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Conspiracy theories
Henry0Reilly
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I ran into one I hadn't heard of today. It seems a lot of people are convinced that if the condensed vapor trails left behind aircraft in flight don't dissipate quickly they must contain toxic chemicals intended to influence weather patterns.
I tried asking a couple of logical questions of the person propounding the theory to me but they were ignored.
I tried asking a couple of logical questions of the person propounding the theory to me but they were ignored.
I used to recruit for the NRA until they sold us down the river (again!) in Heller v. DC. See my auctions (if any) under username henryreilly
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Ruuuunnnn! [;)][:D]
Go to the politics forum. EVERYTHING is a conspiracy there.
Oh yeah!!
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Oh Dear Heavens! Not the Chem Trails Theory again!?!
Ruuuunnnn! [;)][:D]
YES! My favorite one!
The nut cases that believe in the chem trail stuff are the same ones that think the DNW web site is the bible.
Oh well.
It was a sad moment, and a troubling one. The moment my mother, one of the most rational people I ever knew, began to believe in chem trail conspiracies. Also in get rich working at home schemes. It was the moment we realized that age was finally catching up, affecting her mind. She only lived a few more years before a stroke and heart attack took her from us. She deserved far more years, and with faculties intact at that.
Oh well.
A classic trick of the disinformation agents is to link the topic at hand to completely unrelated and irrational topics such as mental illness and get rich quick schemes. You are very consistent I notice.
My mother also suffered from dementia before she died and had many strange ideas none of which added to or subtracted from the veracity of some of the evidence backing up the presence of chem-trails.
There are numerous disinformation sites on the web devoted to encouraging people to not question what the govt may or may not be doing on the QT. The fact that there are such disinformation sites and programs out there is kind of damning in and of itself isn't it. If it all were really ridiculous they wouldn't need such things would they and they wouldn't work so hard at it.
The plain fact is that we understand there are contrails left in the atmosphere as planes travel through the sky during the right conditions of temperature and humidity. This is a normal phenomena we have all seen many times.
Many people have also noted the existence of trails left behind aircraft which behave differently than we expect regular contrails to behave. We see this aberration as worthy of investigation and call them chemtrails as we suspect there is more than water vapor involved.
There are also people who have measured and observed unexpected levels of contaminants in air,water, and soil in areas where these irregular chemtrails have also been observed. This we also feel is worthy of investigation.
Couple those items with the proven track record of the US Govt spraying other chemicals without regard to human consequence and in fact infecting diverse populations with disease just for purposes of study and we have enough to judge them to be at the least self-serving and amoral in their behavior.
Remember this is the same govt who actively promotes global warming in the face of mountains of contrary evidence.
Last Warning SkiCat
I have told you guys before. Nutjob threads go in politics.
Last Warning SkiCat
Interesting. I wasn't aware I was trying your patience.
I have told you guys before. Nutjob threads go in politics.
Last Warning SkiCat
My apologies. I did not know this topic had been covered 4 years ago and it did not occur to me to post in politics rather than general discussion.
HEY, CAPTFUN, WHY DUMP THIS STUFF ON ME?? [;)][;)][;)][;)][:D]
[:D][:D] Po' Bruce.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Traveling from the Small town of in Idaho to a larger city in ID we observed 5 to 6 jets, smaller military fighter sized jets, they were really high making an exact ID on them impossible but they were all flying a huge grid at the same time and we could tell they were not air liners. The grid was over air space around 10 to 15 miles wide and and as long. I observed the jets multiple times come to the end of the grid and then the trail would stop, they would make a sharp (As sharp as needed) U-turn and re align for another run in the grid and as soon as they came into the grid zone the trail would begin again. One would do it on one side while another jet would do the same thing on the other side while yet another would do this in the middle and side of the grid. Each time, no matter what jet came to the end of the grid no matter the location of the grid the trail stopped. And each time any jet no matter the location entered the grid again the trail would begin again. At no point inside the grid would you see any breaks in the trail. None.
#8232;Now knowing something about the science of contrails I knew the mathematical improbability that the jets were entering and leaving warmer and cooler air pockets at precisely the correct times to form this grid was astronomically high to the point of being absurd to entertain the notion. Again, no where inside the grid was there any break in the trails. I know the jets were not cutting their power. I knew that day that I was witnessing air craft spraying something in the sky and what I was seeing was what people were calling chemtrails. I observed the jets for over an hour from the car as we traveled. I wish I had a video camera back then but I did not. I sat on what I had witnesses for some years and then I observed the internet arguments on the topic. Occasionally I would tell people on forums what I had seen with my own eyes but it would be dismissed as water vapors and warm and cool air pockets. They either were not listening to me or they did not believe I saw what I had related. If I pressed the issue or brought up the odds of improbability they just called me crazy. I knew I was not getting across in words what I had seen so even hand drew an illustration but people just don't want to accept that something might be going on in the sky they cannot explain to stop so the charges that I was nuts continued and of course the personal attacks. When I would enter a topic with this information it was not long that the topic would be closed. Or if posting on Craig's list it would be flagged off with in minutes so fast in fact there has to be more at work then simply the CL community flaggers at work. In San Diego's Craig's List it seems someone has a fast track flag button with anything that gets to close to the truth. The topics are allowed to stay up so long as the debunkers can make fun of the chemtrails truth advocates but post something like I am here and it disappears faster it can be publicly seen. So if nothing is going on then why censor the people talking about the stuff being sprayed?
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
I have told you guys before. Nutjob threads go in politics.
Last Warning SkiCat
Interesting. I wasn't aware I was trying your patience.
I was not aware that you posted the OP either were you?
and I can tell you its hot up there in the summer just like it is in the valley.
You want science watch this.
There are chem-trails being applied by THEM, it is warmer higher in the air than on the ground, and Santa is bringing me a new 36" gap bed lathe for Christmas because I have been a good boy.
Please post further chem-trail threads in the bow and arrow forum.