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Prediction for November

bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2016 in Politics
The (R) Elite scum will lose the house and senate to the (D) Marxists and Trump will be POTUS. The voters are SICK TO DEATH of congress, Obama and the morass of corruption in DC. Heads are going to roll, WE LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES.

Incumbents are going to get slaughtered; I hope my congresscritter, Bill Johnson (R) OH 6th loses his job. The guy is a freaking traitor. I would vote for Saul Alinsky for his seat to get rid of him as sweet revenge.
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    GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 16,738 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How would you like to trade for DICK DURBIN,,,complete dug in tick fat as a country hog before butchering time.
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    kimikimi Member Posts: 44,723 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Grasshopper
    How would you like to trade for DICK DURBIN,,,complete dug in tick fat as a country hog before butchering time.


    [;)][:D]
    What's next?
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    shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,815 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can bet that republicans in many places will pay, yet Democrats will keep on. The Republicans would have to lose a little over 25% of their current seats to lose the House. Interesting times indeed.
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    cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Either way will be entertaining.
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    gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's going to make 1964 look like a Republican victory. Not just nationally but at the state & local level as well.
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    CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We are screwed in Illinois. For US Senate we have Mark Kirk, an national Guard pilot who gives armed forces a bad name. He's had a stroke. (disability card) and he is a left wing Republican in Name Only. He is against Tammy Duckworth, a Trump "loser". She's a pinko socialist who had her legs blown off in Iraq as a helicopter pilot. She is a classic Democrat who believes veterans should not be allowed to have a gun until approved by the Administration when leaving the armed forces. She makes me want to say "If she was any good as a helicopter pilot, she wouldn't have gotten her legs blown off. She flaunts the prosthetic legs any photo opportunity possible. .... A prosthetic media whoe. It's like voting for Joseph Stalin or Nikita kruschev. One with a cane and the other with plastic legs, both looking for sympathy and all the time we're getting raped.
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    cranky2cranky2 Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just don't see a trump ticket having those effects on republicans. I could be wrong but when people look at who is on the other side of the ticket are they really going to vote for the dems.
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    ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The ONLY upside of this election season for me is the retirement of Diane Feinstein.
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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rabbit Season comes in.. Veterans Day.. and a Birthday.
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    yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,033 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ruger41
    The ONLY upside of this election season for me is the retirement of Diane Feinstein.


    Also boxer and pelosi. brown too (if memory is correct). The ones that worry me are the newbies like newsome.
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    TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,560 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    With Mitch the * and Nancy Ryan we have already lost
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    ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by yoshmyster
    quote:Originally posted by ruger41
    The ONLY upside of this election season for me is the retirement of Diane Feinstein.


    Also boxer and pelosi. brown too (if memory is correct). The ones that worry me are the newbies like newsome.


    Gavin Newsome is a cancer to the people of California. Glad I left before he became Lt. Governor. Lord help you if he becomes Governor of California....or goes to Congress then we're all screwed.
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    CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost

    Incumbents are going to get slaughtered;

    I get 4 negative mail pieces everyday from both my incumbent State Senator and our Congressman. Loudermilk swore up and down he would not vote for Boehner as speaker.... First thing he did was vote for Boehner. He's Fired.

    Brandon Beach is another one. Our district is 90% (RED) in a rural county 10% North Fulton (ie Very Rich liberal dirtbags BLUE) All his money and attention go to his liberal "friends" in Fulton. He sends at least one or 2 Negative mail pieces a day bashing his competition. Last cycle he beat one of our LGS owners in a close race after the LGS owner had resigned his State House Seat to run for State Senate... Beach has done nothing for our County and only whored up with his construction buddies to push MARTA into both Cobb and Cherokee. We voted three times on this. We DO NOT WANT MARTA up here.... I'm going to look into how he voted on this latest BS consruction debacle that has had 575 and 75 stopped for 2 yrs.

    Brandon Beach... You're FIRED...
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    JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know what you mean. I voted for Robert Hurt (R) because he was the lesser of two evils.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
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    CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,520
    edited November -1
    Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell from Washington state both need to go, been there way too long. Trying to replace them with republicans will be a tuff job. All the votes in this state are in King and Pierce counties, totally liberal.
    W.D.
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    ScottymacScottymac Member Posts: 472 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It will be cooler then August for sure
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    SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,182 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like Rubio said in his concession speech. The GOP has only itself to blame. We gave them to the house in 2010 and they did nothing. We gave them the senate in 2014 and they did nothing. At least he spoke about it. I thought more of him for that than anything he did in his campaign.

    I worked hard doing my little part in 2010 to help swing the house seat for my district to the GOP. We did it. What we got was a turncoat of a nice little big government GOP lap dog. He is still there and now running for the senate. I haven't voted for him since 2010.
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At least you don't live in NY under the regime of KGB Leader Cuomo. The guy is no American. He came close to getting Tarred & Feathered back in 2013 when he signed the SAFE-ACT behind closed doors....UNCONSTITUTIONALLY !!!
    Abort Cuomo
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by SCOUT5
    Like Rubio said in his concession speech. The GOP has only itself to blame. We gave them to the house in 2010 and they did nothing. We gave them the senate in 2014 and they did nothing. At least he spoke about it. I thought more of him for that than anything he did in his campaign.

    I worked hard doing my little part in 2010 to help swing the house seat for my district to the GOP. We did it. What we got was a turncoat of a nice little big government GOP lap dog. He is still there and now running for the senate. I haven't voted for him since 2010.
    Rubio?....did he ever show up to vote?[:o)]
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    jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think Trump will win but the house and Senate will take a big hit on both sides. The republicans will still rule when the dust settles but the power structure will be different. This election will shake them up a lot.
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    WulfmannWulfmann Member Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The best thing about Trump is he is no GOP insider and they are freaking out he is taking their nominee position.

    This helps all who want to break up the 2 party monopoly system and keeping Hillary out is the first step to preventing the final destruction of the republic
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    "Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
    Otto von Bismarck
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    SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,182 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wulfmann
    The best thing about Trump is he is no GOP insider and they are freaking out he is taking their nominee position.

    This helps all who want to break up the 2 party monopoly system and keeping Hillary out is the first step to preventing the final destruction of the republic


    That's the way I see it. Trump is just a step. Not my idea of a great candidate, but a needed step if we are ever going to get to one.
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    rapcorapco Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think one of these 3 will become president:

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    jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    rapco.
    Trump don't drink.
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get use to "Bernie"...
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    jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bernie Sanders use to be in the pornography business,a perfect democrat background. Hillary is a corrupt,proven liar, another perfect democrat. Bill and Hillary have so much dirt on each other they can't afford to split.
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    casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, HOLD IT!

    If you don't vote for your GOP candidate for congress then you are voting for Nancy Pelosi for speaker of the house.

    With the GOP nominating process all but over. Conservatives are told to suck it up and vote Trump, else you are casting a vote for Clinton or Sanders. You really can't have it both ways.

    Actually I find turning the House and/or the Senate over to the Democrats more frightening than A Democrat President. Remember ACA, originated and was 100% support by Democrats in Congress
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    bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by casper1947
    OK, HOLD IT!

    If you don't vote for your GOP candidate for congress then you are voting for Nancy Pelosi for speaker of the house.



    Really???? You got to be kidding me, seriously have you thought about what you said? How is Pelosi any different than Boehner or Ryan? Obama got MORE than he asked for the (R) leadership in the house just let him have ALL OF IT with nary a word. Just how could Nancy Pelosi be worse? The (R)'s have not made any effort to stop Obama's Marxist agenda, hell they just go along with him smiling for the camera.

    I ain't voting for Bill Johnson; he is a traitor and needs to go.
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    casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the Congress in 2009~2010 was A lot worse than 2014~2015.

    There are definitely problems in the GOP leadership, and I think they have done some really stupid things. But wasn't the time to fix the problems in the PRIMARIES.

    Now, you quoted the setup: If you don't vote for your GOP candidate for congress then you are voting for Nancy Pelosi for speaker of the house.

    but left out the main point:

    With the GOP nominating process all but over. Conservatives are told to suck it up and vote Trump, else you are casting a vote for Clinton or Sanders. You really can't have it both ways.

    Now, I reject the very concept that not voting for someone is a vote for someone else. This was directed to those calling for unity behind trump that are perfectly willing to forgo the same concept for Congress. By attacking the "establishment" GOP does that not imply a willingness to turn congress over to the Super Establishment, the Democrats.
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    cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's very simple. If you don't hold your nose and vote for someone you don't want elected, then someone you don't vote for that you don't want elected will be elected. So be sure to vote for someone you don't want elected so you keep someone you don't want elected from being elected.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fox News poll released last night has Trump ahead by 3 points.

    I think Clinton bounces back once Bernie is silenced, but Trump is in striking distance.
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    casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Fox News poll released last night has Trump ahead by 3 points.

    I think Clinton bounces back once Bernie is silenced, but Trump is in striking distance.

    I don't think you can pay much attention to the "general " polls.
    CBS has Clinton +6 and Rasmussen has Trump +5.
    You have to look at individual states since it is necessary to win the State for its electoral votes.
    5/19 NJ Clinton +7
    5/18 NH Clinton +2
    5/17 AZ Trump +4
    5/10 FL Clinton +1
    5/10 OH Trump +4
    etc, most of these are within the margin of error.
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    casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by cce1302
    It's very simple. If you don't hold your nose and vote for someone you don't want elected, then someone you don't vote for that you don't want elected will be elected. So be sure to vote for someone you don't want elected so you keep someone you don't want elected from being elected.

    This argument is only valid on a State by State case. We are talking Presidential election where the goal is to get 1 more vote than your opponents to get all the electoral votes for that State. Trump should carry Texas handily by at least 15% (that is 65/35) 1 or 100 more votes in Texas won't help in CA or NY. Getting the most votes nationwide means nothing, ask Gore.
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    cce1302cce1302 Member Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by casper1947
    quote:Originally posted by cce1302
    It's very simple. If you don't hold your nose and vote for someone you don't want elected, then someone you don't vote for that you don't want elected will be elected. So be sure to vote for someone you don't want elected so you keep someone you don't want elected from being elected.

    This argument is only valid on a State by State case. We are talking Presidential election where the goal is to get 1 more vote than your opponents to get all the electoral votes for that State. Trump should carry Texas handily by at least 15% (that is 65/35) 1 or 100 more votes in Texas won't help in CA or NY. Getting the most votes nationwide means nothing, ask Gore.


    I can't believe there are people using this argument on any level. It's absurd from the outset.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by casper1947
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    Fox News poll released last night has Trump ahead by 3 points.

    I think Clinton bounces back once Bernie is silenced, but Trump is in striking distance.

    I don't think you can pay much attention to the "general " polls.
    CBS has Clinton +6 and Rasmussen has Trump +5.
    You have to look at individual states since it is necessary to win the State for its electoral votes.
    5/19 NJ Clinton +7
    5/18 NH Clinton +2
    5/17 AZ Trump +4
    5/10 FL Clinton +1
    5/10 OH Trump +4
    etc, most of these are within the margin of error.




    A "general" poll is just that.....something quick to look at to see a general trend.

    The whole point is that the conventional wisdom has been that Trump is going to get crushed in both the electoral and popular vote...and in very early polling, he's got a legitimate shot.

    It's a difficult electoral road to navigate, but if he brings certain states into play......who knows what can happen.
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    casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To get back ON topic.

    IF Trump wins I think incumbents will do well. When we talk of incumbents getting slaughtered we are actually talking about ALL current Republicans in Congress. I don't see any indication the Democrats are sick of Democrats in Congress.

    As for Bill Johnson (R) OH 6th I did a little looking. He has a Freedomworks score of 57% lifetime. That does suck, but it is still better than ANY Democrat in the House. I can't see replacing him with a Democrat as an upgrade. He won 2 years ago by 20% and was unopposed in this year's primary.

    If it is important that Trump beats Hillary it is equally important that the Republicans retain control of the Senate (confirmations) AND the House (ending the ACA, building the "Wall"). Democrats controlling either will stop Trump dead in his tracks.
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    pinky-1pinky-1 Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i hope al sharpton has his one way ticket to anywhere but this country
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    jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally I think we are being lied to about the polls. All the pools were wrong the last election. They are just trying to influence our vote. About 75% of what we hear is a lie in my opinion.
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    RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by bpost

    Incumbents are going to get slaughtered;

    I get 4 negative mail pieces everyday from both my incumbent State Senator and our Congressman. Loudermilk swore up and down he would not vote for Boehner as speaker.... First thing he did was vote for Boehner. He's Fired.

    Brandon Beach is another one. Our district is 90% (RED) in a rural county 10% North Fulton (ie Very Rich liberal dirtbags BLUE) All his money and attention go to his liberal "friends" in Fulton. He sends at least one or 2 Negative mail pieces a day bashing his competition. Last cycle he beat one of our LGS owners in a close race after the LGS owner had resigned his State House Seat to run for State Senate... Beach has done nothing for our County and only whored up with his construction buddies to push MARTA into both Cobb and Cherokee. We voted three times on this. We DO NOT WANT MARTA up here.... I'm going to look into how he voted on this latest BS consruction debacle that has had 575 and 75 stopped for 2 yrs.

    Brandon Beach... You're FIRED...
    Keep up the fight. We fought MARTA in Clayton County for almost 30 years. When MARTA finally won it took less than 10 years for Clayton County to be turned into a crime-ridden ghetto. It still amazes me how quickly quiet, clean, suburban neighborhoods were destroyed by blacks and the slime balls they vote into office.
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    royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Democratic Convention will look like a battle of 25 fat women fighting for a fresh two pack of Twinkies. 35-50% chance Hillary wont even be there. My only concern is that Joe Biden will sneak in and attempt to blow up the process. Mix that with the stupidity of the American people it looks like this:

    Hillary vs. Trump= Trump big win
    Sanders vs Trump= Trump in a squeaker
    Biden/Sanders vs Trump= toss up.(slight edge to Democrats[:(]
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