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quote:Originally posted by wifetrained
What difference does it make anymore? Both parties apparently have the same goals, the only thing different is the path taken, the rhetoric used, and the manner it's presented by the media in order to guide the herd and garner a particular response.
Speaker of the House, John Boehner, the highest elected leader of the Republican Party, is headed for a similar annihilation at the hands of Barack Obama. It is a battle brought about by Boehner's earlier unwillingness to fight a determined and deadly foe. Now John Boehner's failed leadership may mortally wound the modern Republican Party.
How did we get here? John Boehner, at nearly every critical juncture has raised the white flag of capitulation.
quote:Originally posted by bullshot
Jeb Bush was a two term Governor here in Florida, he was a great governor (check his record) and I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
Judging him by his last name is a poor and narrow minded approach to viewing him as a presidential candidate in my opinion.
It will be interesting however, to see who the Republicans finally endorse for the office.
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Whomever wins the REP nomination gets my vote as the alternative is, well, not an option. Again, if folks who call themselves conservatives stick together (and that is doubtful reading the answers on this thread by Indirect DEM Supporters IMO) we can get a more conservative person in the White House. But those who either stayed home the last two elections, or wasted their votes on some loon who had no chance...well, look what we got. Like Franklin said, if we can hang together we will not hang separately. I ain't happy about another Bush....but more unhappy about another Clinton. Got to deal with reality.
Conservative and Republican have never been 100% interchangeable, and have been nowhere close to interchangeable since 1964.
Those who call themselves Republican will vote for Jeb Bush. Those that actually believe in the conservative value of Constitutional Government will not.
There is no legitimate mainstream conservatism in the modern GOP. It simply tries to use the Federal Government to over-reach in different ways than do the Democrats.
To be clear.
Jeb Bush will never get my vote.
Chris Christy will never get my vote.
Marco Rubio will never get my vote.
Ted Cruz has an outside chance of convincing me to vote for him. He needs to temper his love affair with military spending, and also needs to realize that the Federal Government has no business defining marriage.
Jim DeMint may get my vote. I think his stint at the Heritage Foundation has cleaned up his views as to some of the Federal Over-reach he supported as a Senator, but he would have to come out and state it.
Rand Paul would probably get my vote. I would like him to wait four years so that he is a better known commodity, with fuller record, particularly if in the majority in 2015, but he getting a whole lot of exposure right now, and rarely misses.
Unless something big changes, it is likely that the next President will have a GOP House and Senate. If that is the case, we need a GOP President that will not, as almost all have done in recent memory, use the consolidated power to expand government, expand the military, and play fast and loose with personal liberty.
Hmmmmm...... Other than the military thing, just like the Democrats do. How remarkably unsurprising.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Whomever wins the REP nomination gets my vote as the alternative is, well, not an option. Again, if folks who call themselves conservatives stick together (and that is doubtful reading the answers on this thread by Indirect DEM Supporters IMO) we can get a more conservative person in the White House. But those who either stayed home the last two elections, or wasted their votes on some loon who had no chance...well, look what we got. Like Franklin said, if we can hang together we will not hang separately. I ain't happy about another Bush....but more unhappy about another Clinton. Got to deal with reality.
Conservative and Republican have never been 100% interchangeable, and have been nowhere close to interchangeable since 1964.
Those who call themselves Republican will vote for Jeb Bush. Those that actually believe in the conservative value of Constitutional Government will not.
There is no legitimate mainstream conservatism in the modern GOP. It simply tries to use the Federal Government to over-reach in different ways than do the Democrats.
To be clear.
Jeb Bush will never get my vote.
Chris Christy will never get my vote.
Marco Rubio will never get my vote.
Ted Cruz has an outside chance of convincing me to vote for him. He needs to temper his love affair with military spending, and also needs to realize that the Federal Government has no business defining marriage.
Jim DeMint may get my vote. I think his stint at the Heritage Foundation has cleaned up his views as to some of the Federal Over-reach he supported as a Senator, but he would have to come out and state it.
Rand Paul would probably get my vote. I would like him to wait four years so that he is a better known commodity, with fuller record, particularly if in the majority in 2015, but he getting a whole lot of exposure right now, and rarely misses.
Unless something big changes, it is likely that the next President will have a GOP House and Senate. If that is the case, we need a GOP President that will not, as almost all have done in recent memory, use the consolidated power to expand government, expand the military, and play fast and loose with personal liberty.
Hmmmmm...... Other than the military thing, just like the Democrats do. How remarkably unsurprising.
You have two choices in this two party dictatorship, Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, Less than 60%,although registered will not
bother to vote, I may decide to vote, however I will not be better off whom ever wins.
quote:Originally posted by topdad
I know you moral high grounders will continue
to not vote, or vote for that guy that no chance
in all of creation of winning, and that's what
put us where we're at now.[B)]
I'll go out on a limb here and say the demographics have shifted to such a huge degree that Republicans are unlikely to ever win the white house again. If not now, then certainly within the next one or two election cycles. Once amnesty is given, over 3/4th of the tens of millions will be reliable democrats. So by your logic, we should all just vote democrat in presidential elections since they're going to win anyway.
A man stands by principal; voting for a lesser of two evils is immoral.
quote:Originally posted by SouthronPatriot
quote:Originally posted by topdad
I know you moral high grounders will continue
to not vote, or vote for that guy that no chance
in all of creation of winning, and that's what
put us where we're at now.[B)]
I'll go out on a limb here and say the demographics have shifted to such a huge degree that Republicans are unlikely to ever win the white house again. If not now, then certainly within the next one or two election cycles. Once amnesty is given, over 3/4th of the tens of millions will be reliable democrats. So by your logic, we should all just vote democrat in presidential elections since tfhey're going to win anyway.
A man stands by principal; voting for a lesser of two evils is immoral.
y
You may/could be correct, Dumcrats, Republicrats, my life is good and I will work hard to see that it does not change, Polk is still the only President who got everything he asked for, all six propositions that changed life's by expanding our country by fifty percent.
quote:Originally posted by bpost
Sure sounds great, Hillary could be VP and Nancy Pelosi chief of staff, Chuck Schumer Attorney General and Harry Reid Sec. of State.
That should work out real well for us all.
Now that would certainly be a horrifying lineup!!!
quote:Originally posted by bpost
Sure sounds great, Hillary could be VP and Nancy Pelosi chief of staff, Chuck Schumer Attorney General and Harry Reid Sec. of State.
That should work out real well for us all.
My eyes are burning. Thought I would look up this post now that its been a year, now that Jeb has stepped out into the "light".
Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list. Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush
The bottom line we have to remember is that whoever becomes President will nominate people for the Supreme Court. Since those nine people are the ones who make the laws & rule the country we may have to hold our noses & vote for anyone who is not Billery.
The Supremes have usurped the control & it is long past time to restore the three balanced branches of government that we are supposed to have.
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
The bottom line we have to remember is that whoever becomes President will nominate people for the Supreme Court. Since those nine people are the ones who make the laws & rule the country we may have to hold our noses & vote for anyone who is not Billery.
The Supremes have usurped the control & it is long past time to restore the three balanced branches of government that we are supposed to have.
There's a bunch of macaroons on this thread proclaiming that a vote for Jeb Bush is akin to voting "conservative".
Bury your head in the republican's azzez if you like.
The vaunted "conservative" Ronny Reagan banned more guns and granted amnesty to more illegals than Peanuts Carter, Klinton and Barachus Obamus combined!
I wish I could elect them all. Ranking them as I currently see them in reverse order of who I'd want as President:
10. Kasich. Great on policy, but Trump was right in the debate, he got lucky with fracking, otherwise, Ohio would be in a big hole right now, and he wouldn't have a shot. He just doesn't strike me as a leader. A leader has to have at least SOME measure of charisma, because he has to convince people he's right, and Kasich doesn't have that IMO. Secretary of Labor? Sure. President? No.
9. Carson. He's learning on the fly. He has changed his position on three or four different issues already. Being a doctor is even less of a qualification for being President than being a CEO. Seems like a wonderful man. Kind Honest. He needs to run for governor somewhere before I'd be ready to hand him the reins of the country. Surgeon General? Absolutely. President? No.
8. Bush. Too much baggage. Too much outside money for my comfort. There is no doubt in my mind that, if there was another banking crisis, he'd bail them out. He will cave to the PC crowd because he thinks it's inevitable that they're gonna win anyway, and he will essentially govern as a Dem IMO. Not to mention that his delivery when he speaks is terrible, so he will get destroyed by Hillary in any debate. He just doesn't inspire any sense of trust in me. I'm not sure I've seen a less charismatic politician. He reminds me of the classroom geek saying, Come on guys, stop it."
7. Paul. I love Rand, I had high hopes for him, but he reminds me of a libertarian Obama. He seems to be more comfortable lecturing on rights and the constitution than he does leading. There is no doubt he would TRY to shrink government, but there's a lot more involved in running the country than that. Secretary of the Treasury, I'm all over that. President? No.
6. Fiorina. I think she could make a good President, but I think she has a serious likeability problem. That alone doesn't disqualify her, but it makes her harder to elect in a general election. She comes off as cold and harsh. Efficiency is wonderful. She is the queen of efficiency. It's tempting to give her the benefit of the doubt, because Margaret Thatcher came across the same way at times, but these last six candidates have to be separated somehow, and I don't think she's got the personality to get elected.
5. Huckabee. Huck is a nice man. He was a good governor, and he's likeable. But he comes across as impractical at times, like when he talks about social security. Sure, it's the "right" thing to do to give everyone their full share, but we all know it's gonna take some serious gerrymandering from here on in to make the money work, and I think it's important to have someone in there who isn't sooo nice that they aren't willing to screw someone over, because, well someone's getting screwed no matter what we do.
4. Trump. Yeah, I love the Donald and what he says. I love that he isn't beholden to any special interest groups. I believe him when he says he'll build a wall, and that he'll get the Mexicans to pay for it. Just because the dopes at CNBC can't think of a way to do that, doesn't mean Trump can't. But I think there's something to be said for having governing experience. If there weren't three candidates as qualified as the three ahead of him running, I'd have no problem letting Trump take control of the country. I think he'd get bored eventually, because governing isn't like running a business. There's a lot of mundane stuff to take care of. He'd be great at the figurehead aspect, and he's a guy I'd want at the negotiating table, but I think he couldn't care less about half of the things a President needs to care about, so we'd be at the mercy of whoever we had around him when it came to things such as foreign policy.
5. Christie. I have a hard time deciding between these last three. Maybe if Christie didn't give Obama to hug (okay, maybe there wasn't an actual hug, but it felt like there was), I'd be more open to him. It would be gratifying in a sense to sick him on the Dems. You know he's a hothead, and that there would be some measure of the bridge closing payback coming the Dem's way. He would mess with them in all kinds of ways IMO. As delicious as that sounds, I'm not sure it serves us well in the long run (though, I admit I might be wrong about that). It's tempting to support him, but I'm just not convinced he's quite as good as he claims he is. Maybe it's because I've known too many New York/Jersey guys who were full of crap and I'm leery. Still, if he wins it, I'm fine with it.
2. Cruz. Smart, good on his feet. Principled. Not sure I know any Repub who doesn't like him. The only thing I ever hear said negative about him is that he's just "unelectable" because he's so straight line Conservative. I'm not sure how much he would get done as President, because he's THAT principled and ideological. At this point, differentiating between him and Rubio comes down to some very subjective things. While I don't agree that he would be unelectable, I think he wouldn't be as appealing as Rubio. His smile is a bit awkward. He comes off as ticked off most of the time. And it feels like he'd be willing to go scorched Earth to hold the line. I'm not sure I want that. As much as I think I'm right, there's a whole other half of the country that has to be taken into consideration. I know the Dems haven't taken the Repubs into consideration, but I'd like a President who cares about everyone. I'm not sure Cruz does.
1. Rubio. He certainly has some flaws, but he's got a million dollar smile and the wit to be President. I don't think he would be as principled as some of the other candidates, but I think he would be popular and serve the 8 years, as well as setting the bed for the Repub to follow him. He's gonna run into intense "war on women" attacks because he changed his stance and now says abortion shouldn't be allowed even in the case of rape and incest. That's gonna make the women go nuts.
Anyway, that's how I see it today. Subject to change.
quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
Many of you are really slow. You should have left the party at least a decade ago. Stop voting party vote for the individual.
At last.........someone who can see what the party vote has gotten us.
Comments
What difference does it make anymore? Both parties apparently have the same goals, the only thing different is the path taken, the rhetoric used, and the manner it's presented by the media in order to guide the herd and garner a particular response.
+1
serf
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2012/12/10/brown-john-boehner-leads-republicans-into-political-little-big-horn/?subscriber
Speaker of the House, John Boehner, the highest elected leader of the Republican Party, is headed for a similar annihilation at the hands of Barack Obama. It is a battle brought about by Boehner's earlier unwillingness to fight a determined and deadly foe. Now John Boehner's failed leadership may mortally wound the modern Republican Party.
How did we get here? John Boehner, at nearly every critical juncture has raised the white flag of capitulation.
Jeb Bush was a two term Governor here in Florida, he was a great governor (check his record) and I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
Judging him by his last name is a poor and narrow minded approach to viewing him as a presidential candidate in my opinion.
It will be interesting however, to see who the Republicans finally endorse for the office.
I would also not vote for anyone named Kennedy.
I will vote for the winner this time..
When I did that they forced him to resign.
Whomever wins the REP nomination gets my vote as the alternative is, well, not an option. Again, if folks who call themselves conservatives stick together (and that is doubtful reading the answers on this thread by Indirect DEM Supporters IMO) we can get a more conservative person in the White House. But those who either stayed home the last two elections, or wasted their votes on some loon who had no chance...well, look what we got. Like Franklin said, if we can hang together we will not hang separately. I ain't happy about another Bush....but more unhappy about another Clinton. Got to deal with reality.
Conservative and Republican have never been 100% interchangeable, and have been nowhere close to interchangeable since 1964.
Those who call themselves Republican will vote for Jeb Bush. Those that actually believe in the conservative value of Constitutional Government will not.
There is no legitimate mainstream conservatism in the modern GOP. It simply tries to use the Federal Government to over-reach in different ways than do the Democrats.
To be clear.
Jeb Bush will never get my vote.
Chris Christy will never get my vote.
Marco Rubio will never get my vote.
Ted Cruz has an outside chance of convincing me to vote for him. He needs to temper his love affair with military spending, and also needs to realize that the Federal Government has no business defining marriage.
Jim DeMint may get my vote. I think his stint at the Heritage Foundation has cleaned up his views as to some of the Federal Over-reach he supported as a Senator, but he would have to come out and state it.
Rand Paul would probably get my vote. I would like him to wait four years so that he is a better known commodity, with fuller record, particularly if in the majority in 2015, but he getting a whole lot of exposure right now, and rarely misses.
Unless something big changes, it is likely that the next President will have a GOP House and Senate. If that is the case, we need a GOP President that will not, as almost all have done in recent memory, use the consolidated power to expand government, expand the military, and play fast and loose with personal liberty.
Hmmmmm...... Other than the military thing, just like the Democrats do. How remarkably unsurprising.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by gary wray
Whomever wins the REP nomination gets my vote as the alternative is, well, not an option. Again, if folks who call themselves conservatives stick together (and that is doubtful reading the answers on this thread by Indirect DEM Supporters IMO) we can get a more conservative person in the White House. But those who either stayed home the last two elections, or wasted their votes on some loon who had no chance...well, look what we got. Like Franklin said, if we can hang together we will not hang separately. I ain't happy about another Bush....but more unhappy about another Clinton. Got to deal with reality.
Conservative and Republican have never been 100% interchangeable, and have been nowhere close to interchangeable since 1964.
Those who call themselves Republican will vote for Jeb Bush. Those that actually believe in the conservative value of Constitutional Government will not.
There is no legitimate mainstream conservatism in the modern GOP. It simply tries to use the Federal Government to over-reach in different ways than do the Democrats.
To be clear.
Jeb Bush will never get my vote.
Chris Christy will never get my vote.
Marco Rubio will never get my vote.
Ted Cruz has an outside chance of convincing me to vote for him. He needs to temper his love affair with military spending, and also needs to realize that the Federal Government has no business defining marriage.
Jim DeMint may get my vote. I think his stint at the Heritage Foundation has cleaned up his views as to some of the Federal Over-reach he supported as a Senator, but he would have to come out and state it.
Rand Paul would probably get my vote. I would like him to wait four years so that he is a better known commodity, with fuller record, particularly if in the majority in 2015, but he getting a whole lot of exposure right now, and rarely misses.
Unless something big changes, it is likely that the next President will have a GOP House and Senate. If that is the case, we need a GOP President that will not, as almost all have done in recent memory, use the consolidated power to expand government, expand the military, and play fast and loose with personal liberty.
Hmmmmm...... Other than the military thing, just like the Democrats do. How remarkably unsurprising.
Put me in....[;)]
bother to vote, I may decide to vote, however I will not be better off whom ever wins.
I know you moral high grounders will continue
to not vote, or vote for that guy that no chance
in all of creation of winning, and that's what
put us where we're at now.[B)]
I'll go out on a limb here and say the demographics have shifted to such a huge degree that Republicans are unlikely to ever win the white house again. If not now, then certainly within the next one or two election cycles. Once amnesty is given, over 3/4th of the tens of millions will be reliable democrats. So by your logic, we should all just vote democrat in presidential elections since they're going to win anyway.
A man stands by principal; voting for a lesser of two evils is immoral.
quote:Originally posted by topdad
I know you moral high grounders will continue
to not vote, or vote for that guy that no chance
in all of creation of winning, and that's what
put us where we're at now.[B)]
I'll go out on a limb here and say the demographics have shifted to such a huge degree that Republicans are unlikely to ever win the white house again. If not now, then certainly within the next one or two election cycles. Once amnesty is given, over 3/4th of the tens of millions will be reliable democrats. So by your logic, we should all just vote democrat in presidential elections since tfhey're going to win anyway.
A man stands by principal; voting for a lesser of two evils is immoral.
y
You may/could be correct, Dumcrats, Republicrats, my life is good and I will work hard to see that it does not change, Polk is still the only President who got everything he asked for, all six propositions that changed life's by expanding our country by fifty percent.
That should work out real well for us all.
Sure sounds great, Hillary could be VP and Nancy Pelosi chief of staff, Chuck Schumer Attorney General and Harry Reid Sec. of State.
That should work out real well for us all.
Now that would certainly be a horrifying lineup!!!
Sure sounds great, Hillary could be VP and Nancy Pelosi chief of staff, Chuck Schumer Attorney General and Harry Reid Sec. of State.
That should work out real well for us all.
My eyes are burning. Thought I would look up this post now that its been a year, now that Jeb has stepped out into the "light".
Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list. Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush
The Supremes have usurped the control & it is long past time to restore the three balanced branches of government that we are supposed to have.
Draft Scalia for president.
The bottom line we have to remember is that whoever becomes President will nominate people for the Supreme Court. Since those nine people are the ones who make the laws & rule the country we may have to hold our noses & vote for anyone who is not Billery.
The Supremes have usurped the control & it is long past time to restore the three balanced branches of government that we are supposed to have.
Draft Scalia for president.
And John Roberts has worked out so well......
Bury your head in the republican's azzez if you like.
The vaunted "conservative" Ronny Reagan banned more guns and granted amnesty to more illegals than Peanuts Carter, Klinton and Barachus Obamus combined!
Is Jeb up for the challenge or is he just going to blow out like a candle?
Wiff!
America must have someone else besides a Bush or Clinton to run the country?
We don't need a dynasty like North Korea.
Trump is a hot air balloon and Carson may have been a great surgeon but I think he is also an idiot.
10. Kasich. Great on policy, but Trump was right in the debate, he got lucky with fracking, otherwise, Ohio would be in a big hole right now, and he wouldn't have a shot. He just doesn't strike me as a leader. A leader has to have at least SOME measure of charisma, because he has to convince people he's right, and Kasich doesn't have that IMO. Secretary of Labor? Sure. President? No.
9. Carson. He's learning on the fly. He has changed his position on three or four different issues already. Being a doctor is even less of a qualification for being President than being a CEO. Seems like a wonderful man. Kind Honest. He needs to run for governor somewhere before I'd be ready to hand him the reins of the country. Surgeon General? Absolutely. President? No.
8. Bush. Too much baggage. Too much outside money for my comfort. There is no doubt in my mind that, if there was another banking crisis, he'd bail them out. He will cave to the PC crowd because he thinks it's inevitable that they're gonna win anyway, and he will essentially govern as a Dem IMO. Not to mention that his delivery when he speaks is terrible, so he will get destroyed by Hillary in any debate. He just doesn't inspire any sense of trust in me. I'm not sure I've seen a less charismatic politician. He reminds me of the classroom geek saying, Come on guys, stop it."
7. Paul. I love Rand, I had high hopes for him, but he reminds me of a libertarian Obama. He seems to be more comfortable lecturing on rights and the constitution than he does leading. There is no doubt he would TRY to shrink government, but there's a lot more involved in running the country than that. Secretary of the Treasury, I'm all over that. President? No.
6. Fiorina. I think she could make a good President, but I think she has a serious likeability problem. That alone doesn't disqualify her, but it makes her harder to elect in a general election. She comes off as cold and harsh. Efficiency is wonderful. She is the queen of efficiency. It's tempting to give her the benefit of the doubt, because Margaret Thatcher came across the same way at times, but these last six candidates have to be separated somehow, and I don't think she's got the personality to get elected.
5. Huckabee. Huck is a nice man. He was a good governor, and he's likeable. But he comes across as impractical at times, like when he talks about social security. Sure, it's the "right" thing to do to give everyone their full share, but we all know it's gonna take some serious gerrymandering from here on in to make the money work, and I think it's important to have someone in there who isn't sooo nice that they aren't willing to screw someone over, because, well someone's getting screwed no matter what we do.
4. Trump. Yeah, I love the Donald and what he says. I love that he isn't beholden to any special interest groups. I believe him when he says he'll build a wall, and that he'll get the Mexicans to pay for it. Just because the dopes at CNBC can't think of a way to do that, doesn't mean Trump can't. But I think there's something to be said for having governing experience. If there weren't three candidates as qualified as the three ahead of him running, I'd have no problem letting Trump take control of the country. I think he'd get bored eventually, because governing isn't like running a business. There's a lot of mundane stuff to take care of. He'd be great at the figurehead aspect, and he's a guy I'd want at the negotiating table, but I think he couldn't care less about half of the things a President needs to care about, so we'd be at the mercy of whoever we had around him when it came to things such as foreign policy.
5. Christie. I have a hard time deciding between these last three. Maybe if Christie didn't give Obama to hug (okay, maybe there wasn't an actual hug, but it felt like there was), I'd be more open to him. It would be gratifying in a sense to sick him on the Dems. You know he's a hothead, and that there would be some measure of the bridge closing payback coming the Dem's way. He would mess with them in all kinds of ways IMO. As delicious as that sounds, I'm not sure it serves us well in the long run (though, I admit I might be wrong about that). It's tempting to support him, but I'm just not convinced he's quite as good as he claims he is. Maybe it's because I've known too many New York/Jersey guys who were full of crap and I'm leery. Still, if he wins it, I'm fine with it.
2. Cruz. Smart, good on his feet. Principled. Not sure I know any Repub who doesn't like him. The only thing I ever hear said negative about him is that he's just "unelectable" because he's so straight line Conservative. I'm not sure how much he would get done as President, because he's THAT principled and ideological. At this point, differentiating between him and Rubio comes down to some very subjective things. While I don't agree that he would be unelectable, I think he wouldn't be as appealing as Rubio. His smile is a bit awkward. He comes off as ticked off most of the time. And it feels like he'd be willing to go scorched Earth to hold the line. I'm not sure I want that. As much as I think I'm right, there's a whole other half of the country that has to be taken into consideration. I know the Dems haven't taken the Repubs into consideration, but I'd like a President who cares about everyone. I'm not sure Cruz does.
1. Rubio. He certainly has some flaws, but he's got a million dollar smile and the wit to be President. I don't think he would be as principled as some of the other candidates, but I think he would be popular and serve the 8 years, as well as setting the bed for the Repub to follow him. He's gonna run into intense "war on women" attacks because he changed his stance and now says abortion shouldn't be allowed even in the case of rape and incest. That's gonna make the women go nuts.
Anyway, that's how I see it today. Subject to change.
Many of you are really slow. You should have left the party at least a decade ago. Stop voting party vote for the individual.
At last.........someone who can see what the party vote has gotten us.
Now is the time to back the next Party Nominee...
TRUMP
Today I would vote TRUMP