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The Donald is all in..

select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2015 in Politics
Just announced running for President.
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Just announced running for President.
    I sure hope he ask me for a donation...
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now we have a real clown show.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Now we have a real clown show.


    Stealing his line huh? He just used that describing all the other candidates.
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    ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562 ✭
    edited November -1
    He does this for the media attention.
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    NOAHNOAH Member Posts: 9,690
    edited November -1
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Now we have a real clown show.


    Stealing his line huh? He just used that describing all the other candidates.


    The left has been calling the GOP field a clown show for months.

    I did not hear Trump's announcement, but him picking up the line is just comical.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,603 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He'll not get the Republican nomination and then if he runs as an independent it'll be just like when Ross Perot ran. He'll get enough republicans to vote for him to where It'll put another Clinton in the White House just like when Slick Willie ran against Bush Sr..
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    he did come right out and say he would get hid of obamas healt care and build a wall on the mexican border and build the armed forces back up and was for the second admendment, but we all know saying it and doing it are different cats. mr myopic.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lqdErI9uss
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He may be singing a different tune today, but as of 2000 and 2012, Trump was a big fan of Governmental Control over firearm choices and purchase.



    http://www.examiner.com/article/past-statements-and-actions-show-donald-trump-wrong-choice-for-gun-owners

    'I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today's Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.'

    Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000

    From a comparison to Huckabee in 2012:

    http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Huckabee&vs=Trump&on=Gun-Control

    ' Trump believes that assault weapons should be banned, "who needs them except criminals and police?"'
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Huckabee&vs=Trump&on=Gun-Control

    ' Trump believes that assault weapons should be banned, "who needs them except criminals and police?"'
    he doesn't need all that money. nobody needs that much money except the government, and anybody with that much money can only be up to no good. he needs to turn it over to the government.
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    shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    Now we have a real clown show.


    He ought to make it fun to watch, but he has little chance IMO. As you pointed out he is a no-go on guns. His announcement was nothing more than a circus though. Hey if I had a couple billion to blow I'd jump and make an * of myself too!!
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    ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nothing more than free publicity for the Apprentice.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Huckabee&vs=Trump&on=Gun-Control

    ' Trump believes that assault weapons should be banned, "who needs them except criminals and police?"'
    he doesn't need all that money. nobody needs that much money except the government, and anybody with that much money can only be up to no good. he needs to turn it over to the government.


    That sounds exactly like Obama's share the wealth program. I don't care how much money folks have.. they earned it .. none of anyone's business.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Huckabee&vs=Trump&on=Gun-Control

    ' Trump believes that assault weapons should be banned, "who needs them except criminals and police?"'
    he doesn't need all that money. nobody needs that much money except the government, and anybody with that much money can only be up to no good. he needs to turn it over to the government.


    That sounds exactly like Obama's share the wealth program. I don't care how much money folks have.. they earned it .. none of anyone's business.


    I guess you missed the sarcasm...
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Huckabee&vs=Trump&on=Gun-Control

    ' Trump believes that assault weapons should be banned, "who needs them except criminals and police?"'
    he doesn't need all that money. nobody needs that much money except the government, and anybody with that much money can only be up to no good. he needs to turn it over to the government.


    That sounds exactly like Obama's share the wealth program. I don't care how much money folks have.. they earned it .. none of anyone's business.


    I guess you missed the sarcasm...


    I didn't see anything in green
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire

    That sounds exactly like Obama's share the wealth program. I don't care how much money folks have.. they earned it .. none of anyone's business.


    The fact that the comment went over your head aside:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/04/29/fourth-times-a-charm-how-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/


    One could make the argument that some of Trump's money is stolen:

    'First things first: Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. All of these bankruptcies were connected to over-leveraged casino and hotel properties in Atlantic City, all of which are now operated under the banner of Trump Entertainment Resorts. He has never filed for personal bankruptcy - an important distinction when considering his ability to emerge relatively unscathed, at least financially.'

    For a man to have filed for Chapter 11 protection 4 times, and not been man enough to cover debt out of his personal wealth is disgusting to me. He should study how Eddie Rickenbacker handled a similar problem.

    These bankruptcies and how Trump skated by them is a disqualifier for me. How many mom and pop service providers were stiffed by him?

    It is legal. It is also immoral, and it will close the door on any chance he thinks he has.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire

    I didn't see anything in green


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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire

    That sounds exactly like Obama's share the wealth program. I don't care how much money folks have.. they earned it .. none of anyone's business.


    The fact that the comment went over your head aside:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/04/29/fourth-times-a-charm-how-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/


    One could make the argument that some of Trump's money is stolen:

    'First things first: Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. All of these bankruptcies were connected to over-leveraged casino and hotel properties in Atlantic City, all of which are now operated under the banner of Trump Entertainment Resorts. He has never filed for personal bankruptcy - an important distinction when considering his ability to emerge relatively unscathed, at least financially.'

    For a man to have filed for Chapter 11 protection 4 times, and not been man enough to cover debt out of his personal wealth is disgusting to me. He should study how Eddie Rickenbacker handled a similar problem.

    These bankruptcies and how Trump skated by them is a disqualifier for me. How many mom and pop service providers were stiffed by him?

    It is legal. It is also immoral, and it will close the door on any chance he thinks he has.


    Just the opposite. It shows how smart he is. He didn't make the law.. just remember that.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    But I do understand how some folks just hate success of another man.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just wondering whom he will choose as a running mate for VP
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire

    That sounds exactly like Obama's share the wealth program. I don't care how much money folks have.. they earned it .. none of anyone's business.


    The fact that the comment went over your head aside:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/04/29/fourth-times-a-charm-how-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/


    One could make the argument that some of Trump's money is stolen:

    'First things first: Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009. All of these bankruptcies were connected to over-leveraged casino and hotel properties in Atlantic City, all of which are now operated under the banner of Trump Entertainment Resorts. He has never filed for personal bankruptcy - an important distinction when considering his ability to emerge relatively unscathed, at least financially.'

    For a man to have filed for Chapter 11 protection 4 times, and not been man enough to cover debt out of his personal wealth is disgusting to me. He should study how Eddie Rickenbacker handled a similar problem.

    These bankruptcies and how Trump skated by them is a disqualifier for me. How many mom and pop service providers were stiffed by him?

    It is legal. It is also immoral, and it will close the door on any chance he thinks he has.


    Just the opposite. It shows how smart he is. He didn't make the law.. just remember that.


    It shows he can manipulate the system. It shows he will keep his whilst taking from others. Sure he did not make the law, but he did not have to take advantage of it either.

    Life is a series of choices. Remember that.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Choices.. He made a large one today. He has a few attorneys are sharp as tacks. Nothing wrong whatsoever how he runs his business' . Just remember how ol' Ross Perot .... he was so stupid.. sold his company to General Motors .. warned the Politicians of that great " Sucking sound " of jobs leaving the U.S.A. and nobody payed attention. Well they should have. He was also a business man.
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    tsavo303tsavo303 Member Posts: 8,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    New York republican = anti gunner
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    ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562 ✭
    edited November -1
    Trump does not want to be President. He wants to gain publicity of himself. He will spend a little money and poke at the game a while. Eventually he will fade away or drop out.

    This is one of the two things he knows how to do well. Self promotion and big real estate.

    After that, all he's got left is his hair styling skills.
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    cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,425 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sure I remember that s-f. Ross repeated often but as you said, nobody paid attention. Perhaps they do now.
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
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    wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, based on his speech he's in to pull the other candidates farther right and beyond that comic relief. However....I would love to see him in a debate with the Hildabeast.
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    TwoDogsTwoDogs Member Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Just wondering whom he will choose as a running mate for VP


    He will never get that far.
    I assume you were joking.
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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    all assumptions set aside, all predictions set aside, say they both make it through the primary's



    who would you vote for

    1 trump

    2 hilldabeast











    you guys can speculate all you want, bet none of you really believed who is in the white house now in 08
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Every news outlet from left to right recognizes that a Donald Trump Presidential bid is a joke.

    Heard a few clips from his announcement last night.

    It is obvious from his speech that he himself knows he's a joke.

    He has stated that he knows how to handle ISIS, but is keeping it a secret. This line in and of itself proves he is not serious.

    What is interesting to me is why someone with his money would do this. He already has weekly publicity time on Fox News. He already has weekly publicity time on his Apprentice TV Show.

    Running for POTUS has been used for self-promotion before, but not usually by someone who already has venues available.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    all assumptions set aside, all predictions set aside, say they both make it through the primary's

    who would you vote for

    1 trump

    2 hilldabeast

    you guys can speculate all you want, bet none of you really believed who is in the white house now in 08


    If it looked like Congress would go GOP, and I was forced at gunpoint to vote for one or the other, I would vote for Clinton.

    If it looked like Congress would go Democrat and I was forced at gunpoint to vote for one or the other, I would vote for Trump.

    If no one had a gun to my head, regardless of Congress, I would vote for neither.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    If it looked like Congress would go GOP, and I was forced at gunpoint to vote for one or the other, I would vote for Clinton.what???? I think you got some explaining to do!
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,473 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by buschmaster
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    If it looked like Congress would go GOP, and I was forced at gunpoint to vote for one or the other, I would vote for Clinton.what???? I think you got some explaining to do!


    Trump, like Clinton, is a big government advocate.

    I am equally against neo-con big government as I am against progressive big government.

    If our choices become so horrible, I will vote for the combination that I feel will accomplish the least.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    buddybbuddyb Member Posts: 5,242 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought it was a big joke when Ronald Reagan announced he was running for president and now I consider him as the last real president we have had.
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yepper....where have the AMERICA FIRST candidates gone ???????????
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    ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562 ✭
    edited November -1
    The Donald is all in..


    The thing is, he is not "all in". He's lying. He always does this. He will not spend the money or invest the time. He will run a show for a while. It assuages his ego. It pumps up his media profile. Somehow he thinks it's good for his business ventures.

    Heck, maybe he's right, maybe it is somehow a benefit to his money making deals.

    But serious about going into politics?
    Serious about going "all in" for the Presidency?

    Nope, not "The Donald".

    That's just not his schtick.
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    drl50drl50 Member Posts: 2,496 ✭
    edited November -1
    Here is a 70 year old egomaniac with a red bouffant hair-do and zero political experience, that touts his intermittent wealth as tantamount to brilliance in anything and everything. Broke, then rich, then broke, then rich again. How does that relate to what this country needs?. Guess what.... YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!
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    JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,174 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trump talks a good talk but most good con men do, I'm very leery of him, he keeps repeating he has assets of 9 billion dollar but speaks nothing of his liabilities so he could be technically broke for all we know [?]. I'd like to see a certified copy of his financial statement from an independent CPA firm (not his firm) stating his "net" wealth, I went to business school too, although a different one [:D]. 4 bankruptcies does not make a man rich, just sly & poisonous to deal with [;)]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by drl50
    Here is a 70 year old egomaniac with a red bouffant hair-do and zero political experience, that touts his intermittent wealth as tantamount to brilliance in anything and everything. Broke, then rich, then broke, then rich again. How does that relate to what this country needs?. Guess what.... YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!




    we are talking Donald trump not our current president



    anything is possible, remember who is voting now are the same people that voted him in not once but twice
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At least he has the balls to use his own money, Not be P.C. and tell the the brain dead lemmings of this country what is wrong with it. Until that resonates, you get another Bush Clinton.
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