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Cuomo to Sign SAFE ACT 2 ??

nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
edited November 2014 in Politics
Cuomo To Sign SAFE ACT 2 Into Law If He Gets Reelected

Posted by Tony Oliva on Oct 13, 2014 in Elections, Email Featured, Featured, Legislation, Tyranny, video | 11 comments





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If Governor Cuomo is reelected the framework is all ready in place for passage of SAFE ACT 2. While the Cuomo administration is hesitant to refer to it under that name during an election cycle, it will still be one of the first things he does upon his new term even if he has to manipulate the legislative process again in order to ram it through.

Here are the 10 key points of SAFE ACT 2 that will punish law abiding citizens, legal businesses and in general diminish the sparse amount of liberty that remains in the increasingly appropriate named "Empire State". My commentary italicized.


1. Safe Storage - Requires that weapons be stored with a safety locking device or in a safe storage depository when left outside the immediate possession or control of the owner or other lawful possessor. Failure to do so will result in a Class A misdemeanor. This includes houses without children and as such only serves to delay the ability to defend yourself against home invaders.




2. Microstamping - Requires all semiautomatic pistols manufactured or delivered to any licensed dealer in NYS to be capable of producing a unique alpha-numeric or geometric code on at least two locations on each cartridge case expended from such pistol. Class D felony if you "willfully" deface microstamping component. The problems with this are many. First the technology is not practical (read: it doesn't work) and as such this is akin to requiring firearms to shoot pixie dust, since it can't it would make all guns illegal. Secondly, like most gun control measures, criminals who are using guns to commit felonies are just going to ignore this. Thirdly the cost of retrofitting all the guns in New York would unfairly fall on the citizen. Finally, even if the technology WAS viable, and criminals DID follow it, all they would have to do is use a revolver and make sure to destroy the shells later.

3. Fifty Caliber Ban - Bans the possession, sale or transfer of 50-Caliber or larger weapons. Permits grandfathering so long as they are then registered, a repeat of the Assault Weapson Ban from SAFE ACT 1.

4. Gun Dealer Insurance - Requires the imposition of restrictive business practices, recordkeeping and reporting for lawful gun dealers including requiring that every dealer carry insurance coverage against liability (at least $1 million per incident) for damage to property and for injury or death of any person resulting from the sale, delivery, lease, or transfer of a firearm, rifle or shotgun. On top of being a ridiculous punitive measure against firearm businesses, the costs will ultimately fall on the law abiding consumer.

5. Prohibits the sale or transfer in NY of guns that are not child proof - Prohibits the sale or transfer of a "child operated firearm" to another person. Defines "child operated firearm" as a pistol or revolver which does not contain a childproofing device, which would prevent an average five-year-old from operating it. This one is so amorphous that is shouldn't even be considered law. No doubt gun controllers would use a 5 year old prodigy that could unravel the Gordian Knot.

6. 30 Day Limit on Gun Purchases - - Prohibits a person from purchasing more than one firearm from a dealer within a 30-day- period. Prohibits a dealer from selling or transferring a firearm to a person who has purchased or taken possession of a firearm within the previous 30 days. Requires dealers to request approval for sale from the Division of Criminal Justice Services. Class A misdemeanor. Why can't I exercise my right as freely as I desire? This is like saying one can only pray on Sundays, or limiting the number of newspapers a person can read in a day. On top of the civil rights violations, the added logjam for businesses will slow commerce, raise prices and once again the law abiding consumer is left footing the bill.

7. 10 Day Waiting Period on Gun Purchases - Prohibits a person from taking possession of any firearm from a dealer unless 10 days have elapsed from the date the dealer initiated the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) background check of the purchaser and has received notice that the purchaser has passed all background checks required by federal, state and local law. Violators would be subject to class A misdemeanor. For victims of violent rape and murders who could have used a gun to stop their attacker, I doubt they appreciate the 10 days that cost them their lives. This notion of a "cooling off" period is more gun controller tripe used to engender fear in the populace that there is a run on gun shops by angry mobs looking to shoot someone down. It just isn't true.

8.Ammunition Coding - Requires every manufacturer to code any ammunition for handguns and assault weapons. "Coded ammunition" means a bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile. Most bullet makers aren't going to make special New York bullets so the availability of ammuntion in the Empire State will decrease dramatically. But hey, that's pretty much the goal gun controllers are aiming for.

9. Mandatory Insurance For Gun Owners - Require persons owning a firearm (not defined in the bill), prior to ownership or within 30 days of enactment for current owners, to obtain a liability insurance policy with a limit of at least $250,000. Failure to do so would result in the immediate revocation of the firearm owner's registration, license and any other privilege to own a firearm. Just look at the wording, PRIVILEGE. That's what gun controllers think that the right to keep and bear arms is.a privilege. It's not. It's a RIGHT. And there is no voter insurance, because if there was a lot of Obama voters would owe me money.

10. Reduces Pistol Permits from 5 years to 2 years - Requires that all pistol permit licenses expire every two years. Note, pistol permits in New York were LIFETIME before the first SAFE ACT. The Act made it 5 years and SAFE ACT 2 is looking to make it 2 years. This is a money making scheme aimed to cash in while stripping the rights of the citizens. A pro gun sheriff might retire and a gun control sheriff might take his place, in that case, when people pay the non refundable fee to renew their permit they can simply be told no. It gives the state more opportunity to deny rights to its citizens while still making a fast buck.

There are some other points, expanding on penalties of SAFE ACT 1 and broadening terms therein but this is the meat and potatoes of what a Cuomo reelection will look like for the citizens of New York. Apparently, SAFE Act 1 was only the prologue and SAFE Act 2 will be the further advancement of the radical gun control ideology that Gov Cuomo holds so dear.

To allow Gov. Cuomo to be reelected will be an injustice of the highest order. But it is not only an injustice to New Yorkers but for all gun owners and those who believe in liberty in America.

To quote the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. (he himself a victim of gun control like the SAFE Act when he was denied a carry permit):


"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."


It is for this reason that, even though I am a Pennsylvanian, I am taking a personal interest in supporting the man who has vowed to repeal the SAFE Act, not expand upon it.

Republican candidate for Governor, Rob Astorino:



Astorino also tapped Sheriff Chris Moss to be his running mate. Moss is the President of the New York Sheriff's Association and has been fighting the SAFE Act since day one, going so far as filing an amicus brief in a federal challenge to the SAFE Act.

You can learn more about Astorino from his campaign website: robastorino.com

In this David vs Goliath story it is still a tough road to go since Cuomo's war chest is being filled by the likes of Billionaire Michael Bloomberg, Shannon Watts, Sarah Brady and their gun control philistines as well as Cuomo raising substantial sums outside New York from Hollywood elitists. If you want to help combat the SAFE Act in all its iterations and keep it from spreading to other states you can do so by go going to:

Kick Cuomo Out

and support candidate Astorino.




This may very well be the most important New York gubernatorial election in your lifetime.help make sure the right man is elected.

Read more at http://bulletsfirst.net/2014/10/13/cuomo-sign-safe-act-2-law-gets-reelected/#bIW6TPEvFeOJRzxZ.99
Abort Cuomo

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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
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    move into gun friendly pa., just inside the border and screw new york. according to T.S. uncle albert,one of the i don,t give a crap crowd.
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
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    One solution to oppressive governments run them out of office, (good luck with that one)- or- .... refusal to comply, open disobedience to illegal unconstitutional restrictions.
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    This is what Northerners elect to office. And they call us Southerners stupid.

    Hilarious!
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
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    No need to comment.......I see you are from Georgia and probably would not understand !

    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    This is what Northerners elect to office. And they call us Southerners stupid.

    Hilarious!
    Abort Cuomo
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    e3mrke3mrk Member Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think things will change when The Police cant get Ammunition or replacement Guns because They don't fit the Laws.
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    TfloggerTflogger Member Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by e3mrk
    I think things will change when The Police cant get Ammunition or replacement Guns because They don't fit the Laws.


    The laws only apply to us little people, the drones of the state will get all the weapons they think they need.
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Tflogger
    quote:Originally posted by e3mrk
    I think things will change when The Police cant get Ammunition or replacement Guns because They don't fit the Laws.


    The laws only apply to us little people, the drones of the state will get all the weapons they think they need.


    The old Blackwater crew will have everything they need to control us. Homeland Security will have their private army well equipped to handle everything but the inner cities which they won't have the guts to enter.
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    Wild TurkeyWild Turkey Member Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭
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    Has there been a Supreme Court test of the first law?

    Seems to me there's several points that SCOTUS would overturn.
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    November 4th will tell the future of New York. The GUN world better watch NY the days after this election carefully !
    Abort Cuomo
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    DaveJDaveJ Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
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    Bottom line...........anything that passes will only be applied to legal gun owners. The criminal population of N.Y. will continue to have access to anything they want. The N.Y. politicians don't have the guts to go in after them and confiscate the stuff.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    This is what Northerners elect to office. And they call us Southerners stupid.

    Hilarious!


    Way to support fellow believers in the Constitution.

    Do you think that there is not a crew in Ga working to enact theses very same kind of laws?

    BTW....I do not think Southerners are stupid....you have put that label on yourself.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
    Bottom line...........anything that passes will only be applied to legal gun owners. The criminal population of N.Y. will continue to have access to anything they want. The N.Y. politicians don't have the guts to go in after them and confiscate the stuff.


    The SAFE Act has made criminals out of law abiding citizens already.

    A damned shame.[:(!]
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
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    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    This is what Northerners elect to office. And they call us Southerners stupid.

    Hilarious!


    Way to support fellow believers in the Constitution.

    Do you think that there is not a crew in Ga working to enact theses very same kind of laws?

    BTW....I do not think Southerners are stupid....you have put that label on yourself.
    If the moochers ever manage to enact that sort of nonsense in Georgia, I will MOVE instead of whining about it. A place inhabited by that sort of majority is not worth living in, anyway.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    This is what Northerners elect to office. And they call us Southerners stupid.

    Hilarious!


    Way to support fellow believers in the Constitution.

    Do you think that there is not a crew in Ga working to enact theses very same kind of laws?

    BTW....I do not think Southerners are stupid....you have put that label on yourself.
    If the moochers ever manage to enact that sort of nonsense in Georgia, I will MOVE instead of whining about it. A place inhabited by that sort of majority is not worth living in, anyway.


    I do not hear or see whining. I see people organizing to get a crappy law repealed.

    Funny, the way you talk (type), I did not figure you for someone that would cut and run when the going got tough. Is that what you'll do?
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    TfloggerTflogger Member Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    This is what Northerners elect to office. And they call us Southerners stupid.

    Hilarious!


    Way to support fellow believers in the Constitution.

    Do you think that there is not a crew in Ga working to enact theses very same kind of laws?

    BTW....I do not think Southerners are stupid....you have put that label on yourself.
    If the moochers ever manage to enact that sort of nonsense in Georgia, I will MOVE instead of whining about it. A place inhabited by that sort of majority is not worth living in, anyway.

    This is my home and I will fight for it. If you choose to scream like a little girl and run away, that is your choice and your legacy.
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
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    People organizing to get a crappy law repealed? Good luck with that. The time to organize is on election day.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    People organizing to get a crappy law repealed? Good luck with that. The time to organize is on election day.


    We are working on that, too.

    Every time you divide gun owners....north/south.....black/white....rich/poor....no matter.....you make us weaker as a whole.

    Others, from other states, are lending their support....monetary and morale. Why not you? Surely, you don't want this crap to leak out of here to other states.
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
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    GUNTECH - you are so correct. United we stand ! Divided we fall !

    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    People organizing to get a crappy law repealed? Good luck with that. The time to organize is on election day.


    We are working on that, too.

    Every time you divide gun owners....north/south.....black/white....rich/poor....no matter.....you make us weaker as a whole.

    Others, from other states, are lending their support....monetary and morale. Why not you? Surely, you don't want this crap to leak out of here to other states.
    Abort Cuomo
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    savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,471 ✭✭✭✭
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    I wish you all luck on Nov 4 but from the polls I'm seeing it doesn't look good.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    Thank you. I do a lot of talking to 'on the fence' folks. I'm actually getting pretty good at it!

    Hopefully it will cause them think a bit.
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    People organizing to get a crappy law repealed? Good luck with that. The time to organize is on election day.


    We are working on that, too.

    Every time you divide gun owners....north/south.....black/white....rich/poor....no matter.....you make us weaker as a whole.

    Others, from other states, are lending their support....monetary and morale. Why not you? Surely, you don't want this crap to leak out of here to other states.
    I'd truly like to, but we've been spending quite a bit of our spare time here beating the bushes to try to wake up as many folks as possible to the truth about the lying Obama sycophant Michelle Nunn and the Jason Carter farce.

    I apologize for being snide with you guys. I'm well aware that you're grossly outnumbered by the parasites up there, need all the help you can get.

    Good luck.
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    CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    People organizing to get a crappy law repealed? Good luck with that. The time to organize is on election day.


    We are working on that, too.

    Every time you divide gun owners....north/south.....black/white....rich/poor....no matter.....you make us weaker as a whole.

    Others, from other states, are lending their support....monetary and morale. Why not you? Surely, you don't want this crap to leak out of here to other states.
    I'd truly like to, but we've been spending quite a bit of our spare time here beating the bushes to try to wake up as many folks as possible to the truth about the lying Obama sycophant Michelle Nunn and the Jason Carter farce.

    I apologize for being snide with you guys. I'm well aware that you're grossly outnumbered by the parasites up there, need all the help you can get.

    Good luck.

    I don't think Carter has a snowballs chance. Nunn (Sam's daughter, not our esteemed Moderator) is riding on Daddy's coattails and even though he was a Dem, he was a friend to the Armed Forces and many of our Georgia industries. (And a fellow Yellow Jacket, but so was Jimmy Carter so that only goes so far) I voted for Sam on at least one occasion, but as I recall, he was unopposed most of the time.

    So she is riding his goodwill to good effect , and her opponent is hindered by his last name as his cousin was Sonny Purdue who was an acceptable Governor, but many of the base are still upset with the whole state flag situation from 2004 as well as a few other tax deals he introduced. It will be a very tight Tuesday night next week. Loudermilk is unopposed, However I would have rather had Bob Barr in his place but since there was no Dem on the ticket and 6 GOP entries I would bet good money that a large number of the takers voted in the Republican runoff to defeat Bob since they really had nothing to vote on that day. (16k votes made the difference)

    I voted last week. I'll be escorting MrsFun and oldest daughter on Saturday. It has been steady all week.
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    4205raymond4205raymond Member Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭
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    Been in NY since 1961. I have a second home in central Va.I have a 10 year old grandson in Cornwall NY.I do not wish to cut and run but am making plans just in case.I have never voted for a gun grabber since I came here in the Army and stayed.I WILL NOT LIVE IN A STATE GOVERENED BY A DICTATOR.King Cuomo is despised in Upstate and Western NY.I attended all the ralleys,write ltrs,e-mails and donate to the cause.The NYSRPA has has already spent over $500,000 in legal fees.Hopefully the NY Safe(Usafe)Act of 2013 will make it to the US Supreme Court.A Federal Judge in Buffalo struck down the seven round limit.Last Saturday we demonstrated in Suffern,Mount Kisco(Cuomo's love nest)and Long Island.Sunday we covered Middletown NY.I even talked to Cuomo's bodyguards in Mount Kisco.I suppose I am on their radar now.They were very nice to us and very professional.About 5 days ago Astorino was up by one point with the men in NY.With the women Cuomo is up by about 20 points.This election is not about Astorino,it is about corruption and getting rid of Cuomo.You have to start somewhere.Please get out there and vote Nov.4th.We can do it if we all vote.Even if you are not registered they can not stop you from voting.We need a miracle! Life Member Monroe-Chester Sportsmens Club,NYSRPA member,NRA Endowment Member and Native Son of Virginia
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
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    RAYMOND - You are DA MAN !!!! I'm with you brother !

    quote:Originally posted by 4205raymond
    Been in NY since 1961. I have a second home in central Va.I have a 10 year old grandson in Cornwall NY.I do not wish to cut and run but am making plans just in case.I have never voted for a gun grabber since I came here in the Army and stayed.I WILL NOT LIVE IN A STATE GOVERENED BY A DICTATOR.King Cuomo is despised in Upstate and Western NY.I attended all the ralleys,write ltrs,e-mails and donate to the cause.The NYSRPA has has already spent over $500,000 in legal fees.Hopefully the NY Safe(Usafe)Act of 2013 will make it to the US Supreme Court.A Federal Judge in Buffalo struck down the seven round limit.Last Saturday we demonstrated in Suffern,Mount Kisco(Cuomo's love nest)and Long Island.Sunday we covered Middletown NY.I even talked to Cuomo's bodyguards in Mount Kisco.I suppose I am on their radar now.They were very nice to us and very professional.About 5 days ago Astorino was up by one point with the men in NY.With the women Cuomo is up by about 20 points.This election is not about Astorino,it is about corruption and getting rid of Cuomo.You have to start somewhere.Please get out there and vote Nov.4th.We can do it if we all vote.Even if you are not registered they can not stop you from voting.We need a miracle! Life Member Monroe-Chester Sportsmens Club,NYSRPA member,NRA Endowment Member and Native Son of Virginia
    Abort Cuomo
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
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    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    quote:Originally posted by guntech59
    quote:Originally posted by Rocklobster
    People organizing to get a crappy law repealed? Good luck with that. The time to organize is on election day.


    We are working on that, too.

    Every time you divide gun owners....north/south.....black/white....rich/poor....no matter.....you make us weaker as a whole.

    Others, from other states, are lending their support....monetary and morale. Why not you? Surely, you don't want this crap to leak out of here to other states.
    I'd truly like to, but we've been spending quite a bit of our spare time here beating the bushes to try to wake up as many folks as possible to the truth about the lying Obama sycophant Michelle Nunn and the Jason Carter farce.

    I apologize for being snide with you guys. I'm well aware that you're grossly outnumbered by the parasites up there, need all the help you can get.

    Good luck.

    I don't think Carter has a snowballs chance. Nunn (Sam's daughter, not our esteemed Moderator) is riding on Daddy's coattails and even though he was a Dem, he was a friend to the Armed Forces and many of our Georgia industries. (And a fellow Yellow Jacket, but so was Jimmy Carter so that only goes so far) I voted for Sam on at least one occasion, but as I recall, he was unopposed most of the time.

    So she is riding his goodwill to good effect , and her opponent is hindered by his last name as his cousin was Sonny Purdue who was an acceptable Governor, but many of the base are still upset with the whole state flag situation from 2004 as well as a few other tax deals he introduced. It will be a very tight Tuesday night next week. Loudermilk is unopposed, However I would have rather had Bob Barr in his place but since there was no Dem on the ticket and 6 GOP entries I would bet good money that a large number of the takers voted in the Republican runoff to defeat Bob since they really had nothing to vote on that day. (16k votes made the difference)

    I voted last week. I'll be escorting MrsFun and oldest daughter on Saturday. It has been steady all week.




    Sam Nunn was a good man, as was Zell Miller. I voted for both of them as they were the best choice at that time. Things were very different then - those guys were conservatives; it was before socialists had taken over the Democrat Party.

    This time I think Amanda Swofford is the best choice, but she's a crazy extremist who believes in reducing spending and operating within an actual budget, replacing the tax code, adherence to the constitution, and relying on individual responsibility and initiative instead of government.

    How nutty can you get?
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by nyforester
    RAYMOND - You are DA MAN !!!! I'm with you brother !

    quote:Originally posted by 4205raymond
    Been in NY since 1961. I have a second home in central Va.I have a 10 year old grandson in Cornwall NY.I do not wish to cut and run but am making plans just in case.I have never voted for a gun grabber since I came here in the Army and stayed.I WILL NOT LIVE IN A STATE GOVERENED BY A DICTATOR.King Cuomo is despised in Upstate and Western NY.I attended all the ralleys,write ltrs,e-mails and donate to the cause.The NYSRPA has has already spent over $500,000 in legal fees.Hopefully the NY Safe(Usafe)Act of 2013 will make it to the US Supreme Court.A Federal Judge in Buffalo struck down the seven round limit.Last Saturday we demonstrated in Suffern,Mount Kisco(Cuomo's love nest)and Long Island.Sunday we covered Middletown NY.I even talked to Cuomo's bodyguards in Mount Kisco.I suppose I am on their radar now.They were very nice to us and very professional.About 5 days ago Astorino was up by one point with the men in NY.With the women Cuomo is up by about 20 points.This election is not about Astorino,it is about corruption and getting rid of Cuomo.You have to start somewhere.Please get out there and vote Nov.4th.We can do it if we all vote.Even if you are not registered they can not stop you from voting.We need a miracle! Life Member Monroe-Chester Sportsmens Club,NYSRPA member,NRA Endowment Member and Native Son of Virginia



    Same message I preach.

    If you don't like the way things are, you're primary way to change things is to vote those in office....out of office.

    Hi, Raymond.
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    medic07medic07 Member Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭
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    At this point the people of NYS can do resistance demonstration by not complying.

    Albany knows that and this is probably why they have new plans in place. By drying up not only the supply of firearms but the ammo as well they know they can impact those who choose not to comply with registration.

    The only way if AC gets back in and pushes this through is to have buddies make deliveries to you with ammo from the free zones (I cannot believe we are actually to the point that we have free and restricted zones in this nation).
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    4205raymond4205raymond Member Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭
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    In 1989 My bride of 50 years now and I saved up our vacation time for two years bought a new truck and drove across North America.Crossed at Fargo,ND into Regina,Canada across to Alaska Highway and up the Pipeline.Over 10,000 miles round trip.It was our 25th Anniversary.Stopped at a small gun shop on the Tok Cut Off in Tok,Alaska.Was looking at some pistols at counter and older gentleman walked over and said "Son can I help you." Bear in mind I am really not a kid at 46.Don't know why I was looking at pistols because I am really a rifleman.Knowing the hoops I had to jump thru to get my UNRESTRICTED NY permit back I believe in Mario Cuomo's time,I asked what Alaskans had to go thru to get a pistol permit? There was a long pause and he looked me dead in the eyes and replied "Son what permit,I don't think you realize we are still FREE up here." For a long time I think my heart stopped beating,This man was not bragging and I could read the immense pride in his face.The 2nd Ammendment is not a privilege,it is our right.I will remember this man's words until the day I die.
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
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    Reading that made the hair stand up on my neck and gave me goose pimples !! NICE


    quote:Originally posted by 4205raymond
    In 1989 My bride of 50 years now and I saved up our vacation time for two years bought a new truck and drove across North America.Crossed at Fargo,ND into Regina,Canada across to Alaska Highway and up the Pipeline.Over 10,000 miles round trip.It was our 25th Anniversary.Stopped at a small gun shop on the Tok Cut Off in Tok,Alaska.Was looking at some pistols at counter and older gentleman walked over and said "Son can I help you." Bear in mind I am really not a kid at 46.Don't know why I was looking at pistols because I am really a rifleman.Knowing the hoops I had to jump thru to get my UNRESTRICTED NY permit back I believe in Mario Cuomo's time,I asked what Alaskans had to go thru to get a pistol permit? There was a long pause and he looked me dead in the eyes and replied "Son what permit,I don't think you realize we are still FREE up here." For a long time I think my heart stopped beating,This man was not bragging and I could read the immense pride in his face.The 2nd Ammendment is not a privilege,it is our right.I will remember this man's words until the day I die.
    Abort Cuomo
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,784 ✭✭✭✭
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    If N.Y. adopots it,,Illinois wont be far behind,,,,and then another shoe drops in the pile of dung-
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    4205raymond4205raymond Member Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭
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    A few weeks ago my daughter received a family refund(10 year old son) from NY State.Tonight (4 days from election) I received a check from NY State called Property Tax Freeze Credit for $153. Coincidence, I don't think so! For years Albany has stolen our money from unfunded mandates etc. and now they throw us a crumb.I wonder how many voters this small crumb will attract? They live and breathe amongst us.BTW, Romney called me tonight stumping for Astorino.Quote "If you are tired of paying too much tax in NY vote for Astorino" The total taxes on my small house and three acres in central Virginia is $930. In Orange County NY my total tax is $6500 on a 50'x 150' lot and 1400 sq ft home and this is with a veterans discount.Please, get up and get out to vote King Cuomo out on Nov.4th and take your friend along if he needs a ride.
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    e3mrke3mrk Member Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The Manufacturers need to step up and refuse to do it.
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    4205raymond4205raymond Member Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭✭
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    Went to Chase Bank this afternoon to cash my NY State Property Tax Freeze Credit check from King Cuomo and his cronies. Line was out the door and for a while I thought maybe there was a run on the bank. Waited over half hour for teller. Longest I ever waited. Was not being nosy but noticed that almost all the customers had the same kind of check in their hand.When I finally got to teller I asked why so many customers today.She confirmed because of NY State Property Tax Freeze Credit checks. I can understand that a lot of these folks really needed the money.I informed her that I would use the money to buy another firearm and that my vote was not for sale.Get up and get out tomorrow to vote Andrew Cuomo out.Vote,Vote,Vote like you never voted before.
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
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    It looks like Communist Cuomo will be in for another 4 years.

    Time to start looking for a job out of this state.

    How is Montana ??
    Abort Cuomo
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by nyforester
    It looks like Communist Cuomo will be in for another 4 years.

    Time to start looking for a job out of this state.

    How is Montana ??


    [:(!][:(!]

    I brought four like minded folks to the polls this year, that otherwise would not have voted, and it didn't help.

    Evidently, I need to do more.

    We kept Ken Blankenship and Patty Ritchie though. Thay have been doing a pretty good job representing us.
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