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Libertarian Party Nomination for President

casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2016 in Politics
Gary Johnson: Former New Mexico Governor Wins Libertarian Party Nomination for President

Johnson secured the necessary 50 percent of delegates in the second round of voting at the party convention on Sunday. He has polled as high as 10 percent in recent presidential polls.

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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...and will get less than 1% in the November election...
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    duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    yes,what a waste.i like a uphill fight as much as any one, but with so much riding on this election. new judges, getting rid of obomas edicts and saving the second admendment, its no time to split the vote and ensure that hillery gets elected for some ones ego or trying to make a statment. it may seem to be a choice between the lesser of two evils to vote for trump, but with a president hillery we already know she will do and it will not be pretty for freedom. mr myopic.
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    zuzupalizuzupali Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kind of a shame. I like Johnson and all, but I feel that Peterson or even McAffe would've been a better pick. Johnson had his run back in 2012 and got nowhere, and they're likely going to get the same with him again.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A vote for Johnson isn't a vote for Hillary.

    It's a vote for amnesty.
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    A vote for Johnson isn't a vote for Hillary.

    It's a vote for amnesty.




    Not quite.



    From his website:

    https://garyjohnson2016.com/issues/


    Immigration


    Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson understands immigration. He understands that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He understands that a bigger fence will only produce taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is not a consequence of too little security, but rather a legal immigration system that simply doesn't work. Militarizing the border, bigger fences, and other punitive measures espoused by too many politicians are all simplistic "solutions" to a problem caused by artificial quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful failure of Congress to actually put in place an immigration system that matches reality.
    Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified and secure system of work visas by which willing workers and willing employers can meet in a robust labor marketplace efficiently and economically. Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
    Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S. legally will provide the greatest security possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its time and resources on the criminals and bad actors who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of those who are today entering the country illegally.



    And form ontheissues.org:


    http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

    Bigger border fence will only produce taller ladders. (Jan 2016)
    Arizona anti-immigrant law leads to racial profiling. (Aug 2012)
    A 10-foot wall just requires an 11-foot ladder. (Aug 2012)
    2 year grace period for illegals to get work visas. (Nov 2011)
    1 strike & you're out for legal immigrants who violate terms. (Nov 2011)
    Let some, but not all, illegal immigrants stay in US. (Nov 2011)
    We educate the world's best & brightest; why send them back? (Jun 2011)
    Open the border; flood of Mexicans would become taxpayers. (Jan 2001)
    Mexican immigrants are pursuing same dreams we all have. (Jan 2001)
    Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001)
    Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001)

    A 2 year deadline to become documented with a 1 strike and you're out policy is not amnesty. It is practical and better still, enforceable.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:He understands that a bigger fence will only produce taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is not a consequence of too little security, but rather a legal immigration system that simply doesn't work. Militarizing the border, bigger fences, and other punitive measures espoused by too many politicians are all simplistic "solutions" to a problem caused by artificial quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful failure of Congress to actually put in place an immigration system that matches reality.

    Pure and utter leftist BS. There is simply no other description for it. Each and every year for at least the past 10 years, 1 million people from across the globe have been able to legally and properly immigrate to the USA.

    A system that allows 1 million people per year to complete a necessarily involved and intense process is not by any rational definition broken, not working, or in need of a better attachment to reality.

    As I have said before, Libertarian ideology would work just fine if everyone was a functional responsible human, and all countries had comparable and equivalent standards of living and economic prosperity. Since that is not, never has ever been, nor ever will be the case, I believe Libertarianism to be an exercise in intellectual fantasy. One's time could be better spent inventing ice cream that never melts.
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    eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    +100000, eastbank.
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    casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "Look, libertarians agree with socialism as long as it's voluntary," Johnson said. "But when it's forced, that's tyranny. So that's the libertarian perspective."

    http://www.mrctv.org/blog/gary-johnson-claims-libertarians-agree-college-professors-and-bernie-sanders

    https://youtu.be/mq3x71i1jF8
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Libertarian is Pollyanna in a jumpsuit!
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