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you may not want to vote for trump but remember

1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
edited May 2016 in Politics
its only 4 years, but the liberal judge hillary will put in will be for life, and that damage will not be easily reversed
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  • cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A false dichotomy is better than no dichotomy at all.
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,083 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are plenty of those self described as "Principled" here on these forums that will stay home on election day rather than vote for Trump.


    Their have a strong desire to help the pantsuit place four gun hating radicals on the SCOTUS.
  • 4627046270 Member Posts: 12,627
    edited November -1
    I for one think this is the time and place for trump, in 80 we needed Reagan, we need trump now. Lets crush the evil *.
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First off, Cruz may have turded off in the Rep party but that don't mean Trump wins th nomination. There are still powerfull people who vowed to keep him out. We may very well witness history being made.

    FWIW I'm voting for Trump now.

    But those who will throw a tantrum and not be a part of stopping Hillary are the same ones who brought us obummer. They have no problem with her winning to prove a point. And that point will be made at the guarenteed and promised loss of more freedoms. I'm willijg to take my chances with Trump.

    What say you?
  • M1A762M1A762 Member Posts: 3,426
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Big Sky Redneck
    First off, Cruz may have turded off in the Rep party but that don't mean Trump wins th nomination. There are still powerfull people who vowed to keep him out. We may very well witness history being made.

    FWIW I'm voting for Trump now.

    But those who will throw a tantrum and not be a part of stopping Hillary are the same ones who brought us obummer. They have no problem with her winning to prove a point. And that point will be made at the guarenteed and promised loss of more freedoms. I'm willijg to take my chances with Trump.

    What say you?


    I hope Trump gets Cruz to run as VP. That would be as good as it can get now. Whatever happens I have to vote Trump now. F that * hitllary.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    its only 4 years, but the liberal judge hillary will put in will be for life, and that damage will not be easily reversed
    Rumor has it the liberal justices Trump will nominate will also be lifetime appointments. Regardless of who nominates the liberal justices it will take more than one lifetime to reverse the damage, if ever.

    If anyone can convince me between now and November there is one advantage the orange headed clown has over the empty pant suit, I'll swallow my self-respect and vote for the orange headed clown.

    A New York City Democrat is a New York City Democrat. Now we have a choice between two of them.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trump is the man!....I will roll the dice with him over any politician....Maybe he can turn the dismal situation around...
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    its only 4 years, but the liberal judge hillary will put in will be for life, and that damage will not be easily reversed
    Rumor has it the liberal justices Trump will nominate will also be lifetime appointments. Regardless of who nominates the liberal justices it will take more than one lifetime to reverse the damage, if ever.

    If anyone can convince me between now and November there is one advantage the orange headed clown has over the empty pant suit, I'll swallow my self-respect and vote for the orange headed clown.

    A New York City Democrat is a New York City Democrat. Now we have a choice between two of them.





    so your going to vote for hillary on a speculation/suspicion trump will put a liberal in for scotus ?
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Regardless of who is elected, we are going down for the final flush. When you are down to the kind of choices we had in this primary,....all the way around (D and R), you know it's all over.[xx(]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • 1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Regardless of who is elected, we are going down for the final flush. When you are down to the kind of choices we had in this primary,....all the way around (D and R), you know it's all over.[xx(]



    didnt we have this discussion the last 2 elections ? [:D]
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still think Bernie will be POTUS[xx(]
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    Trump has it now. He won't fail it.
  • cranky2cranky2 Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll take my chances with the liberal judges trump might appoint over the ones I know hillary will.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,283 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe I'm over cautious but I hope he has some real good bodyguards and not just some well dressed whore chasers [;)], I still fear for his safety.

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Regardless of who is elected, we are going down for the final flush. When you are down to the kind of choices we had in this primary,....all the way around (D and R), you know it's all over.[xx(]



    didnt we have this discussion the last 2 elections ? [:D]

    Yea, I know,...but it's so bad this time, it's hard to take it seriously. Kind of like a bad nightmare come true.

    Anyway, I said I'd vote for Trump if he won, and I intend to follow through unless he manages to make an even bigger * of himself somehow between now and the general. Hopefully that is impossible.

    The only reason I'm going to do it is because I figure he can't possibly be worse than the alternatives. Sad situation we are in.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • cranky2cranky2 Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've held my nose and voted republican the last 3 elections. Will do it again.
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    I don't believe Trump is a conservative.
    I don't believe he understands the Constitution.
    I don't believe he understands the position and limits of the Presidency.
    I believe he lacks a moral compass.
    I believe the ability to earn money is irrelevant as a qualification.
    I don't believe he will capture the women's vote.
    I don't believe he will get the minority vote. Any flavor.
    I don't believe he has a chance in hell of beating the cankle queen.

    I believe he will make deals to suit himself and not to defend a moral or Constitutional position.

    I believe he will trade away justice selections for political expediency as it suits him.

    I believe he has manufactured his new branding of himself to gull the dis-satisfied right leaning mob.

    I believe a vote for Trump is actually a vote for Hillary or at best a Hillary light real estate huckster sporting a rented conservative sandwich board.

    I believe we are fooked.[xx(][xx(][xx(]
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll vote for Trump over Hillary.
    I'll vote for anybody, anything, two or four legged, over Hillary.
    How anybody can do otherwise is out of my realm of thinking.
    There is no circumstance anyone can define that would cause me to vote for Hillary.
    If there is one iota of a chance that Trump could make things better, it's worth the chance.
    We know what Hillary would do.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK

    Rumor has it the liberal justices Trump will nominate


    Rumor spread by the RINO establishment and the liberal media. Got proof? We know what the Hildabeast will do.
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Trump may be running as a republican, but he is not conservative. Saying a vote for anyone but Trump is a vote for Clinton suggests more people in the US want her than Trump. Let's hope a lot of people want neither.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK

    Rumor has it the liberal justices Trump will nominate


    Rumor spread by the RINO establishment and the liberal media. Got proof? We know what the Hildabeast will do.
    It's kinda hard to "prove" what somebody intends to do, but I have the same proof anybody has for the justices the empty pant suit will nominate. Nothing but his history and the fact that he is and has always been a liberal New York City Democrat.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Neither of the above will definitely get Hillary elected. That's definitely not good for gun owners. Trump is the lesser of the two evils. My fear is that the Republicans Party will torpedo Trump at the convention and nominate a choice of their own. This could disfranchise the party and cause them to stay home or vote independent which will give it to Clinton which will not be good.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
    its only 4 years, but the liberal judge hillary will put in will be for life, and that damage will not be easily reversed
    Rumor has it the liberal justices Trump will nominate will also be lifetime appointments. Regardless of who nominates the liberal justices it will take more than one lifetime to reverse the damage, if ever.

    If anyone can convince me between now and November there is one advantage the orange headed clown has over the empty pant suit, I'll swallow my self-respect and vote for the orange headed clown.

    A New York City Democrat is a New York City Democrat. Now we have a choice between two of them.


    While I am no great Trump fan, one advantage that seems to resonate with people is that he is a businessman. Hillary is, and always has been a government hack. That indicates a different mindset, and a different view of the role of government.

    Lost in all the mindless kvetching, is the reality of what people are saying their number one concern is. After Trump ran the table on the 5 states last week, the exit polls all showed that 'the economy/jobs' was the number one issue. Immigration, illegal and legal was near the bottom.

    Given that reality, and the election dynamics it could engender, likely is behind the RCP poll several days ago showing Trump leading Hildabeast by several points nationally.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'll likely go back to the republican party since an outsider beat out the establishment bunch. I seriously doubt that Cruz could have beaten the scum hildabeast. Trump will bring back the majority of republicans that dumped the party during the last two elections, plus millions more including first time voters of all ages, and some democrats as well. I think he has a good chance of winning.
    What's next?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I don't believe Trump is a conservative.
    I don't believe he understands the Constitution.
    I don't believe he understands the position and limits of the Presidency.
    I believe he lacks a moral compass.
    I believe the ability to earn money is irrelevant as a qualification.
    I don't believe he will capture the women's vote.
    I don't believe he will get the minority vote. Any flavor.
    I don't believe he has a chance in hell of beating the cankle queen.

    I believe he will make deals to suit himself and not to defend a moral or Constitutional position.

    I believe he will trade away justice selections for political expediency as it suits him.

    I believe he has manufactured his new branding of himself to gull the dis-satisfied right leaning mob.

    I believe a vote for Trump is actually a vote for Hillary or at best a Hillary light real estate huckster sporting a rented conservative sandwich board.

    I believe we are fooked.[xx(][xx(][xx(]



    Can't more accurate than that. A choice between Hitler and Stalin is not a choice. Both he and Hillary will continue the decline of America. But that is what morons in the country want.
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    Don't know about your other predictions but I agree completely with the latter.quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I don't believe Trump is a conservative.
    I don't believe he understands the Constitution.
    I don't believe he understands the position and limits of the Presidency.
    I believe he lacks a moral compass.
    I believe the ability to earn money is irrelevant as a qualification.
    I don't believe he will capture the women's vote.
    I don't believe he will get the minority vote. Any flavor.
    I don't believe he has a chance in hell of beating the cankle queen.

    I believe he will make deals to suit himself and not to defend a moral or Constitutional position.

    I believe he will trade away justice selections for political expediency as it suits him.

    I believe he has manufactured his new branding of himself to gull the dis-satisfied right leaning mob.

    I believe a vote for Trump is actually a vote for Hillary or at best a Hillary light real estate huckster sporting a rented conservative sandwich board.

    I believe we are fooked.[xx(][xx(][xx(]
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    This song keeps playing in my head over and over...and I do feel fine,I really do.

    https://youtu.be/Z0GFRcFm-aY
  • SW0320SW0320 Member Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I don't believe Trump is a conservative.
    I don't believe he understands the Constitution.
    I don't believe he understands the position and limits of the Presidency.
    I believe he lacks a moral compass.
    I believe the ability to earn money is irrelevant as a qualification.
    I don't believe he will capture the women's vote.
    I don't believe he will get the minority vote. Any flavor.
    I don't believe he has a chance in hell of beating the cankle queen.

    I believe he will make deals to suit himself and not to defend a moral or Constitutional position.

    I believe he will trade away justice selections for political expediency as it suits him.

    I believe he has manufactured his new branding of himself to gull the dis-satisfied right leaning mob.

    I believe a vote for Trump is actually a vote for Hillary or at best a Hillary light real estate huckster sporting a rented conservative sandwich board.

    I believe we are fooked.[xx(][xx(][xx(]



    Can't more accurate than that. A choice between Hitler and Stalin is not a choice. Both he and Hillary will continue the decline of America. But that is what morons in the country want.


    Ditto
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    a court of WISE minority benefiting liberal women judges appoinitted by hilde would sound like a screeching segment of THE REAL tv show
  • topdadtopdad Member Posts: 3,408 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Left turn goes to hell, and right turn might go to hell also.
    If that (might) is all I have, then that's the way I'll go.[B)]
  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by topdad
    Left turn goes to hell, and right turn might go to hell also.
    If that (might) is all I have, then that's the way I'll go.[B)]

    That's kind of all we have left at this point. A vote for anyone other than Trump gives Hildabeast the edge, and we all know what's down that road. While Trump has done things in the past that I disagree with, I would rather take a chance on him than deal with the consequences of a Shrillery presidency. People change. Hell, Reagan was a Democrat for a lot of years before he saw the light, other than that 1986 foible. I know a lot of you are dead set against Trump, but at this point we have a choice of for sure lighting the country on fire with Hillary, or taking a chance that Trump might do what he says.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,672 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not that it matters, but during Trump's speech last night was anyone else reminded of the movie 'Stepford Wives'?
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,672 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by topdad
    Left turn goes to hell, and right turn might go to hell also.
    If that (might) is all I have, then that's the way I'll go.[B)]

    That's kind of all we have left at this point. A vote for anyone other than Trump gives Hildabeast the edge, and we all know what's down that road. While Trump has done things in the past that I disagree with, I would rather take a chance on him than deal with the consequences of a Shrillery presidency. People change. Hell, Reagan was a Democrat for a lot of years before he saw the light, other than that 1986 foible. I know a lot of you are dead set against Trump, but at this point we have a choice of for sure lighting the country on fire with Hillary, or taking a chance that Trump might do what he says.


    Reagan appealed to our better nature during his campaign, and carried that spirit into his Presidency. Trump appeals to our baser instincts, and don't see that as being a positive in a President. In my mind, voting for Trump is a problem. I cannot and will not vote for the self-serving cad that has been campaigning to date. I don't see how I can trust him if he completely changes his stripes in a calculated effort to become Presidential so as to attract the reasonable voter.

    A conundrum. When engaging in a scorched earth campaign, it is extremely difficult to retrace your steps and find something growing that you can nurture.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • NeoBlackdogNeoBlackdog Member Posts: 17,184 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by topdad
    Left turn goes to hell, and right turn might go to hell also.
    If that (might) is all I have, then that's the way I'll go.[B)]

    That's kind of all we have left at this point. A vote for anyone other than Trump gives Hildabeast the edge, and we all know what's down that road. While Trump has done things in the past that I disagree with, I would rather take a chance on him than deal with the consequences of a Shrillery presidency. People change. Hell, Reagan was a Democrat for a lot of years before he saw the light, other than that 1986 foible. I know a lot of you are dead set against Trump, but at this point we have a choice of for sure lighting the country on fire with Hillary, or taking a chance that Trump might do what he says.


    Reagan appealed to our better nature during his campaign, and carried that spirit into his Presidency. Trump appeals to our baser instincts, and don't see that as being a positive in a President. In my mind, voting for Trump is a problem. I cannot and will not vote for the self-serving cad that has been campaigning to date. I don't see how I can trust him if he completely changes his stripes in a calculated effort to become Presidential so as to attract the reasonable voter.

    A conundrum. When engaging in a scorched earth campaign, it is extremely difficult to retrace your steps and find something growing that you can nurture.

    I agree, it's a conundrum. I don't really want to vote for Trump, but I'm realist enough to see that, other than Hillary, he's the only option. Folks that are going to vote for Johnson (and I mean no disrespect, nor am I trying to provoke a fight) may as well stay home. He has even less traction at this point than Kasich. We seem to have reached a point where our two choices are either 'the devil we know' (Hillary) or 'the devil we don't know' (Trump). Knowing what we know about Hillary, I'll be taking a chance on the other devil, and may God help us all.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by skicat
    I don't believe Trump is a conservative.
    I don't believe he understands the Constitution.
    I don't believe he understands the position and limits of the Presidency.
    I believe he lacks a moral compass.
    I believe the ability to earn money is irrelevant as a qualification.
    I don't believe he will capture the women's vote.
    I don't believe he will get the minority vote. Any flavor.
    I don't believe he has a chance in hell of beating the cankle queen.

    I believe he will make deals to suit himself and not to defend a moral or Constitutional position.

    I believe he will trade away justice selections for political expediency as it suits him.

    I believe he has manufactured his new branding of himself to gull the dis-satisfied right leaning mob.

    I believe a vote for Trump is actually a vote for Hillary or at best a Hillary light real estate huckster sporting a rented conservative sandwich board.

    I believe we are fooked.[xx(][xx(][xx(]
    You forgot that he has exactly Zero of the women's vote. Other than that omission, I completely agree with you.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by topdad
    Left turn goes to hell, and right turn might go to hell also.
    If that (might) is all I have, then that's the way I'll go.[B)]

    That's kind of all we have left at this point. A vote for anyone other than Trump gives Hildabeast the edge, and we all know what's down that road. While Trump has done things in the past that I disagree with, I would rather take a chance on him than deal with the consequences of a Shrillery presidency. People change. Hell, Reagan was a Democrat for a lot of years before he saw the light, other than that 1986 foible. I know a lot of you are dead set against Trump, but at this point we have a choice of for sure lighting the country on fire with Hillary, or taking a chance that Trump might do what he says.


    Reagan appealed to our better nature during his campaign, and carried that spirit into his Presidency. Trump appeals to our baser instincts, and don't see that as being a positive in a President. In my mind, voting for Trump is a problem. I cannot and will not vote for the self-serving cad that has been campaigning to date. I don't see how I can trust him if he completely changes his stripes in a calculated effort to become Presidential so as to attract the reasonable voter.

    A conundrum. When engaging in a scorched earth campaign, it is extremely difficult to retrace your steps and find something growing that you can nurture.

    I agree, it's a conundrum. I don't really want to vote for Trump, but I'm realist enough to see that, other than Hillary, he's the only option. Folks that are going to vote for Johnson (and I mean no disrespect, nor am I trying to provoke a fight) may as well stay home. He has even less traction at this point than Kasich. We seem to have reached a point where our two choices are either 'the devil we know' (Hillary) or 'the devil we don't know' (Trump). Knowing what we know about Hillary, I'll be taking a chance on the other devil, and may God help us all.
    Oh, but Trump is a devil we know. It's not like he came out of nowhere. Trump has been front and center for a long, long time. We have his record on any number of issues. Do you honestly think that he is going to completely about face his entire life and govern constitutionally? It's seems so improbable as to be absurd.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's a genuine pleasure to have the lesser of two evils plantation owners pissin' and moaning about having to vote for someone they don't like.
    What's next?
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,672 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    quote:Originally posted by topdad
    Left turn goes to hell, and right turn might go to hell also.
    If that (might) is all I have, then that's the way I'll go.[B)]

    That's kind of all we have left at this point. A vote for anyone other than Trump gives Hildabeast the edge, and we all know what's down that road. While Trump has done things in the past that I disagree with, I would rather take a chance on him than deal with the consequences of a Shrillery presidency. People change. Hell, Reagan was a Democrat for a lot of years before he saw the light, other than that 1986 foible. I know a lot of you are dead set against Trump, but at this point we have a choice of for sure lighting the country on fire with Hillary, or taking a chance that Trump might do what he says.


    Reagan appealed to our better nature during his campaign, and carried that spirit into his Presidency. Trump appeals to our baser instincts, and don't see that as being a positive in a President. In my mind, voting for Trump is a problem. I cannot and will not vote for the self-serving cad that has been campaigning to date. I don't see how I can trust him if he completely changes his stripes in a calculated effort to become Presidential so as to attract the reasonable voter.

    A conundrum. When engaging in a scorched earth campaign, it is extremely difficult to retrace your steps and find something growing that you can nurture.

    I agree, it's a conundrum. I don't really want to vote for Trump, but I'm realist enough to see that, other than Hillary, he's the only option. Folks that are going to vote for Johnson (and I mean no disrespect, nor am I trying to provoke a fight) may as well stay home. He has even less traction at this point than Kasich. We seem to have reached a point where our two choices are either 'the devil we know' (Hillary) or 'the devil we don't know' (Trump). Knowing what we know about Hillary, I'll be taking a chance on the other devil, and may God help us all.


    I fully understand and appreciate your position, NeoBlackdog.

    I will most likely be going the other direction this year, and once again will vote for a candidate instead of against one. Trump may surprise me, and it would be a big surprise. So, given that, I will not say never, though I probably could.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    I agree, it's a conundrum.
    When and how did this get turned into a birth control thread?
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,672 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JamesRK
    quote:Originally posted by NeoBlackdog
    I agree, it's a conundrum.
    When and how did this get turned into a birth control thread?



    Because the whole process has become a fricken abortion?
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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