Jews selling their own down the river

bpostbpost Member Posts: 30,921 ✭✭✭✭
edited September 2015 in Politics

Here are the Senate Jewish Democrats in support of the Iranian nuclear deal.
- Michael Bennet
- Barbara Boxer
- Dianne Feinstein
- Al Franken
- Brian Schatz
- Bernie Sanders

Several House Jewish Democrats have also come out in support of the deal including Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

The deal is wildly unpopular in America.
Only 27 percent of Americans believe Congress should approve the deal.
Miami Herald reported:

U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Weston, who heads the national Democratic Party, has announced she will support the controversial Iran nuclear deal that is a top priority for President Barack Obama but has faced widespread voter criticism, including in Florida.

In a five-and-a-half page statement released exclusively to the Miami Herald on Sunday morning, Wasserman Schultz wrote that after wrestling with the agreement she still has concerns but will support it.

"I have subsequently come to the conclusion that the agreement promotes the national security interests of the United States and our allies and merits my vote of support ." she wrote. "This agreement is not perfect. But I join many in the belief that with complex, multilateral, nuclear non-proliferation negotiations with inherent geopolitical implications for the entire world, there is no such thing as a `perfect' deal."

She appeared on CNN's State of the Union Sunday morning to speak about her decision.

35 Senate Democrats (with Senator Booker) have now come out in support of the nuclear deal.


  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 38,925
    edited November -1
    lets send those that approve it over to the Tehran airport and see how well they are recieved
  • us55840us55840 Member Posts: 31,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    From the historical documentation, they did the same thing in the Nazi death camps.

    "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    I believe it may be time to understand that while those of Jewish ancestry may share the same roots, this does not necessarily make them the same politically.

    Somehow liberal Jews here and abroad have divorced themselves from the idea that they belong to a persecuted race. They forget the Holocaust and they somehow forget that their direct cousins who espouse Islam would gladly see all Jews dead. This goes especially for the brain-dead Jews such as Wasserman.

    Conservative Jews such as Mark Levin are a different breed. They understand the implications of the Nazi-like Islamic threat and the danger to all non Islamic believers... And even believers for that matter. If one were to read between the lines it would appear that Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and Israel all recognize that their greatest enemy is now Iran. They may well place their petty differences aside in favor of mutual survival. Wouldn't that be interesting?
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,225 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ....well,they sold the Christ down the river for a thief![:o)]
  • JgreenJgreen Member Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Jews can't win.

    If they remember the lessons from the Holocaust (If someone says they want to kill you, believe them and kill them first) they are being cruel, inhumane, etc.

    If they say "well, times are different", now they are stupid and don't remember.

    If an American Jew says "It's good for America", then he's accused of "selling out their own". If they say "It's bad for Israel", now they are disloyal.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,499 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Times were much better before white American male gun owners became terrorists in their own country. Seems like everything in this country has, as the old saying goes, "Gone to hell in a hand basket." Except for, of course, those people who embrace the progressive anti-traditional American ideals.
    What's next?
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 30,921 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Given the ongoing tensions within Judaism regarding acculturation to the general culture and the attempt to restore Jews to the community of nations, the rejection of the Sephardic model of what in Arabic is called "Adab," a model of behavior based on a literate humanistic manner, has been disastrous. Given the contentiousness of so much of Jewish discourse on both the Left as well as the Right, the seemingly robust nature of Jewish life at present hides a profound discombobulation that has led us to dysfunction and political catastrophe.

    Rather than seeing cultural integration as its preferred ideal, contemporary Jews seek to mark out their parochial territory and battle it out. These battles frequently spill over to become global contests, particularly in Israel where the Ashkenazi ideal of fractiousness has been taken to absurd extremes.

    The Sephardic ideal has always been understood in terms of political moderation and community unity. Rarely did Sephardim lose their internal cohesion -- that is, until the process of cultural erosion set in. Following the Ashkenazi lead, Sephardim abandoned their traditional culture and adapted to the fractious Ashkenazi model. Under the rubric of a single Jewish nation, the Sephardi particularity, with its cultural genius and sophisticated social mores, has become a lost value. The Ashkenazi culture, with its deeply unsettled relationship to the larger world, has now become the Jewish standard.

    In terms of the Jewish future, the Sephardi-Ashkenazi split is of immense importance. Understanding the cultural differences between the two groups is vital for our political interests. Ironically, even the articulation of these differences has become a dangerous matter given the ways in which Ashkenazi Jews have come to dominate Jewish life the world over. The third rail of Jewish politics is one that has served to destabilize a civilization that at one time valued the Sephardic tradition as its most valuable model of cultural identity.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 30,921 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Who are Ashkenazic Jews?

    Ashkenazic Jews are the Jews of France, Germany, and Eastern Europe and their descendants. The adjective "Ashkenazic" and corresponding nouns, Ashkenazi (singular) and Ashkenazim (plural) are derived from the Hebrew word "Ashkenaz," which is used to refer to Germany. Most American Jews today are Ashkenazim, descended from Jews who emigrated from Germany and Eastern Europe from the mid 1800s to the early 1900s. The pages in this site are written from the Ashkenazic Jewish perspective.
    Who are Sephardic Jews?

    Sephardic Jews are the Jews of Spain, Portugal, North Africa and the Middle East and their descendants. The adjective "Sephardic" and corresponding nouns Sephardi (singular) and Sephardim (plural) are derived from the Hebrew word "Sepharad," which refers to Spain.

    Sephardic Jews are often subdivided into Sephardim, from Spain and Portugal, and Mizrachim, from the Northern Africa and the Middle East. The word "Mizrachi" comes from the Hebrew word for Eastern. There is much overlap between the Sephardim and Mizrachim. Until the 1400s, the Iberian Peninsula, North Africa and the Middle East were all controlled by Muslims, who generally allowed Jews to move freely throughout the region. It was under this relatively benevolent rule that Sephardic Judaism developed. When the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, many of them were absorbed into existing Mizrachi communities in Northern Africa and the Middle East.

    Most of the early Jewish settlers of North America were Sephardic. The first Jewish congregation in North America, Shearith Israel, founded in what is now New York in 1684, was Sephardic and is still active. Philadelphia's first Jewish congregation, Congregation Mikveh Israel, founded in 1740, was also a Sephardic one, and is also still active.

    In Israel, a little more than half of all Jews are Mizrachim, descended from Jews who have been in the land since ancient times or who were forced out of Arab countries after Israel was founded. Most of the rest are Ashkenazic, descended from Jews who came to the Holy Land (then controlled by the Ottoman Turks) instead of the United States in the late 1800s, or from Holocaust survivors, or from other immigrants who came at various times. About 1% of the Israeli population are the black Ethiopian Jews who fled during the brutal Ethiopian famine in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,863 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pwillie
    ....well,they sold the Christ down the river for a thief![:o)]

    As would have every gentile.
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
  • BarzilliaBarzillia Member Posts: 21,863 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Anger has two children -.hope, and courage." Augustine, Bishop of Hippo

    "Und es wird nicht hineingehen irgend ein Gemeines und das da Greuel tut und Luge,
    sondern die geschrieben sind in dem Lebensbuch des Lammes."
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