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Obama says Israel Has No Claim to Jerusalem
Here is some U.N. meddling that jumps out to what a International government is about. Whatever happen to possession is 9/10 of the law? This post link is prophetic believe it or not.
There has been a lot happening over there with little if any news coverage. In both Ukraine & Jerusalem!
serf
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/solicitor-general-israel-has-no-claim-to-jerusalem-just-as-russia-has-no-claim-to-crimea/
www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15011
There has been a lot happening over there with little if any news coverage. In both Ukraine & Jerusalem!
serf
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/solicitor-general-israel-has-no-claim-to-jerusalem-just-as-russia-has-no-claim-to-crimea/
www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15011
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And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Here is some U.N. meddling that jumps out to what a International government is about. Whatever happen to possession is 9/10 of the law? This post link is prophetic believe it or not.
There has been a lot happening over there with little if any news coverage. In both Ukraine & Jerusalem!
serf
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/solicitor-general-israel-has-no-claim-to-jerusalem-just-as-russia-has-no-claim-to-crimea/
www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15011
It's all about a Jew who was born in Jerusalem wanting his passport to state that Jerusalem is part of Israel. That scam was tried two years ago and is still being pushed.
Possession is 9/10 of the law ? In this case only if Jews have something to gain by it. If the 9/10 rule worked, the Jew Jackals wouldn't have shaken down the Swiss banks. They also wouldn't be demanding land and other assets that once belonged to Jews but are now in the possession of others.
quote:Originally posted by serf
Here is some U.N. meddling that jumps out to what a International government is about. Whatever happen to possession is 9/10 of the law? This post link is prophetic believe it or not.
There has been a lot happening over there with little if any news coverage. In both Ukraine & Jerusalem!
serf
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/solicitor-general-israel-has-no-claim-to-jerusalem-just-as-russia-has-no-claim-to-crimea/
www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15011
It's all about a Jew who was born in Jerusalem wanting his passport to state that Jerusalem is part of Israel. That scam was tried two years ago and is still being pushed.
Possession is 9/10 of the law ? In this case only if Jews have something to gain by it. If the 9/10 rule worked, the Jew Jackals wouldn't have shaken down the Swiss banks. They also wouldn't be demanding land and other assets that once belonged to Jews but are now in the possession of others.
No quite correct.You have two different kind of Jewish people here. The humanism one's and the religious one's. I think Jesus has already throw out the money changers in the temple.
serf
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by serf
Here is some U.N. meddling that jumps out to what a International government is about. Whatever happen to possession is 9/10 of the law? This post link is prophetic believe it or not.
There has been a lot happening over there with little if any news coverage. In both Ukraine & Jerusalem!
serf
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/solicitor-general-israel-has-no-claim-to-jerusalem-just-as-russia-has-no-claim-to-crimea/
www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15011
It's all about a Jew who was born in Jerusalem wanting his passport to state that Jerusalem is part of Israel. That scam was tried two years ago and is still being pushed.
Possession is 9/10 of the law ? In this case only if Jews have something to gain by it. If the 9/10 rule worked, the Jew Jackals wouldn't have shaken down the Swiss banks. They also wouldn't be demanding land and other assets that once belonged to Jews but are now in the possession of others.
No quite correct.You have two different kind of Jewish people here. The humanism one's and the religious one's. I think Jesus has already throw out the money changers in the temple.
serf
The money changers are now international bankers.
In the case of the passport. ....It's a scam to claim Jerusalem as part of Israel. Just another one of their sleazy tricks. I still recall the pressure that they put on our Congress to get our embassy moved to Jerusalem.........just another sleazy move to claim Jerusalem as their capitol.
bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Ostrich............a bird that buries it's head in the sand and exposes it's behind for all to see.
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Ostrich............a bird that buries it's head in the sand and exposes it's behind for all to see.
How can you say that? I saw instantly what you are.
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Ostrich............a bird that buries it's head in the sand and exposes it's behind for all to see.
How can you say that? I saw instantly what you are.
I only state the truth about Israel and the traitors in this country who blindly support Israel. Oh by the way......I instantly saw what you are and since your head was buried and you can't see the truth....you know what I saw.
It's interesting to note that they were the ones who jumped up onto the wall and shouted "crucify him."
quote:The money changers are now international bankers.Very accurate. Still bribing their way into control of governments.
It's interesting to note that they were the ones who jumped up onto the wall and shouted "crucify him."
Yeah, if Rahm Emanuel and Jesus were being held pending execution..........they would shout " give us Rahm ".
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Ostrich............a bird that buries it's head in the sand and exposes it's behind for all to see.
How can you say that? I saw instantly what you are.
I only state the truth about Israel and the traitors in this country who blindly support Israel...
Oh,come on!That's either a blatant lie or you're in denial.
If you really "only state the truth about Israel, yada, yada, yada" then you wouldn't need or use terms such as "Jew Jackals."
Your own words tell everyone exactly what you are.
So tell us, Adolf, what happened to make you so bitter? Did some little Jewish girl put you down in high school? She didn't appreciate your artistic talents?
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Ostrich............a bird that buries it's head in the sand and exposes it's behind for all to see.
How can you say that? I saw instantly what you are.
I only state the truth about Israel and the traitors in this country who blindly support Israel...
Oh,come on!That's either a blatant lie or you're in denial.
If you really "only state the truth about Israel, yada, yada, yada" then you wouldn't need or use terms such as "Jew Jackals."
Your own words tell everyone exactly what you are.
So tell us, Adolf, what happened to make you so bitter? Did some little Jewish girl put you down in high school? She didn't appreciate your artistic talents?
Ah yes my fine feathered friend I did say "Jew Jackals" and I consider the behavior of money grubbing Jews to be akin to the behavior of Jackals. There is a very good book out titled " The Holocaust Industry ". It's by Finkelstein ( he's Jewish ) and he describes the behavior of the Jackals who make a mockery of the holocaust and care only about money..
Here you are ranting about the actions of a few Jews while you ignore and even justify the actions of thousands of Muslim murderers.
You cite a book written by a Jew that exposed unethical actions by a few Jews. You failed to note that other Jews read this book and took action to correct the problems it exposed.
A book about Islam - all of Islam - entitled "The Satanic Verses" was written by a Muslim. Other Muslims read that book and condemned the author to death.
These FACTS should tell you something, but I dare say you will not understand the message.
Characterizing an entire group of people by the actions of a few is a fool's errand. If you want to at least appear intelligent (and it will be an uphill struggle) try basing your philosophies on solid statistical data rather than a few, carefully selected stories.
Also, you should review the criminal and civil laws in most countries in regard to stolen personal property: it remains the property of the original owner from whom it was taken. This has nothing to do with war or countries; that falls into the realm of international law.
By the way, your 9/10 rule is not a rule, but only a guide, and only then in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary. "Every claimant must succeed by the strength of his own title, and not by the weakness of his antagonist's." Do you need that explained to you?
Looks like GB has another 88'er screeching about "evil Joos" while trying not to not look like an 88'er.....isn't this crap getting old yet?
quite.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Do you know the difference between statistical and anecdotal data? Obviously not.
Characterizing an entire group of people by the actions of a few is a fool's errand. If you want to at least appear intelligent (and it will be an uphill struggle) try basing your philosophies on solid statistical data rather than a few, carefully selected stories.
You do it to Muslims ....is it wrong for others to do it to Jews?
Also, you should review the criminal and civil laws in most countries in regard to stolen personal property: it remains the property of the original owner from whom it was taken. This has nothing to do with war or countries; that falls into the realm of international law.
I suppose that the Jews didn't steal Palestine? Do the Palestinians still own that which was stolen from them.? By the way....don't start that " God gave it to the Jews " garbage.
By the way, your 9/10 rule is not a rule, but only a guide, and only then in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary. "Every claimant must succeed by the strength of his own title, and not by the weakness of his antagonist's." Do you need that explained to you?
What title did the Jews have when they attacked the militarily weak Palestinian farmers and stole their land? Once again.....don't start that " God gave it to the Jews " garbage.
The above three caught my eye .
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
Do you know the difference between statistical and anecdotal data? Obviously not.
Characterizing an entire group of people by the actions of a few is a fool's errand. If you want to at least appear intelligent (and it will be an uphill struggle) try basing your philosophies on solid statistical data rather than a few, carefully selected stories.
You do it to Muslims ....is it wrong for others to do it to Jews?
Also, you should review the criminal and civil laws in most countries in regard to stolen personal property: it remains the property of the original owner from whom it was taken. This has nothing to do with war or countries; that falls into the realm of international law.
I suppose that the Jews didn't steal Palestine? Do the Palestinians still own that which was stolen from them.? By the way....don't start that " God gave it to the Jews " garbage.
By the way, your 9/10 rule is not a rule, but only a guide, and only then in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary. "Every claimant must succeed by the strength of his own title, and not by the weakness of his antagonist's." Do you need that explained to you?
What title did the Jews have when they attacked the militarily weak Palestinian farmers and stole their land? Once again.....don't start that " God gave it to the Jews " garbage.
The above three caught my eye .
What title was given to the Muslims that spread from the Arabian peninsula circa 622 AD? Muslims that spread their theology at the point of a sword rather than in the arena of ideas?
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
Do you know the difference between statistical and anecdotal data? Obviously not.
Characterizing an entire group of people by the actions of a few is a fool's errand. If you want to at least appear intelligent (and it will be an uphill struggle) try basing your philosophies on solid statistical data rather than a few, carefully selected stories.
You do it to Muslims ....is it wrong for others to do it to Jews?quote:
Also, you should review the criminal and civil laws in most countries in regard to stolen personal property: it remains the property of the original owner from whom it was taken. This has nothing to do with war or countries; that falls into the realm of international law.
I suppose that the Jews didn't steal Palestine? Do the Palestinians still own that which was stolen from them.? By the way....don't start that " God gave it to the Jews " garbage.quote:
By the way, your 9/10 rule is not a rule, but only a guide, and only then in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary. "Every claimant must succeed by the strength of his own title, and not by the weakness of his antagonist's." Do you need that explained to you?
What title did the Jews have when they attacked the militarily weak Palestinian farmers and stole their land? Once again.....don't start that " God gave it to the Jews " garbage.
The above three caught my eye .
From the top down.
One well-known quotation, which has become a truism, says all there is to say about Muslims: "The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war."
Second, actually, between the end of the Nineteenth Century and the establishment of Israel, the Jews bought their land from the sheiks, et al. During and after the war for independence (which was started by the surrounding Arab states, not the Palestinians themselves), many of the non-Jewish residents of Israel (but not all) fled the country, abandoning their real property.
It is a well-known fact that the Arab attack on the new-born state of Israel was motivated by the belief that they could simply and easily grab the Jewish lands for themselves once the British protectorate ended. The Arab states wrongly believed that the Jews would be easy targets for their aggression. They continue to repeat that error every so often.
Finally, real property is any property that is attached directly to land, as well as the land itself. Personal property is anything else. Kindly make note of the distinction and abide by it in the future.
In an earlier post you whined quote:Posted by davej...the Jew Jackals wouldn't have shaken down the Swiss banks. They also wouldn't be demanding land and other assets that once belonged to Jews but are now in the possession of others.I made the distinction between personal property and real property to illustrate your error. Obviously, it went right over your head without affecting your brain.
The Nazis forced the Jews to sell their real property during the 1930's because they knew that once a sale is completed property title is transferred to the buyer. That's where the 9/10 rule applies today; it is hard to prove coercion. However, in the case of personal property, the Nazi's did not bother with the charade; there was too much to steal, to many things to take. They stole the property, but the title remained with the rightful owners and their descendants.
Recall that the Nazis also looted public buildings in the countries they occupied. The things taken were rightfully returned to the original nations after the war when they could be identified. Would you criticize Frenchmen as "French jackals" because they demanded their national treasures be returned? Do you think any Frenchmen might have made a Franc or two where they shouldn't have?
Did you know that Israel has many non-Jewish citizens? That these other Semites are not discriminated against in any way so long as they refrain from blowing themselves to pieces in public places? Non-Jews are free to practice their religion in Israel. Non-Jews own land, vote, hold public office, receive welfare in Israel.
Can you cite any of these freedoms in any Arab country?
Look, davej, you are a bigot. Bigotry cannot be justified, so give it up. Relax and enjoy your condition as much as you can because you do not have the intellect or ability to change it.
Bravo, TC!
Bravo my fine feathered friends. Looks as though there was a lot of smoke blown up you while you had your heads in the sand. I blame your huckster religious leaders and scholars for that.
You mentioned the fact that Jews read " The Holocaust Industry " and did something about it. You must be referring to the Jews of France. They went to the French government and got the book banned in France because it would cause anti-Semitism.
If Israel put down it's arms They would no longer be able to steal land from their neighbors. Let's look at some of their arms. Do they need Dolphin class boats with nuclear tipped cruise missiles ? Do they need a massive chemical and biological industry ? Do they need a massive nuclear arsenal ? Why do they have a part of that nuclear arsenal targeted at German cities ?
If Israelis neighbors laid down their arms Israel would be free to continue to expand.
After WWll the U.S. shipped most of it's surplus weaponry back to the U.S. rather than leave it in Europe. Meyer Lansky routed his heroin money into the Irgun to finance the theft of a large part of that weaponry. That weaponry was used to arm thousands of Slavic Jew terrorists who then attacked their unarmed non Jewish neighbors.
The citizens of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine fought back to halt the Jewish invasion.
The Jews used terror as a weapon to drive their victims from their land. Non Jews were put to death with the knife, buried alive, beaten, raped or shot to death in order frighten others into abandoning their homes. Their homes complete with pots, pans and clothing were then stolen by Jew squatters. At least 10% of the victims of Jewish terror were Christians.
Non Jews cannot legally purchase or lease land in Israel. Jewish communities can now vote to expel any non Jew in their community. The victim of that vote is then forced to turn his property over to a Jew for a fraction of it's worth.
Recently the Jews changed the location of the check points that the non Jews are forced to go through when they pass in or out of the settlements. Jews didn't want to ride on a bus with non Jews in it so those check points were moved away from the bus lines to force the non Jews to walk.
We hear a lot of whining about Kristallnacht. Did you know that the Jews of Israel were guilty of the same behavior. After Israel was illegally created Jewish louts descended on businesses that were owned by non Jews in a attempt to close them down. Jews blocked the entrances to the shops, threatened customers, threatened Jews who worked in the shops, performed acts of arson and acts vandalism such as painting on the shop windows. They also threatened Jewish shop owners who had non Jewish employees.
The life of a non Jew in Israel can be compared to the life of a Black in 1955 Mississippi or a Jew in Nazi Germany.
I'll close by asking both of you ( TC & BP )my favorite question. If you had to choose between the survival of the United States and the survival of Israel....which would you save ?
Why does Israel have nuclear weapons?
Population of Israel: slightly less than 8,000,000. 75% Jewish, 25% Arab (a.k.a. Muslim), who own their land, by the way.
Islamic population of the world: slightly less than 2,000,000,000.
Who is the source of your targeting data? Lewis Carroll?
quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
Bravo, TC!
Bravo my fine feathered friends. Looks as though there was a lot of smoke blown up you while you had your heads in the sand. I blame your huckster religious leaders and scholars for that.
You mentioned the fact that Jews read " The Holocaust Industry " and did something about it. You must be referring to the Jews of France. They went to the French government and got the book banned in France because it would cause anti-Semitism.
If Israel put down it's arms They would no longer be able to steal land from their neighbors. Let's look at some of their arms. Do they need Dolphin class boats with nuclear tipped cruise missiles ? Do they need a massive chemical and biological industry ? Do they need a massive nuclear arsenal ? Why do they have a part of that nuclear arsenal targeted at German cities ?
If Israelis neighbors laid down their arms Israel would be free to continue to expand.
After WWll the U.S. shipped most of it's surplus weaponry back to the U.S. rather than leave it in Europe. Meyer Lansky routed his heroin money into the Irgun to finance the theft of a large part of that weaponry. That weaponry was used to arm thousands of Slavic Jew terrorists who then attacked their unarmed non Jewish neighbors.
The citizens of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine fought back to halt the Jewish invasion.
The Jews used terror as a weapon to drive their victims from their land. Non Jews were put to death with the knife, buried alive, beaten, raped or shot to death in order frighten others into abandoning their homes. Their homes complete with pots, pans and clothing were then stolen by Jew squatters. At least 10% of the victims of Jewish terror were Christians.
Non Jews cannot legally purchase or lease land in Israel. Jewish communities can now vote to expel any non Jew in their community. The victim of that vote is then forced to turn his property over to a Jew for a fraction of it's worth.
Recently the Jews changed the location of the check points that the non Jews are forced to go through when they pass in or out of the settlements. Jews didn't want to ride on a bus with non Jews in it so those check points were moved away from the bus lines to force the non Jews to walk.
We hear a lot of whining about Kristallnacht. Did you know that the Jews of Israel were guilty of the same behavior. After Israel was illegally created Jewish louts descended on businesses that were owned by non Jews in a attempt to close them down. Jews blocked the entrances to the shops, threatened customers, threatened Jews who worked in the shops, performed acts of arson and acts vandalism such as painting on the shop windows. They also threatened Jewish shop owners who had non Jewish employees.
The life of a non Jew in Israel can be compared to the life of a Black in 1955 Mississippi or a Jew in Nazi Germany.
I'll close by asking both of you ( TC & BP )my favorite question. If you had to choose between the survival of the United States and the survival of Israel....which would you save ?
Hitler would be proud of you princess.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
Bravo, TC!
Bravo my fine feathered friends. Looks as though there was a lot of smoke blown up you while you had your heads in the sand. I blame your huckster religious leaders and scholars for that.
You mentioned the fact that Jews read " The Holocaust Industry " and did something about it. You must be referring to the Jews of France. They went to the French government and got the book banned in France because it would cause anti-Semitism.
If Israel put down it's arms They would no longer be able to steal land from their neighbors. Let's look at some of their arms. Do they need Dolphin class boats with nuclear tipped cruise missiles ? Do they need a massive chemical and biological industry ? Do they need a massive nuclear arsenal ? Why do they have a part of that nuclear arsenal targeted at German cities ?
If Israelis neighbors laid down their arms Israel would be free to continue to expand.
After WWll the U.S. shipped most of it's surplus weaponry back to the U.S. rather than leave it in Europe. Meyer Lansky routed his heroin money into the Irgun to finance the theft of a large part of that weaponry. That weaponry was used to arm thousands of Slavic Jew terrorists who then attacked their unarmed non Jewish neighbors.
The citizens of Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Palestine fought back to halt the Jewish invasion.
The Jews used terror as a weapon to drive their victims from their land. Non Jews were put to death with the knife, buried alive, beaten, raped or shot to death in order frighten others into abandoning their homes. Their homes complete with pots, pans and clothing were then stolen by Jew squatters. At least 10% of the victims of Jewish terror were Christians.
Non Jews cannot legally purchase or lease land in Israel. Jewish communities can now vote to expel any non Jew in their community. The victim of that vote is then forced to turn his property over to a Jew for a fraction of it's worth.
Recently the Jews changed the location of the check points that the non Jews are forced to go through when they pass in or out of the settlements. Jews didn't want to ride on a bus with non Jews in it so those check points were moved away from the bus lines to force the non Jews to walk.
We hear a lot of whining about Kristallnacht. Did you know that the Jews of Israel were guilty of the same behavior. After Israel was illegally created Jewish louts descended on businesses that were owned by non Jews in a attempt to close them down. Jews blocked the entrances to the shops, threatened customers, threatened Jews who worked in the shops, performed acts of arson and acts vandalism such as painting on the shop windows. They also threatened Jewish shop owners who had non Jewish employees.
The life of a non Jew in Israel can be compared to the life of a Black in 1955 Mississippi or a Jew in Nazi Germany.
I'll close by asking both of you ( TC & BP )my favorite question. If you had to choose between the survival of the United States and the survival of Israel....which would you save ?
Well, it seems that I have hit a nerve on my fine feathered friends.........[}:)]
I would suggest that TC, US, BP and Perfect get their heads out of the sand long enough to read " The Seventh Million " by Tom Segev ( a Jewish author ) . Most of the facts that I mentioned are documented in that book. The other facts are readily available on the internet. I have noted that all of you are able to respond to my post but not able to answer the big question. If you had to choose between the survival of The United States or the survival of Israel ....which would you save ? Any citizen of this country should without hesitation be able to say The United States. If you have the courage ( which I doubt ) to expose yourselves and your real loyalty.........say Israel and then get out of this country.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
The only "nerve" seems to be the nerve you have to spread lies and speak ill of the Jews. But you go right ahead, it's perfectly transparent what you are. Sieg heil![xx(]
The truth seems to bother you. The truth is that you like most Jews are afraid to confront facts. You also are afraid to answer the question about the U.S. and Israel. Which one would you chose to support? Put your money where your mouth is. You and I both know who you would blindly support and who you would sell out.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
The only "nerve" seems to be the nerve you have to spread lies and speak ill of the Jews. But you go right ahead, it's perfectly transparent what you are. Sieg heil![xx(]
The truth seems to bother you. The truth is that you like most Jews are afraid to confront facts. You also are afraid to answer the question about the U.S. and Israel. Which one would you chose to support? Put your money where your mouth is. You and I both know who you would blindly support and who you would sell out.
LOL! You are a funny little man.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Of course, this is a logical fallacy.
Furthermore, it is not necessary to choose between the two because the proposition is hypothetical. It is not now, nor will it probably ever become, reality. The choice then, is simply more of DaveJ's fiction.
Here we have an example of one of the most egregious debating fouls: the strawman. DaveJ has introduced, from whole cloth, the proposition that if one supports (or does not attack) Israel, then he is automatically opposing (or attacking) the United States.
Of course, this is a logical fallacy.
Furthermore, it is not necessary to choose between the two because the proposition is hypothetical. It is not now, nor will it probably ever become, reality. The choice then, is simply more of DaveJ's fiction.
And that is one of the many reasons I am laughing at him.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
Here we have an example of one of the most egregious debating fouls: the strawman. DaveJ has introduced, from whole cloth, the proposition that if one supports (or does not attack) Israel, then he is automatically opposing (or attacking) the United States.
Of course, this is a logical fallacy.
Furthermore, it is not necessary to choose between the two because the proposition is hypothetical. It is not now, nor will it probably ever become, reality. The choice then, is simply more of DaveJ's fiction.
And that is one of the many reasons I am laughing at him.
When it's inconvenient....the best answer is no answer or evasion. Just what I expected.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
Here we have an example of one of the most egregious debating fouls: the strawman. DaveJ has introduced, from whole cloth, the proposition that if one supports (or does not attack) Israel, then he is automatically opposing (or attacking) the United States.
Of course, this is a logical fallacy.
Furthermore, it is not necessary to choose between the two because the proposition is hypothetical. It is not now, nor will it probably ever become, reality. The choice then, is simply more of DaveJ's fiction.
And that is one of the many reasons I am laughing at him.
When it's inconvenient....the best answer is no answer or evasion. Just what I expected.
Not even close. Care to swing again, fraulein?
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
I want you to read this carefully.
We do not have time, interest, or reason to argue hypothetical questions with you. There is no correct answer to a hypothetical question because the author of the question can continue to invent qualifications no matter how a respondent answers.
We understand that when your bigotry is pointed out to you that you respond by flights of fancy into fiction or, as your predecessor Adolf Hitler humorously called it, Wolkenkuckucksheim (cloud cuckoo land).
Thank you for your effort to understand. Now go away. [:)]
DaveJ,
I want you to read this carefully.
We do not have time, interest, or reason to argue hypothetical questions with you. There is no correct answer to a hypothetical question because the author of the question can continue to invent qualifications no matter how a respondent answers.
We understand that when your bigotry is pointed out to you that you respond by flights of fancy into fiction or, as your predecessor Adolf Hitler humorously called it, Wolkenkuckucksheim (cloud cuckoo land).
Thank you for your effort to understand. Now go away. [:)]
It'd probably be best if someone read it to him.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
DaveJ,
I want you to read this carefully.
We do not have time, interest, or reason to argue hypothetical questions with you. There is no correct answer to a hypothetical question because the author of the question can continue to invent qualifications no matter how a respondent answers.
We understand that when your bigotry is pointed out to you that you respond by flights of fancy into fiction or, as your predecessor Adolf Hitler humorously called it, Wolkenkuckucksheim (cloud cuckoo land).
Thank you for your effort to understand. Now go away. [:)]
I'm sure that you'd like me to go away. I've asked many Jews that same question over the years. Not one has ever answered the question honestly. Some walk away mad others like you evade giving a honest answer or resort to name calling to avoid the issue. I will ask you once more in a simpler form. If you had to choose between supporting Israel or supporting the U.S. which would you choose ? Do you have the courage to say Israel or are you going to evade giving a answer like every other Jew I've run into. I'm sure that most posters would have no problem saying that they would support the U.S. ...they are not Jews.
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
DaveJ,
I want you to read this carefully.
We do not have time, interest, or reason to argue hypothetical questions with you. There is no correct answer to a hypothetical question because the author of the question can continue to invent qualifications no matter how a respondent answers.
We understand that when your bigotry is pointed out to you that you respond by flights of fancy into fiction or, as your predecessor Adolf Hitler humorously called it, Wolkenkuckucksheim (cloud cuckoo land).
Thank you for your effort to understand. Now go away. [:)]
I'm sure that you'd like me to go away. I've asked many Jews that same question over the years. Not one has ever answered the question honestly. Some walk away mad others like you evade giving a honest answer or resort to name calling to avoid the issue. I will ask you once more in a simpler form. If you had to choose between supporting Israel or supporting the U.S. which would you choose ? Do you have the courage to say Israel or are you going to evade giving a answer like every other Jew I've run into. I'm sure that most posters would have no problem saying that they would support the U.S. ...they are not Jews.
I am a Presbyterian. You are a bigot.
Tell us about your service to our country. Which branch, when and where.
One must earn the right to judge, and you have not.
quote:Originally posted by DaveJ
quote:Originally posted by tallcharlie
DaveJ,
I want you to read this carefully.
We do not have time, interest, or reason to argue hypothetical questions with you. There is no correct answer to a hypothetical question because the author of the question can continue to invent qualifications no matter how a respondent answers.
We understand that when your bigotry is pointed out to you that you respond by flights of fancy into fiction or, as your predecessor Adolf Hitler humorously called it, Wolkenkuckucksheim (cloud cuckoo land).
Thank you for your effort to understand. Now go away. [:)]
I'm sure that you'd like me to go away. I've asked many Jews that same question over the years. Not one has ever answered the question honestly. Some walk away mad others like you evade giving a honest answer or resort to name calling to avoid the issue. I will ask you once more in a simpler form. If you had to choose between supporting Israel or supporting the U.S. which would you choose ? Do you have the courage to say Israel or are you going to evade giving a answer like every other Jew I've run into. I'm sure that most posters would have no problem saying that they would support the U.S. ...they are not Jews.
I am a Presbyterian. You are a bigot.
Tell us about your service to our country. Which branch, when and where.
One must earn the right to judge, and you have not.
You might at least state that you would support the U.S. before any other nation. Ask any Jew that you meet if he or she would support the U.S. rather than Israel. Start counting the traitors that the question exposes.
If attempting to expose those who have murdered our Presidents, involved us in a war, wrecked our economy and backed attacks on this country earns me the title of bigot, I'll accept the title with pride. Does your attitude and your statements about Muslims make you a bigot. A Jew bigot.......[^]
After noting your remark about the Irgun.......There is no doubt about you being a Jew and not admitting to it. They were cold blooded butchers who murdered Jews and anyone else who got in their way.
Eight years of military duty with honorable discharges and a lot of physical damage.