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Who among you who seem to dislike Muslims have taken the time to learn about the Muslims and what their beliefs are or are not?
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Who among you who seem to dislike Muslims have taken the time to learn about the Muslims and what their beliefs are or are not?
Dislike is to kind of a word. I hate the SOB's. The koran says for them to kill the infidels that won't convert to Islam. That's all you need to know.
quote:Originally posted by penguin
Who among you who seem to dislike Muslims have taken the time to learn about the Muslims and what their beliefs are or are not?
Dislike is to kind of a word. I hate the SOB's. The koran says for them to kill the infidels that won't convert to Islam. That's all you need to know.
Nothing to add to that response except to point out the Muslims have been a murdering hoard of heathens since the pedophile nut-job founded this absurd self inflicted mental illness masquerading as a religion.
I hate them for attacking my way of life, and I don't want or need to know any more about them than that.
I see nothing about Islam that should be allowed to survive in this world. Even the so called "peaceful" ones practice cruelty and abuse on their wives and families. And secretly I believe they applaud most of the actions of the "radical" azzhole murderers.
No, there is nothing about Islam I find worthwhile.
They want "join or die", I prefer that they "quit or die."
Are you sure you are not talking about Catholics?
I do care that they flew a couple of airliners into American buildings and have, since that time, launched several attacks on American and European civilians in the name of their religion.
But where these wacko's(radicals) come from is their religious leaders. They have their own believes and it is does not always follow the Koran.
They get away with it cause most of their followers cannot read. So they can tell them anything and they believe it to be from the Koran.
If God is all powerful why would he ever need anybody to kill someone for him? Any person who believes God need him to go kill somebody else doesn't have the brain of a fruit fly. The mores stupid a person is the more dangerous they are.
There were people in the old testament just as stupid as the terrorists today.
On that note, screw you. The easiest thing to understand about Muslims is that Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology based on conquest masquerading as a religion.
Next on the list is that their behavior comports with the writings of the original goat buggerer, but they regularly deny that the writings say what they say.
There is also the ever present nonsense about the radical Muslims vs the moderate Muslims. In actual practice we see that the radical Muslims want to kill us. The moderate Muslims want the radical Muslims to kill us.
Finally penguin, in case you missed it: Screw you. Go play your Word Games for Children somewhere. I find your question and it's phrasing insulting. If you are likewise feeling insulted, good. That was my intent.
Who among you who seem to dislike Muslims have taken the time to learn about the Muslims and what their beliefs are or are not?
Friggin' idiot. All you need to do is watch video of WTC and people jumping out of windows to their deaths to understand just how much the muslimes hate us - F them. What kind of ahole are you? Go visit Iran and see how much they like you.
While I may disagree, anyone can think anything they want--two people can look at the same passage, or photo, or situation, and have three different opinions about it. That's not for me to say is right or wrong.
I have my own opinion. I understand (in my mind) that the animals who attacked the WTC and are trying to form an "Islamic State" are not adherents of the religion (or cult, or whatever you want to call it) that over a billion human beings adhere to. However, they certainly are getting the press. My mission (and livelihood) is to stop them. No matter what their rationale, nor their so-called "religion". I don't care why they do what they do, only that they want to do it.
However, "Muslims" who just want to live their own lives, I have no problem with. Are there some of these? Yes, in my opinion, the majority are. But if people don't agree with that, then that's their opinion and they are welcome to it. It's unfortunate there is so much hatred, however. Even the terrorists I target I don't "hate".
Seems at best an arrogant claim to make, at worst a naive fantasy that leaves us open to half measures and misguided paths unlikely to achieve success. The lack of success, not coincidentally, that we have seen.
Why deal with reality when a fairy tale is available.
There is also the ever present nonsense about the radical Muslims vs the moderate Muslims. In actual practice we see that the radical Muslims want to kill us. The moderate Muslims want the radical Muslims to kill us.
That is exactly what the low life's want to happen.
a-ones that want to kill you
b-ones that will kill you
To answer the OP's question, yes, I have read up on the history of Islam and the break between the Shiites and the Sunnis. Having done so, I still willingly work to support our combat operations against them.
From what I have read and that is to include the Koran. It is no more violent than the Bible has against none believers.
But where these wacko's(radicals) come from is their religious leaders. They have their own believes and it is does not always follow the Koran.
They get away with it cause most of their followers cannot read. So they can tell them anything and they believe it to be from the Koran.
Please cite the passage in the Bible that tells Christians to kill those who do not convert.
To the OP: Your question itself implies that anyone who 'dislikes' Muslims has not taken the time to understand their beliefs. You base that implication on what? That those who aren't fans of Muslims hold a different opinion than your's, and are therefore wrong?
On that note, screw you. The easiest thing to understand about Muslims is that Islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology based on conquest masquerading as a religion.
Next on the list is that their behavior comports with the writings of the original goat buggerer, but they regularly deny that the writings say what they say.
There is also the ever present nonsense about the radical Muslims vs the moderate Muslims. In actual practice we see that the radical Muslims want to kill us. The moderate Muslims want the radical Muslims to kill us.
Finally penguin, in case you missed it: Screw you. Go play your Word Games for Children somewhere. I find your question and it's phrasing insulting. If you are likewise feeling insulted, good. That was my intent.
Bingo! We have a winner and it is not sugar coated one bit.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Wow. It's amazing how many people read their own meaning into the OP's simple question. He never said he approves of Islam or the practices of some of its adherents. He simply asked if those of you who dislike Muslims have ever taken the time to legitimately research it. After doing so, you will probably still dislike them, or even hate them worse. But, it will be from a position of knowledge.
To answer the OP's question, yes, I have read up on the history of Islam and the break between the Shiites and the Sunnis. Having done so, I still willingly work to support our combat operations against them.
Really! So I could waste my time, research and read, and still come to same opinion I originally had from over forty years of observation and personal interaction?
Simply amazing!
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Wow. It's amazing how many people read their own meaning into the OP's simple question. He never said he approves of Islam or the practices of some of its adherents. He simply asked if those of you who dislike Muslims have ever taken the time to legitimately research it. After doing so, you will probably still dislike them, or even hate them worse. But, it will be from a position of knowledge.
To answer the OP's question, yes, I have read up on the history of Islam and the break between the Shiites and the Sunnis. Having done so, I still willingly work to support our combat operations against them.
It's amazing you can't recognize a loaded question when you're slapped in the face with one.
Don't mean to be obtuse...I just really don't know.
I think Muslims feel that any Quran not written in Arabic is not accurate. There are many translations. Must be tough for them! [;)]
Personally I'd pull out, sanction the crap out of that countries (or not) and don't let our folks travel there. If they do and get hacked up it's on their dumb *. As for the 'fugees as long as they don't wash up here where ever they do it's that country choice.
It's now a whack-a-mole blotchy world wide money and lives costing cluster fork.
Discrimination, Muslims are permitted and impelled to discriminate against non-Muslims.
Abolition of adoption rights otherwise granted under American laws.
Abolition of Wills, Inheritance Instruments and Last Testaments established under American laws.
Abolition of certain interest income otherwise specified in loan, mortgage and other borrowing documents.
Diminished rights of women in court. It takes the testimony of two women to equal one man in Sharia court.
Polygamy, Muslim men may marry up to four wives. Muhammad married thirteen women in violation of the Quran which he inspired his prophets to write.
Pedophilia, "Muslim men can marry girls as young as 14. However, Muhammad took a wife named Ayesha that was nine years old.
Muslim husbands are given the right to beat their wives as a form of discipline.
Severe discipline toward women including isolation, discrimination, full body cover, genital mutilation and beatings.
Savage retribution including amputating limbs and gouging out eyes for crimes like theft.
Barbaric marital punishment toward women including rape, honor killing and public stoning.
The killing of adulterers, samesexuals and Islamist apostates.
Imprisonment and/or execution of blasphemers and non-believers.
Vicious jihad against non-Muslims to establish Islams rule worldwide. Muslims who cannot take on physical jihad must support it with their money.
1. Pretend to be a Refugee in order to gain access to your chosen Country of Invasion
2. Play the minority card while having more children than the native population.
3. Infiltrate politics and call others racists and bigots if they don't agree with you.
4. Implement a watered down version of Sharia Law with help from the useful idiots on the left.
5. Kill ALL that DO NOT SUBMIT to Islam in Accordance with the Tenets of the Koran and Repeat in Every Western Country until Dominant.
This is and will CONTINUE TO BE THEIR STRATEGY.
"We have No Strategy. No Focus. An Impotent President that has tied the hands of Our Military. This is very easy for the Un-Indoctrinated to Understand.....Not easy for the Left and blind supporters of Obama. Islam is the Enemy. Historically and Today. THEY Are the Enemy of Freedom and Liberty and ALL that is Good.
"THAT is the Problem because THEY have a Strategy. They are gathering by the Tens of Thousands. Hidden in the Civilian Population. Bringing their Weapons. What do you think the beheadings are all about? The Crucifixions? It is ALL in the Koran. All in their Book. They have NEVER Hidden their Agenda. They Read it All the Time."
"They are there for one reason and One reason Only. To Die for the Caliphate and Usher in a World without Infidels. That's Their Strategy. It has been that way since the 7th Century.
I don't fault anyone's right to their religious beliefs.
HOWEVER when your interpretation of your religion implies that I have to comply with it, believe in it or be impacted, damaged, slaughtered because of it then screw your religion and your right to practice it.
Well, how would Jews view Nazis?
Jews would divide them into three groups: Nazis that order the murder of Jews, Nazis who carry out the order to kill Jews and lastly Nazi who watch as those Nazis carry out the order to kill Jews
So we have the basis on how Americans should view Muslims
Americans would divide them into three groups: Muslims that order the murder of Americans, Muslims who carry out the order to kill Americans and lastly Muslims who watch as those Muslims carry out the order to kill Americans
Do I personally hate Muslims? Actually no, not at all.
But, that does not lesson on my resolve to defeat and destroy the enemies of Freedom and of America even to the last goat lover
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
W.D.
Unfortunately, like Judaism and Christianity, the practitioners put their own peculiar twist upon the writings and make the writings conform to their beliefs rather than making their beliefs conform to the writings.
Judaics and Christians have managed to evolve to the point that their different sects only seek to mold the minds of followers to a certain viewpoint using non-violent means, and attract new adherents in similar fashion. Unfortunately, Islam has not yet evolved to that point. They still find it necessary to force their belief system upon others using (shall we say) more nefarious means.
Killing people who do not have the same spiritual beliefs as yourself is not acceptable in a civilized world. Muslims need to be made aware of this by whatever means are necessary.
Supposing their left (non eating) hand was "CHOPPED OFF" for some MINOR Muslim infraction? (Major infractions require a two part burial).
What is the Muslime to do? Short of dipping their face in food (messy/smelly) there are these suggestions.
Who knows,, but in the mean time, having a clean, "Clean Hand" can be assured by NOT USING IT TO WIPE YOUR ***.
New IDEA:
No instructions needed. The visual can be easily interpreted into many languages.
I would guess like every other religion their are about a zillion ways to interpret it.
Only if you're a dullard and can't comprehend what you read.