago). The Irgun that you mention time and again were hunted down and destroyed by the Israeli's themselves because of their actions. The Lehi organization would be not unlike our own Founders in that they were fighting for a state of their own free from rule by others, ironically, the British.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    i thing we should take all the israelies in and settle them on the mexican border,then the arab jewish problem would be solved(the israelies are very good at protecting their borders) we would have a guarded border and saving all the money we give to the israelies and palirats.i would love to see what the world arabs would do if they had to totally support the palirats. and when the israelies leave return the land to pre-israelie conditions. according to T>s> uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    does never again, ring a bell to you? the whole world sat on their * when the jews and a lot of others were killed for no other reason than their faith,life style or where they came from. if someone tries pop two thousand rocket into your living room you may change your tune. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.


    Never again ........Sounds like JDL slop. Their color is red and their symbol is the clenched fist of Communism.
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    i thing we should take all the israelies in and settle them on the mexican border,then the arab jewish problem would be solved(the israelies are very good at protecting their borders) we would have a guarded border and saving all the money we give to the israelies and palirats.i would love to see what the world arabs would do if they had to totally support the palirats. and when the israelies leave return the land to pre-israelie conditions. according to T>s> uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.


    Settle the Israeli pukes on the Mexican border and you'll soon see Christians and all other non Jews in that area driven from their homes to be replaced by Jew squatters. As grounds for their aggression......We would be presented with a recently found and translated dead sea scroll saying that God gave them our Southwest.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    give me a break, what have the arabs of the world done for their poor palirat brothers, have they taken them in and given them land and support? the answer is NO and with all the land the arabs have in that part of the world you would think they could spare enough for the palirats if that was their end game, but they need the palirats to bleed and get killed for their twisted goals. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
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    [/quote]
    Your most recent 'evidence' dates to 1948 (66 years ago). The Irgun that you mention time and again were hunted down and destroyed by the Israeli's themselves because of their actions. The Lehi organization would be not unlike our own Founders in that they were fighting for a state of their own free from rule by others, ironically, the British.
    [/quote]

    The "most recent" would have occured today of course. The point is that Israel was founded by terrorists. They were hardly hunted down as they became the leaders of Israel. It just goes to show that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    The Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut (or "Freedom") party, which led to today's Likud party.[9] Likud has led or been part of most Israeli governments since 1977.
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by gruntled

    Your most recent 'evidence' dates to 1948 (66 years ago). The Irgun that you mention time and again were hunted down and destroyed by the Israeli's themselves because of their actions. The Lehi organization would be not unlike our own Founders in that they were fighting for a state of their own free from rule by others, ironically, the British.
    [/quote]

    The "most recent" would have occured today of course. The point is that Israel was founded by terrorists. They were hardly hunted down as they became the leaders of Israel. It just goes to show that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

    The Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel's right-wing Herut (or "Freedom") party, which led to today's Likud party.[9] Likud has led or been part of most Israeli governments since 1977.
    [/quote]


    According to the British of the time, so was the United States!
    Todays actons by the Israeli's is nothing more than a reaction to the neighbor that won't stop throwing hand grenades over the fence and into their yard. If the Palistinians want peace, all they have to do is quit trying to kill Israeli's.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    For ninety years the Zionists have operated under the theory that if they kill enough of their nighbors they can have peace. The problem with that is that only creates more enemies.
    If your neighbor murdered your grandfather, grandmother, father, mother, brother, sister, wife, husband, son, daughter, uncle, aunt, cousin or friends would you want to live in peace with that neighbor especially if that neighbor stole that property from you in the first place?
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    Originally posted by eastbank
    does never again, ring a bell to you? the whole world sat on their * when the jews and a lot of others were killed for no other reason than their faith,life style or where they came from. if someone tries pop two thousand rocket into your living room you may change your tune. according

    Main articles: List of Irgun attacks and Killings and massacres
    June 30, 1924. According to Israeli journalists Shlomo Nakdimon and Shaul Mayzlish, Dutch Jew Jacob Isra?l de Haan was assassinated by Avraham Tehomi on the orders of Haganah leader Yitzhak Ben-Zvi[29] for his anti-Zionist political activities and contacts with Arab leaders.[30]
    1937-1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.
    July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
    July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
    November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
    1944-1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
    1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
    July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people - 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
    1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
    October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
    April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
    July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
    December 1947 - March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
    '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
    January 5-6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
    April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
    September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations


    Your most recent 'evidence' dates to 1948 (66 years ago). The Irgun that you mention time and again were hunted down and destroyed by the Israeli's themselves because of their actions. The Lehi organization would be not unlike our own Founders in that they were fighting for a state of their own free from rule by others, ironically, the British.


    The Irgun was run by the terrorist and murderer Begin who went on to lead Israel. If the Jews can make a buck by whining about the 1940's and long dead perpetrators others should be able to confront Jews with their own guilt from that period.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
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    That somehow reminds me of the Beverly Hillbillies. Oh yes, when Jed tells Jethro, "Don't help me boy."
    Just as we shouldn't blame all Germans for the Holocaust, just the Nazis & those that helped them we shouldn't blame all Jews or even all Israelis for the Nakba. Just the Zionists & the so-called Christians who support them.
    The "Christian" fanatics are actually the worst. They call Moslems fanatics but they support Israel because they believe the return of the Jews will bring about the end of the human race. How much more of a nutcase can you be than to WANT to bring about the end of the world?
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    it,s quite simple,if the pali,s quit punching the israelies in the face,the israelies will quit kicking the palis in the testicals. do you remember who started this round of killing? according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    if you poke a hornets nest with a stick, you had better be ready to get stung, every fifth grader knows that. but it seems the pali,s don,t. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    it,s quite simple,if the pali,s quit punching the israelies in the face,the israelies will quit kicking the palis in the testicals. do you remember who started this round of killing? according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.



    Do you really believe that if the Palestinians stop fighting the Zionists will stop enlargeing their squatter camps?
    How do you separate "this round". Back & forth incidents occur & then at some point the Israelis decide the other side has started it & they launch another offensive.
    They have been doing this for ninety years & they still maintain that all they have to do is kill just a few more & it will be over.
    All they achieve is to create more enemies. What do you say about people who keep doing the same thing over & over & expect a different outcome each time?
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gruntled
    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    it,s quite simple,if the pali,s quit punching the israelies in the face,the israelies will quit kicking the palis in the testicals. do you remember who started this round of killing? according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.



    Do you really believe that if the Palestinians stop fighting the Zionists will stop enlargeing their squatter camps?
    How do you separate "this round". Back & forth incidents occur & then at some point the Israelis decide the other side has started it & they launch another offensive.
    They have been doing this for ninety years & they still maintain that all they have to do is kill just a few more & it will be over.
    All they achieve is to create more enemies. What do you say about people who keep doing the same thing over & over & expect a different outcome each time?


    I'd say the Palestinians aren't too dang bright, cuz they keep doin' the same thing over and over and Israel hands them their * in a bag every time.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Brings to mind the purported reply by a Chinese diplomat when someone asked him about the lopsided Chinese/Japanese loses. "Pretty soon, no more Japanese."
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    please explain to me why the arab countries do not give the palirats land for their own state-country? can it be that they don,t care about the palirats at all and just use them as a excuse for getting rid of israel. brings to mind when a german general was said to ask a swiss diplomat how many men could the swiss could put into the field in 24 hours and the diplomat said two hundred and fifty thousand and the german general said, if we invade your country with five hundred thousand men what would you do,the diplomat is to have said we will all shoot twice and go home. and large numbers do not always carry the day, the japanese were in china for years and the chinese army was only able to harass the japanese army untill the japanese army had to fight the allies. if the japanese had not bitten off more than they could chew, china would be flying the meatball flag today. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    please explain to me why the arab countries do not give the palirats land for their own state-country? can it be that they don,t care about the palirats at all and just use them as a excuse for getting rid of israel. brings to mind when a german general was said to ask a swiss diplomat how many men could the swiss could put into the field in 24 hours and the diplomat said two hundred and fifty thousand and the german general said, if we invade your country with five hundred thousand men what would you do,the diplomat is to have said we will all shoot twice and go home. and large numbers do not always carry the day, the japanese were in china for years and the chinese army was only able to harass the japanese army untill the japanese army had to fight the allies. if the japanese had not bitten off more than they could chew, china would be flying the meatball flag today. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.


    Your dehumanizing term " Palirats " brings to mind the Nazi propaganda movie that depicted Jews as rats in the gutter. Palestinian Muslims and Christians may not be Jews but they are people. I'm sure that you have a " Final Solution " for the Palestinian problem. It's sad when the Jews mirror Nazi behavior and pass Nazi laws. I'd like to see the Jewish restitution crowd do some Palestinian restitution to mirror what they're doing for Jews.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    if i could do that( find a solution)i would, but if kerry can,t i,m sure i could not. the arab s seem to like it that the palirats belive the crap they feed them and think they care about what happens to them and do not mind that the palirats are doing most of the dieing. my plan for peace, first to stop firing rockets and making peace with israel and for the other arab states to give the palirats land to build their own state. with no war with israel all the money could be used to make life easier for the palirats. but we all know the arabs will never agree to that. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t gie a crap crowd.
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    gary wraygary wray Member Posts: 4,663
    edited November -1
    The problem in Gaza is really quite simple....if Hamas would agree to recognize Israel as the nationstate of the Jews and change their constitution which calls for the destruction of Israel, the situation could be settled rather quickly IMO. But until they change their views, it will continue to fester. I think Abbas and Fatah would settle but the Hamas crazies just will not go along. The ball has always been in the arabs court and they have always......fumbled. I did listen to the leader of Hamas talking on 60m the other night from his plush apt in Qutar and when asked to recognize Israel's right to exist, he could not bring himself to say it, That is the fundemental problem IMO and no excusing from any anti-Jews in this thread nonwithstanding. And Gaza is not "occupied" no matter how many Hamas believers and sympathizers say it....Israel turned it over to them years ago and they have done nothing but screw it up....they have their nationstate already but don't know how to run it.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    BINGO! according to T.S uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
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    The answer has been around for a long time. It requires Israel to live up to the agreements they made at Camp David & Oslo.
    Remember when peace was at hand & the Zionists murdered theirown Prime Minister to derail the peace process? The next time peace reared it's ugly head Sharon led his infamous assault on the Dome of the Rock.
    There has been a very fair & comprehensive plan on the table since 2002. It is a breakthrough sugestion by Saudi Arabia. Nearly everyone hailed it but Netanyahu refused to discuss it because he said it is not the result of "negotiations". For the Palistiniasns to try to "negotiate" with Israel would be like a bank teller trying to negotiate with an armed robber.
    Israel has always dictated the terms it would agree to & told them to take it or leave it.
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    Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭
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    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    thats what hamas wants you to see and feel, thats why they put/keep there rockets and other explosives in civilian areas(rockets were found in U.N. schools and safety compounds),knowing full well that they will get killed when the israelies return fire. would you stay in a area that you knew was going to be bombed, after you were warned by leaflets and calls that a strike was on its way, unless you were forced to stay? and we are not talking about a few rockets,but thousands and many border attacks comming from the tunnels that are not there. and i have seen the pictures of dead israelie children killed in markets,pizza parlors and schools by hamas bombs in israel,the difference is the palirats put their children in front of the fighting and the israelis don,t. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.



    Posting a picture of an Israeli flag with a swastika on it certainly makes it appear that you do.
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    Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.



    Posting a picture of an Israeli flag with a swastika on it certainly makes it appear that you do.


    Well I don't. I just call a spade a spade. I think Israel should come out with what it is doing and admit their tactics are just like that of the Nazi's. Now that is not to say they are or are not justified but lets face the truth here. I don't care what the truth is but I want it un filtered minus PR baloney.
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    Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭
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    I thought the flag was damn funny to be honest. But then I think the Germans were defending themselves during WWII also.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    the germans reaped what they sowed and so will hamas,its just to bad the palirats have cast their lot with hamas. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    the germans reaped what they sowed and so will hamas,its just to bad the palirats have cast their lot with hamas. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.


    Since the Zionist leadership in Palestine offered to side with the Germans in both World Wars in exchange for Jewish autonomy in Palestine..........the flag is quite accurate.
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    NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.



    Posting a picture of an Israeli flag with a swastika on it certainly makes it appear that you do.


    Well I don't. I just call a spade a spade. I think Israel should come out with what it is doing and admit their tactics are just like that of the Nazi's. Now that is not to say they are or are not justified but lets face the truth here. I don't care what the truth is but I want it un filtered minus PR baloney.


    How do you figure? The Nazi's went in for wholesale slaughter of civilians (the blitz of London, the siege of Stalingrad, the Warsaw ghettos, to name a few) and tried to completely eradicate the Jewish people from Europe. Can you show me where the Israeli's have intentionally targeted civilians for the sake of targeting civilians? Sure, some civilians are being killed, but it's because Hamas is using them as shields and hiding their munitions in places with a high civilian concentration. Can you show me where the Israeli's have vowed to completely eradicate the 'Palestinians'? No such plan exists. The reverse, however is not true. Hamas has in it's charter to eradicate Israel as a nation and also regularly targets civilians. BTW, your little flag isn't funny, it's more than a little disgusting.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
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    You don't consider what is going on now to be the "wholesale slaughter of civilians"?
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.



    Posting a picture of an Israeli flag with a swastika on it certainly makes it appear that you do.


    Well I don't. I just call a spade a spade. I think Israel should come out with what it is doing and admit their tactics are just like that of the Nazi's. Now that is not to say they are or are not justified but lets face the truth here. I don't care what the truth is but I want it un filtered minus PR baloney.


    How do you figure? The Nazi's went in for wholesale slaughter of civilians (the blitz of London, the siege of Stalingrad, the Warsaw ghettos, to name a few) and tried to completely eradicate the Jewish people from Europe. Can you show me where the Israeli's have intentionally targeted civilians for the sake of targeting civilians? Sure, some civilians are being killed, but it's because Hamas is using them as shields and hiding their munitions in places with a high civilian concentration. Can you show me where the Israeli's have vowed to completely eradicate the 'Palestinians'? No such plan exists. The reverse, however is not true. Hamas has in it's charter to eradicate Israel as a nation and also regularly targets civilians. BTW, your little flag isn't funny, it's more than a little disgusting.



    When Israel was illegally created, the Jew Slavs who were armed with stolen U.S. weapons descended on the unarmed Palestinian Christians and Muslims. The Christian and Muslim victims of the Begin Irgun, Battalion 502 and other Jewish terrorist groups were innocent farmers and farm laborers. The Palestinian victims were buried alive, hanged, shot, put to death with the knife and the survivors driven from their homes. Their homes complete with the contents were then stolen by Jew squatters.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    if israel went in for wholesale slaughter there would not be any palirats left.its simple stay where rockets are fired or stored and you run the risk of being killed. when you vote in people that only need you to die for them to show pictures to the press of your lifeless bodies,i guess that what you get. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,825 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Video is replaying stuff! haven't seen a freshly killed palirat for a while now. Cease fire sucks[V]
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.



    Posting a picture of an Israeli flag with a swastika on it certainly makes it appear that you do.


    Well I don't. I just call a spade a spade. I think Israel should come out with what it is doing and admit their tactics are just like that of the Nazi's. Now that is not to say they are or are not justified but lets face the truth here. I don't care what the truth is but I want it un filtered minus PR baloney.


    How do you figure? The Nazi's went in for wholesale slaughter of civilians (the blitz of London, the siege of Stalingrad, the Warsaw ghettos, to name a few) and tried to completely eradicate the Jewish people from Europe. Can you show me where the Israeli's have intentionally targeted civilians for the sake of targeting civilians? Sure, some civilians are being killed, but it's because Hamas is using them as shields and hiding their munitions in places with a high civilian concentration. Can you show me where the Israeli's have vowed to completely eradicate the 'Palestinians'? No such plan exists. The reverse, however is not true. Hamas has in it's charter to eradicate Israel as a nation and also regularly targets civilians. BTW, your little flag isn't funny, it's more than a little disgusting.



    When Israel was illegally created, the Jew Slavs who were armed with stolen U.S. weapons descended on the unarmed Palestinian Christians and Muslims. The Christian and Muslim victims of the Begin Irgun, Battalion 502 and other Jewish terrorist groups were innocent farmers and farm laborers. The Palestinian victims were buried alive, hanged, shot, put to death with the knife and the survivors driven from their homes. Their homes complete with the contents were then stolen by Jew squatters.


    And they are still a bunch of murdering terrorists.
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    CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,825 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
    quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    The real reason the pals don't just relocate and that the other arab states are fine with GAZA existing as it does is everyone on the arab side is waiting for fortunes to change.

    Right now the Pals are playing the victim. I also believe that Israel has in the past and during this incursion tried to kill as many of the pals as they can, old men women and children. If they could wipe them all out I think they would. The motivation I believe is the realization that in the future the arabs will outbreed and over run Israel no matter how well the Jewish State's Military performs.

    What I don't understand is why is the world freaking out now? Israel is doing what it's always done before. As for Hamas's Rockets and the fact they don't do much damage well ok, why keep firing them into Israel then?

    I don't really have a dog in this fight, I think what the Israelis do is horrible and that both sides are obnoxious. I also note no Jews are ever filmed cutting anyone's head off with a Steak knife. I just turn the nightly news off if I see any of this situation on there.

    I could not avoid the photo posted on face book of a father holding his dead toddler by the arms with un imaginable grief in his face while you could clearly see the entire brain of the child and back of the head was missing. Whatever some arabs do cannot ever make that right.



    Posting a picture of an Israeli flag with a swastika on it certainly makes it appear that you do.


    Well I don't. I just call a spade a spade. I think Israel should come out with what it is doing and admit their tactics are just like that of the Nazi's. Now that is not to say they are or are not justified but lets face the truth here. I don't care what the truth is but I want it un filtered minus PR baloney.


    How do you figure? The Nazi's went in for wholesale slaughter of civilians (the blitz of London, the siege of Stalingrad, the Warsaw ghettos, to name a few) and tried to completely eradicate the Jewish people from Europe. Can you show me where the Israeli's have intentionally targeted civilians for the sake of targeting civilians? Sure, some civilians are being killed, but it's because Hamas is using them as shields and hiding their munitions in places with a high civilian concentration. Can you show me where the Israeli's have vowed to completely eradicate the 'Palestinians'? No such plan exists. The reverse, however is not true. Hamas has in it's charter to eradicate Israel as a nation and also regularly targets civilians. BTW, your little flag isn't funny, it's more than a little disgusting.



    When Israel was illegally created, the Jew Slavs who were armed with stolen U.S. weapons descended on the unarmed Palestinian Christians and Muslims. The Christian and Muslim victims of the Begin Irgun, Battalion 502 and other Jewish terrorist groups were innocent farmers and farm laborers. The Palestinian victims were buried alive, hanged, shot, put to death with the knife and the survivors driven from their homes. Their homes complete with the contents were then stolen by Jew squatters.


    And they are still a bunch of murdering terrorists.


    I do not expect an honest answer but I'm just Curious, are you a Muslim? or just a reader of "The International Jew" in case you are not aware he did apologize!
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
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