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quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
I'll gamble on trump before I will a career politician. That said, I'll vote for whomever the nominee is.
Will you anti-trumpeters vote for trump if he is nominated?
I have said before, if the GOP makes the mistake of giving Trump the nomination, they will have lost me as a GOP voter yet again. I don't want another McCain or Romney candidate that does not respect the rule of the constitution. Period. And so, if Trump gets the nod, I will indeed vote 3rd party again.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
His "cover" has been pretty transparent all this time... to anyone paying attention anyway.[:I]
The Trump supporter isn't exactly big on facts or details. It is frightening how many ignorant people exist in this country.
The truly ignorant are the folks that catogorize a "supporter" as ignorant. It shows a true lack of intellect or the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
A Trump supporter can't even tell you what Trump stands for, because Trump can't tell you what he stands for. A slogan "making America great again" is not standing for something, it is a slogan. Hell, Hitler told the people of Germany in 1938 that he wanted to make Germany great again.
Now Hitler? If you don't understand, then you are probably just not that bright.
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
Bush Jr. went after Saddam and Iraq because Saddam threatened his daddy, he just needed an excuse to go to war and the WMDs were it as he didn't care if it was true or not.
My opinion on Trump and is still my opinion. Trump says and states facts that the others don't want to.
Poor ole Jeb trying to bring Bro into to it to help him. That is as bad as Hillary bringing slick in to try and help her.
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
His "cover" has been pretty transparent all this time... to anyone paying attention anyway.[:I]
The Trump supporter isn't exactly big on facts or details. It is frightening how many ignorant people exist in this country.
The truly ignorant are the folks that catogorize a "supporter" as ignorant. It shows a true lack of intellect or the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
A Trump supporter can't even tell you what Trump stands for, because Trump can't tell you what he stands for. A slogan "making America great again" is not standing for something, it is a slogan. Hell, Hitler told the people of Germany in 1938 that he wanted to make Germany great again.
Now Hitler? If you don't understand, then you are probably just not that bright.
He is tapping into the same nationalist fervor, emotion not substance. Trump is a liberal, always has been, always will be. He supports abortion, raising taxes on the job creators, Obamacare and liberal judges. He says he'll build a wall but supports amnesty. He's a liberal, if you want to vote for a liberal that is your perogative. I will not vote for him period. He IMO is not much different than Hillary Clinton. His entire campaign is based on not having any core values and the ability to make deals. Well Ia m not interested in someone that has no core values and is only interested in making deals.
quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
Trump is a democrat. He got mad and accidentally blew his cover in the last debate with the George Bush lied line.
Trump is running as a Republican in name only...he is really "running" as an independent...he is going after the middle/independant voter but is really after the digusted dems and repubs...and there are plenty of them...the numbers speak for themselves
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
They are very different types of businessmen, Mr. Fire.
One, for example, did not declared bankruptcy four times and screw the small business vendors that served his establishments via stock transfers to satisfy the bankers. Again, Ross Perot was an honorable and patriotic American businessman in the best way. Trump is a different type of businessman entirely.
I may have missed something, perhaps, but it was way too superficial to be considered thought.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Tom Steyer, and Michael Bloomberg are also businessmen, successful, and undeniably smart.
Would you like to see them running the country based on the criteria you set, or would you like to take another stab at critical thinking?
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Tom Steyer, and Michael Bloomberg are also businessmen, successful, and undeniably smart.
Would you like to see them running the country based on the criteria you set, or would you like to take another stab at critical thinking?
I do wonder where this theory took hold that being a good business man, making lots of money translates to being prepared to be the President of the greatest country in the free world. He demonstrates time and time again that he does not have the temperament for the job. Trump has yet to demonstrate an appreciation or understanding of the Constitution. It amazes me that his supporters here, don't even question this about him.
He'll learn all that stuff on the job like the last prez. He's gonna be the nominee unless someone else can tap in the way he did. I wouldn't pick him as my first choice but I sure as hell won't sit at home and give it to the democrats like some here. Pathetic really.
I'll bet that this forum is full of establishment socialist progressives like Bush, McCain, Graham, and Rubio, who put their conservative values secondary to their agendas. [xx(] And, if the truth be known there might be a skunk democrat here as well.
quote:Originally posted by dennisnielsen
quote:Originally posted by kimi
I'll bet that this forum is full of establishment socialist progressives like Bush, McCain, Graham, and Rubio, who put their conservative values secondary to their agendas. [xx(] And, if the truth be known there might be a skunk democrat here as well.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
They are very different types of businessmen, Mr. Fire.
One, for example, did not declared bankruptcy four times and screw the small business vendors that served his establishments via stock transfers to satisfy the bankers. Again, Ross Perot was an honorable and patriotic American businessman in the best way. Trump is a different type of businessman entirely.
I may have missed something, perhaps, but it was way too superficial to be considered thought.
Mr. Vegan, Mr. Perot didn't speak up enough to win the election. I see no problem with Trump doing it. He is telling the American people what they are afraid to say about their govt. Make no mistake he will straighten out some of the mess this country is in. Won't be easy but Mr. Perot couldn't get his point across. That is the difference in the two
This year, I will be voting AGAINST the Democratic party candidate. Pretty simple. Whichever GOP candidate stands the best chance, gets my vote. No GOP candidate will ever perfectly mirror my values. But, they come closer than any Democratic candidate I have ever come across.
quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
This year, I will be voting AGAINST the Democratic party candidate. Pretty simple. Whichever GOP candidate stands the best chance, gets my vote. No GOP candidate will ever perfectly mirror my values. But, they come closer than any Democratic candidate I have ever come across.
I'm pretty sure that's how we got GWB and Obama.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
His "cover" has been pretty transparent all this time... to anyone paying attention anyway.[:I]
The Trump supporter isn't exactly big on facts or details. It is frightening how many ignorant people exist in this country.
The truly ignorant are the folks that catogorize a "supporter" as ignorant. It shows a true lack of intellect or the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
I can understand why people are atracted to the message Trump is selling. Trump is correct when he says that illegal immigration, Islamic extremism, economic growth and development...and a host of other topics would be getting minimum lip service at best had he not made the clear, though blustering statements he has. His message and those topics resonate with a large part of the electorate.
That said, I am not sure why other candidates have not been able to improve the delivery of his message, and widen the appeal. I can understand and appreciate the disgust and disillusionment with what is called the Establishment. Lord knows they have earned every bit of it. But if ultimately the goal is to replace the leadership, it will take better leadership, not blustering and bravado.
Trump's message is the answer. Trump is not, and we will face serious consequences if we don't take his message forward with better messengers.
X-ring again!^^^^^^^^^^^
"Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
"Trump's message is the answer. Trump is not, and we will face serious consequences if we don't take his message forward with better messengers."
Whom ever posted this is correct
On Ross Perot Do not forget that while the elder Bush was Pres. He lost his Huge contract with the Govt.. He ran 3rd party to get even so bush could not win We got slick willie and the hildabeast
I do agree about Ross though he was a patriot But he was vengful to the point that we are screwsd because of CLItON
I said when he took office we would be 20 years getiing over the Clintons.. I was wrong we may never get over that satanic Duo
For Rubio or Bush to take Trump's stand on immigration and the Syria situatition, for two, at this late date would not sell at all with the voters, nor the politicians they are in league with as they would be seen as flip-flopping yet again..
quote:Originally posted by pip5255
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
George bush lied allot, that does not make me a democrat
they all lie so what does that matter, I voted for both the Bushes and I'm supporting Trump, why because I can.
Some folks are able to learn from their mistakes. Patently, others are not.[:I]
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by kimi
For Rubio or Bush to take Trump's stand on immigration and the Syria situatition, for two, at this late date would not sell at all with the voters, nor the politicians they are in league with as they would be seen as flip-flopping yet again..
I cannot understand how Bush and Rubio can advocate of regime change in Syria, kimi.
The lessons of the past 15 years cannot be more obvious. It is either incredible ignorance, incredible hubris, or pandering at its worst, and throws completely out the window Bush's 'steady hand' arguement.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by kimi
For Rubio or Bush to take Trump's stand on immigration and the Syria situatition, for two, at this late date would not sell at all with the voters, nor the politicians they are in league with as they would be seen as flip-flopping yet again..
I cannot understand how Bush and Rubio can advocate of regime change in Syria, kimi.
The lessons of the past 15 years cannot be more obvious. It is either incredible ignorance, incredible hubris, or pandering at its worst, and throws completely out the window Bush's 'steady hand' arguement.
I honestly do not try to understand these kind of people.
Comments
They ALL lie.
Tom
Everyone needs to keep that in mind too [;)]
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
I'll gamble on trump before I will a career politician. That said, I'll vote for whomever the nominee is.
Will you anti-trumpeters vote for trump if he is nominated?
I have said before, if the GOP makes the mistake of giving Trump the nomination, they will have lost me as a GOP voter yet again. I don't want another McCain or Romney candidate that does not respect the rule of the constitution. Period. And so, if Trump gets the nod, I will indeed vote 3rd party again.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
His "cover" has been pretty transparent all this time... to anyone paying attention anyway.[:I]
The Trump supporter isn't exactly big on facts or details. It is frightening how many ignorant people exist in this country.
The truly ignorant are the folks that catogorize a "supporter" as ignorant. It shows a true lack of intellect or the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
A Trump supporter can't even tell you what Trump stands for, because Trump can't tell you what he stands for. A slogan "making America great again" is not standing for something, it is a slogan. Hell, Hitler told the people of Germany in 1938 that he wanted to make Germany great again.
Now Hitler? If you don't understand, then you are probably just not that bright.
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Brad Steele
I'll bet he goes 3rd Party.
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President Bernie Sanders.....get use to it!
Hillhag will win the Democrap nomination.
Trump will win the Republican nomination.
Bloomerass will slide in and win POTUS as an Independent.
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
My opinion on Trump and is still my opinion. Trump says and states facts that the others don't want to.
Poor ole Jeb trying to bring Bro into to it to help him. That is as bad as Hillary bringing slick in to try and help her.
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
His "cover" has been pretty transparent all this time... to anyone paying attention anyway.[:I]
The Trump supporter isn't exactly big on facts or details. It is frightening how many ignorant people exist in this country.
The truly ignorant are the folks that catogorize a "supporter" as ignorant. It shows a true lack of intellect or the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
A Trump supporter can't even tell you what Trump stands for, because Trump can't tell you what he stands for. A slogan "making America great again" is not standing for something, it is a slogan. Hell, Hitler told the people of Germany in 1938 that he wanted to make Germany great again.
Now Hitler? If you don't understand, then you are probably just not that bright.
He is tapping into the same nationalist fervor, emotion not substance. Trump is a liberal, always has been, always will be. He supports abortion, raising taxes on the job creators, Obamacare and liberal judges. He says he'll build a wall but supports amnesty. He's a liberal, if you want to vote for a liberal that is your perogative. I will not vote for him period. He IMO is not much different than Hillary Clinton. His entire campaign is based on not having any core values and the ability to make deals. Well Ia m not interested in someone that has no core values and is only interested in making deals.
Trump is a democrat. He got mad and accidentally blew his cover in the last debate with the George Bush lied line.
Trump is running as a Republican in name only...he is really "running" as an independent...he is going after the middle/independant voter but is really after the digusted dems and repubs...and there are plenty of them...the numbers speak for themselves
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
They are very different types of businessmen, Mr. Fire.
One, for example, did not declared bankruptcy four times and screw the small business vendors that served his establishments via stock transfers to satisfy the bankers. Again, Ross Perot was an honorable and patriotic American businessman in the best way. Trump is a different type of businessman entirely.
I may have missed something, perhaps, but it was way too superficial to be considered thought.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Tom Steyer, and Michael Bloomberg are also businessmen, successful, and undeniably smart.
Would you like to see them running the country based on the criteria you set, or would you like to take another stab at critical thinking?
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Tom Steyer, and Michael Bloomberg are also businessmen, successful, and undeniably smart.
Would you like to see them running the country based on the criteria you set, or would you like to take another stab at critical thinking?
I do wonder where this theory took hold that being a good business man, making lots of money translates to being prepared to be the President of the greatest country in the free world. He demonstrates time and time again that he does not have the temperament for the job. Trump has yet to demonstrate an appreciation or understanding of the Constitution. It amazes me that his supporters here, don't even question this about him.
quote:Originally posted by kimi
I'll bet that this forum is full of establishment socialist progressives like Bush, McCain, Graham, and Rubio, who put their conservative values secondary to their agendas. [xx(] And, if the truth be known there might be a skunk democrat here as well.
FIFY
[;)][:D]
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Well y'all watched Ross Perot an x CEO of the largest corporation in America tell y'all about the giant sucking sound of the companies leaving America. No one payed attention to a business man he lost a nomination, and guess what...companies left. Trump is a business man and a very smart one at that. However some folks Hate success and to see a wealthy person do good. Just how do you think they got that way? Being dumb is not the answer. Trump is a leader not a follower. His overwhelming attitude is a lot of frustration how the people of America were fooled by the past and the way Washington has become.
Isn't that drum getting a little worn, Mr. Fire?
Sure some folks don't like Trump because of his wealth. Those folks support Bernie Sanders. Many of us don't like Trump because of what he says, does and is as a candidate for President. I couldn't care less as to his net worth.
The comparison to Ross Perot is insulting to Mr. Perot. Take a little time to see how Perot built his wealth and what he did to get his folks home from Iran around the time of the revolution. Perot, for all his warts was a man of honor deserving of respect.
Trump? Not so much.
Mr. vegan, you missed the thought. Both are business men. Running the country as a business and not a political circus is what we need.
They are very different types of businessmen, Mr. Fire.
One, for example, did not declared bankruptcy four times and screw the small business vendors that served his establishments via stock transfers to satisfy the bankers. Again, Ross Perot was an honorable and patriotic American businessman in the best way. Trump is a different type of businessman entirely.
I may have missed something, perhaps, but it was way too superficial to be considered thought.
Mr. Vegan, Mr. Perot didn't speak up enough to win the election. I see no problem with Trump doing it. He is telling the American people what they are afraid to say about their govt. Make no mistake he will straighten out some of the mess this country is in. Won't be easy but Mr. Perot couldn't get his point across. That is the difference in the two
This year, I will be voting AGAINST the Democratic party candidate. Pretty simple. Whichever GOP candidate stands the best chance, gets my vote. No GOP candidate will ever perfectly mirror my values. But, they come closer than any Democratic candidate I have ever come across.
I'm pretty sure that's how we got GWB and Obama.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by GuvamintCheese
quote:Originally posted by shilowar
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
His "cover" has been pretty transparent all this time... to anyone paying attention anyway.[:I]
The Trump supporter isn't exactly big on facts or details. It is frightening how many ignorant people exist in this country.
The truly ignorant are the folks that catogorize a "supporter" as ignorant. It shows a true lack of intellect or the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
I can understand why people are atracted to the message Trump is selling. Trump is correct when he says that illegal immigration, Islamic extremism, economic growth and development...and a host of other topics would be getting minimum lip service at best had he not made the clear, though blustering statements he has. His message and those topics resonate with a large part of the electorate.
That said, I am not sure why other candidates have not been able to improve the delivery of his message, and widen the appeal. I can understand and appreciate the disgust and disillusionment with what is called the Establishment. Lord knows they have earned every bit of it. But if ultimately the goal is to replace the leadership, it will take better leadership, not blustering and bravado.
Trump's message is the answer. Trump is not, and we will face serious consequences if we don't take his message forward with better messengers.
X-ring again!^^^^^^^^^^^
George bush lied allot, that does not make me a democrat
they all lie so what does that matter, I voted for both the Bushes and I'm supporting Trump, why because I can.
Whom ever posted this is correct
On Ross Perot Do not forget that while the elder Bush was Pres. He lost his Huge contract with the Govt.. He ran 3rd party to get even so bush could not win We got slick willie and the hildabeast
I do agree about Ross though he was a patriot But he was vengful to the point that we are screwsd because of CLItON
I said when he took office we would be 20 years getiing over the Clintons.. I was wrong we may never get over that satanic Duo
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
George bush lied allot, that does not make me a democrat
they all lie so what does that matter, I voted for both the Bushes and I'm supporting Trump, why because I can.
Some folks are able to learn from their mistakes. Patently, others are not.[:I]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
For Rubio or Bush to take Trump's stand on immigration and the Syria situatition, for two, at this late date would not sell at all with the voters, nor the politicians they are in league with as they would be seen as flip-flopping yet again..
I cannot understand how Bush and Rubio can advocate of regime change in Syria, kimi.
The lessons of the past 15 years cannot be more obvious. It is either incredible ignorance, incredible hubris, or pandering at its worst, and throws completely out the window Bush's 'steady hand' arguement.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by kimi
For Rubio or Bush to take Trump's stand on immigration and the Syria situatition, for two, at this late date would not sell at all with the voters, nor the politicians they are in league with as they would be seen as flip-flopping yet again..
I cannot understand how Bush and Rubio can advocate of regime change in Syria, kimi.
The lessons of the past 15 years cannot be more obvious. It is either incredible ignorance, incredible hubris, or pandering at its worst, and throws completely out the window Bush's 'steady hand' arguement.
I honestly do not try to understand these kind of people.
Never seen so many Trump Signs in SC. They are everywhere. Demorats will even vote for him..
Stirring again, huh?