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Ted Cruz para Presidente

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edited March 2015 in Politics

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  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 19,071 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like Ted Cruz even in Mexican he is 100 times better than Jeb.
    RLTW

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 11,079 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I like Ted Cruz even in Mexican he is 100 times better than Jeb.



    He and Walker are the best so far.


    Good to see the NJ lard * is out.
    I agree, JEB needs to go away as well or run on the socialist ticket where he could be the nominee. Not much difference between JEB and Obama.
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    He's Canadian. Not Mexican.
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,164 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 19,071 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    He's Canadian. Not Mexican.


    I was referring to the video.

    He was born in Canada but his Mom is American. He passes the test as "Natural Born" see here:

    The consensus was that someone is a "natural born" citizen if they have citizenship at birth and don't have to go through a naturalization process to become a citizen.

    If that's the definition, then Cruz is a natural born citizen by being born to an American mother and having her citizenship at birth. (This same logic would apply to Obama, even if he were born in another country, which he wasn't.)
    RLTW

  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,884 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    And his father is Cuban. Not Messican.
    He is probably the best qualified person to be President in 50 years.
    I like him.[8D]
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......

    1. Obama's mother was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship to him.
    2. He expatriated his citizenship when he was legally adopted by an Indonesian national, making his point of birth irrelevant.
    3. He could have reclaimed his citizenship without prejudice upon returning to the U.S. by remaining in the U.S. continuously for a period of 10 years. He did not do this. He traveled abroad during this time.

    Obama's place of birth remains elusive, but the facts of his adoption and the citizenship laws going with that are not open to dispute. They were simply ignored to immaculate him.

    John McCain was born to two Americans both old enough to confer citizenship, in an American Territory, the Canal Zone.

    I have no idea of Ted Cruz's lineage but will be happy to look into it, as if he's not eligible to be President, then my objections to him taking office or running would be the same as for Obama.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 18,801
    edited November -1
    His father was born in Cuba and was an anti-Batista fighter who later turned anti-Castro when his communist bent became apparent. He then fled to the US and came up the hard way, earning his degree at UT Texas and is now a pastor in the Dallas area.

    His mother is from Delaware and of Irish/Italian descent.

    He was born in Canada when his parents lived there while working in the oil industry.
  • TwoDogsTwoDogs Member Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I give him 90 days before
    he steps on his tongue.
    He knows he has no shot.
    However, if he does not muck up
    he may get on the ticket as VP.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,672 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If this is your standard political campaign it will go something like this:

    Hillary has already been anointed as the Democrat candidate. She will sail through without competition and nothing but praise, even from the Democrats who hate her guts.

    The Republicans will have somewhere between fifteen and twenty candidates. Long time friends will cut each other to bloody ribbons. No Republican will have anything good to say about another Republican.

    There will be no need for Hillary to rip-up the Republican. The Republicans will have already done that.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • cranky2cranky2 Member Posts: 3,235 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is so nice to watch someone give a speech without a teleprompter.
    I think he has a shot, lots better than McCain.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,925
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    And his father is Cuban. Not Messican.
    He is probably the best qualified person to be President in 50 years.
    I like him.[8D]


    So glad it's not necessary for me to point this out. [:D]
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 19,071 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know is dad is cuban but the video if you watched it was in Mexican.
    RLTW

  • cbyerlycbyerly Member Posts: 703 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bet the Democrats are doing their "happy dance" now that the most divisive person in the Republican party is running. His huge ego will prevent a united party in 2016.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jonk
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......

    1. Obama's mother was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship to him.
    2. He expatriated his citizenship when he was legally adopted by an Indonesian national, making his point of birth irrelevant.
    3. He could have reclaimed his citizenship without prejudice upon returning to the U.S. by remaining in the U.S. continuously for a period of 10 years. He did not do this. He traveled abroad during this time.

    Obama's place of birth remains elusive, but the facts of his adoption and the citizenship laws going with that are not open to dispute. They were simply ignored to immaculate him.

    John McCain was born to two Americans both old enough to confer citizenship, in an American Territory, the Canal Zone.

    I have no idea of Ted Cruz's lineage but will be happy to look into it, as if he's not eligible to be President, then my objections to him taking office or running would be the same as for Obama.


    This hits all relevant points.
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,164 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting; thanks for replying. quote:Originally posted by jonk
    quote:Originally posted by reload999
    I guess I'm slow, but I just learned that he was born in Canada, to an american citizen mother...that makes him a "natural born" American citizen eligible to run for Prez? Seems it was a similar situation for McCain. Seems odd to me. Now, if he had been born in Kenya......

    1. Obama's mother was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship to him.
    2. He expatriated his citizenship when he was legally adopted by an Indonesian national, making his point of birth irrelevant.
    3. He could have reclaimed his citizenship without prejudice upon returning to the U.S. by remaining in the U.S. continuously for a period of 10 years. He did not do this. He traveled abroad during this time.

    Obama's place of birth remains elusive, but the facts of his adoption and the citizenship laws going with that are not open to dispute. They were simply ignored to immaculate him.

    John McCain was born to two Americans both old enough to confer citizenship, in an American Territory, the Canal Zone.

    I have no idea of Ted Cruz's lineage but will be happy to look into it, as if he's not eligible to be President, then my objections to him taking office or running would be the same as for Obama.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,788
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    If this is your standard political campaign it will go something like this:

    Hillary has already been anointed as the Democrat candidate. She will sail through without competition and nothing but praise, even from the Democrats who hate her guts.

    The Republicans will have somewhere between fifteen and twenty candidates. Long time friends will cut each other to bloody ribbons. No Republican will have anything good to say about another Republican.

    There will be no need for Hillary to rip-up the Republican. The Republicans will have already done that.


    And then a goodly portion of the right will declare that they disagree with the Republican nominee on some issue or another, and therefore the guy is no different from Hillary.
  • TwoDogsTwoDogs Member Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Even worse, if Perry can shake his Felony
    indictment(which I doubt)there will be two
    lugnuts embarrassing my home state.

    Neither have the campaign funds.
    Jeb has/will have it all.
    We all know the office now goes to
    the highest bidder.
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,426 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hate it that these poliiticians start running this far in advance. By the time Iowa gets here Im sick of hearing their bs. And you can take it to the bank...if Jeb makes it to the General election our new POTUS will be Hildabeast.
  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would be happy with Cruz, Walker or Rubio - with either of the others being VP.

    Jeb may have an early advantage, but it's hardly written in stone that he will be the nominee. It's very possible that any of the three above could knock him out of the race with a good campaign.

    And Hilly is not yet anointed. The looney Left wants Pocahontas (Warren,) and will try to undercut Hilly. The WH has already done so to a degree by leaking the illegal e-mail server. If her email scandal can't be wished away to the cornfield, it's possible that she can be eliminated from the race.

    So it's all very much up in the air at this point.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    If he gets very far, which ain't likely, there will be a court fight over his eligibility to be President. His mother was an American but his father did not become one until 2005. Plus his father fought for Castro, he was a Socialist Revolutionary. He was briefly a political refugee in the USA but went to Canada and became a Canadian citizen. Which is where his son Ted was born.

    Had Ted Cruz the foresight to be born of two American parents on an American military base, as McCain did, then he'd be a Natural Born American.

    But born off American soil? To an ex-Cuban Socialist Revolutionary Canadian father and an American ex-pat mother? Then he took until just recently to renounce his Canadian citizenship?

    Oh yeah, some lawyers are going to have a fun time with this guy alright.

    We need a pragmatic and successful State Governor of clear lineage to being a Natural Born American. Not a showboater of muddled claim to citizenship.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,233 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It doesn't matter who is elected,we all lose states rights...
  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Legal experts say Cruz is an American. FAR better than what we have now. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/23/legal-experts-say-canadian-born-cruz-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/?mod=smallbusiness/

    If Cruz's father was a Socialist, he's certainly changed... http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/23/legal-experts-say-canadian-born-cruz-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/?mod=smallbusiness/

    Besides, in this country we don't accuse the son of the sins of the father.
  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Legal experts say Cruz is an American. FAR better than what we have now. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/23/legal-experts-say-canadian-born-cruz-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/?mod=smallbusiness/

    If Cruz's father was a Socialist, he's certainly changed... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/06/ted-cruzs-father-delivers-epic-speech-touting-patriotism-and-lambasting-obamas-socialist-inclinations/

    Besides, in this country we don't accuse the son of the sins of the father.
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sam06
    I know is dad is cuban but the video if you watched it was in Mexican.


    So if he's Cuban, why were they talkin Mexican??

    Does he speak Mexican??

    Can he even count to ten in Mexican??

    Or can he talk Cuban??

    I asked some of my Canadian friends if they thought it was a dealbreaker...

    They said "Oui".
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member Posts: 59,616 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
    quote:Originally posted by ChrisInTempe
    If he gets very far, which ain't likely, there will be a court fight over his eligibility to be President. His mother was an American but his father did not become one until 2005. Plus his father fought for Castro, he was a Socialist Revolutionary. He was briefly a political refugee in the USA but went to Canada and became a Canadian citizen. Which is where his son Ted was born.

    Had Ted Cruz the foresight to be born of two American parents on an American military base, as McCain did, then he'd be a Natural Born American.

    But born off American soil? To an ex-Cuban Socialist Revolutionary Canadian father and an American ex-pat mother? Then he took until just recently to renounce his Canadian citizenship?

    Oh yeah, some lawyers are going to have a fun time with this guy alright.

    We need a pragmatic and successful State Governor of clear lineage to being a Natural Born American. Not a showboater of muddled claim to citizenship.

    You mean like your boy obama?
    That appears to be exactly what Chrisintempe means. Buyers remorse?[:D][:D]
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 31,137 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    And his father is Cuban. Not Messican.
    He is probably the best qualified person to be President in 50 years.
    I like him.[8D]

    If he is the nominee I will send his campaign money, screw the (R) party.

    He would make a fine POTUS! [^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^][^]
  • popgunpopgun Member Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:
    So if he's Cuban, why were they talkin Mexican??



    I believe it's called, "Spanish." Cuba, Mexico and several South American countries speak Spanish. We speak English, but we're not English.
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by popgun
    quote:
    So if he's Cuban, why were they talkin Mexican??



    I believe it's called, "Spanish." Cuba, Mexico and several South American countries speak Spanish. We speak English, but we're not English.


    He's from Spain now??!!??

    Is that his mom?
  • Aspen79seAspen79se Member Posts: 4,707
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by TwoDogs
    Even worse, if Perry can shake his Felony
    indictment(which I doubt)there will be two
    lugnuts embarrassing my home state.

    Neither have the campaign funds.
    Jeb has/will have it all.
    We all know the office now goes to
    the highest bidder.


    Cruz has the exact chances as Herman Cain.
  • Ford 23Ford 23 Member Posts: 3,129
    edited November -1
    quote:bpost

    If he is the nominee I will send his campaign money, screw the (R) party.

    quote:He would make a fine POTUS

    I will send donations also, it might be the main source of his campaign money. Drive the Rhinos nuts if he was heavily financed by the average John Doe.

    The Weasel McConnell, the Orange man Boehner and Fat * Rove commenced scheming about five minutes after his speech was done. They know he is trouble for them along with other Rhinos if he is successful
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,788
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Aspen79se
    quote:Originally posted by TwoDogs
    Even worse, if Perry can shake his Felony
    indictment(which I doubt)there will be two
    lugnuts embarrassing my home state.

    Neither have the campaign funds.
    Jeb has/will have it all.
    We all know the office now goes to
    the highest bidder.


    Cruz has the exact chances as Herman Cain.

    It will be difficult to overcome the stupidity shown by all the people who voted for Obama.

    Twice.
  • tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cbyerly
    I bet the Democrats are doing their "happy dance" now that the most divisive person in the Republican party is running. His huge ego will prevent a united party in 2016.
    A united Republican party means John Boehner and Mitch McConnell and others of their ilk.

    Is that what you want?
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