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Campaign Trump vs. President Trump

Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
edited September 2016 in Politics
I'm sitting here wondering if there would be a difference between campaign Trump and President Trump.

He's spent a good portion of the campaign trail pissing people off and acting like a jerk.

There's a part of me that wonders if most of it is just show, like he feels that's how to get ratings?

I don't know. Personally, I view his meeting with the Mexican President a success, for whatever it was actually worth. Honestly, my expectations were pretty low, so I was ripe to be impressed. And he did that.

Does that bode more for how he would govern, in your opinion, or do we expect to see a lot more of "say this" "backtrack that" as president. I guess only time will tell, and frankly I have some real reservations about it.

I've said this before (Shilowar, you will probably remember this) but just about every time I have myself convinced I could maybe vote for the guy, he goes and does something over the top ridiculous to remove those thoughts.

On the one hand, I see him as potentially being a pretty dangerous demagogue, which means there is a lot to lose.

On the other hand, it's nearly impossible to tell if most of it is just a show. I tend to believe not, but then he goes and does this.
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain

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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways.


    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-hispanic-leaders-arizona-immigration-227615
    If ever a verse was misapplied by you, that one would take it.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • woodhogwoodhog Member Posts: 13,115 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hee's a salesman, plain and simple. He will say or do anything that he feels will seal the deal at that moment. He doesn't have that liitle brain thing that gives one feedback as to what you already said, its all BS. The emperor has no clothes. He'll say anything, but has no plans to DO anything.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quite frankly you have no choice.

    1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    2. To vote third party is to give a vote to the Hildabeast.

    3. Voting for the Hildabeast is just insane.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Alpine hits the nail on the head:

    quote:1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    I think there is a very pragmatic result from how he has conducted himself.

    While the issues and positions he has taken are viewed very favorably by many people, darn few of those people would know about those positions if Trump behaved as the usual Republican candidate. The media would do their usual slanted coverage, which includes giving very little time to the R, and spending craploads of time on the D.

    The media has been showing what they consider to be Trump's antics, because they do not understand that people like what they are hearing. We have seen politicians who spend a bunch of time talking about the 'good friend on the other side of the aisle'. Most of us think those on the 'other side of the aisle' ought to be drawn, quartered, and shot.

    These are not Ds as they were when it was Truman and Kennedy. These are communists and people who believe Western Civilization is the biggest blight ever foisted upon the planet. I don't want to get along with the Ds. I want to destroy them. They consider today's compromise as the starting point for tomorrow's negotiations.

    Whether it is Trump, or someone else, it will likely never be a 'normal politician' who might correct the course this country is on.

    I am beginning to think that if Trump does not win, we either surrender, or load and lock. At that point, wonderful manners in electiosn is going to be far from the topic of the day.
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Quite frankly you have no choice.

    1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    2. To vote third party is to give a vote to the Hildabeast.

    3. Voting for the Hildabeast is just insane.





    Spot on, well said in few words.

    Thank you sir !!

    GO TRUMP !!!!!
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
    Alpine hits the nail on the head:

    quote:1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    I think there is a very pragmatic result from how he has conducted himself.

    While the issues and positions he has taken are viewed very favorably by many people, darn few of those people would know about those positions if Trump behaved as the usual Republican candidate. The media would do their usual slanted coverage, which includes giving very little time to the R, and spending craploads of time on the D.

    The media has been showing what they consider to be Trump's antics, because they do not understand that people like what they are hearing. We have seen politicians who spend a bunch of time talking about the 'good friend on the other side of the aisle'. Most of us think those on the 'other side of the aisle' ought to be drawn, quartered, and shot.

    These are not Ds as they were when it was Truman and Kennedy. These are communists and people who believe Western Civilization is the biggest blight ever foisted upon the planet. I don't want to get along with the Ds. I want to destroy them. They consider today's compromise as the starting point for tomorrow's negotiations.

    Whether it is Trump, or someone else, it will likely never be a 'normal politician' who might correct the course this country is on.

    I am beginning to think that if Trump does not win, we either surrender, or load and lock. At that point, wonderful manners in electiosn is going to be far from the topic of the day.

    X-Ring
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The way I see it you have a "A politically Correct script speech"
    Given in Mexico and the one he gave after Mexico's meeting was not.

    The message is the same. What do you want to hear?

    1. "We will Deport Illegal Aliens that have broken our immigration laws"

    Or the watered down PC version-

    2. "We will relocate undocumented migrants back to the country of origin"

    Same message- nothing different. Unless you watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and all the other alphabet networks then go into a media tizzy that he is flip flopping.[:D][;)]
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
    Alpine hits the nail on the head:

    quote:1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    I think there is a very pragmatic result from how he has conducted himself.

    While the issues and positions he has taken are viewed very favorably by many people, darn few of those people would know about those positions if Trump behaved as the usual Republican candidate. The media would do their usual slanted coverage, which includes giving very little time to the R, and spending craploads of time on the D.

    The media has been showing what they consider to be Trump's antics, because they do not understand that people like what they are hearing. We have seen politicians who spend a bunch of time talking about the 'good friend on the other side of the aisle'. Most of us think those on the 'other side of the aisle' ought to be drawn, quartered, and shot.

    These are not Ds as they were when it was Truman and Kennedy. These are communists and people who believe Western Civilization is the biggest blight ever foisted upon the planet. I don't want to get along with the Ds. I want to destroy them. They consider today's compromise as the starting point for tomorrow's negotiations.

    Whether it is Trump, or someone else, it will likely never be a 'normal politician' who might correct the course this country is on.

    I am beginning to think that if Trump does not win, we either surrender, or load and lock. At that point, wonderful manners in electiosn is going to be far from the topic of the day.

    X-Ring


    Same with the RINOs
    What's next?
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect


    I've said this before (Shilowar, you will probably remember this) but just about every time I have myself convinced I could maybe vote for the guy, he goes and does something over the top ridiculous to remove those thoughts.

    On the one hand, I see him as potentially being a pretty dangerous demagogue, which means there is a lot to lose.

    On the other hand, it's nearly impossible to tell if most of it is just a show. I tend to believe not, but then he goes and does this.


    +1

    Same boat....
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Quite frankly you have no choice.

    1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    2. To vote third party is to give a vote to the Hildabeast.

    3. Voting for the Hildabeast is just insane.



    Sorry, you're flat wrong. And with as many times as I bumped this thread up for views, I'm surprised you missed it. http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=680739
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unlike Clinton. Trump is not a puppet repeating what he is told to say by his pay for play masters...

    That is why Trump should be your choice.
    "What is truth?'
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,510 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Quite frankly you have no choice.

    1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    2. To vote third party is to give a vote to the Hildabeast.

    3. Voting for the Hildabeast is just insane.





    My mind set also. I also think that we are not use to a person speaking his mind, without regrets, running for President. Ask yourself, have we ever had a person run for this office that didn't care whom they offended and made no apologies for it, when called on the carpet???Trump is what you see. A little goofy/crazy, but also very brilliant and forthcoming. You get what you see. I have read stories of him behind closed doors, and people say he is totally different. One of our board of directors on the gun club, Richard Harrison, runs Trumps National golf course in Pine Hill. He has told us all, that the real Donald is a very caring man about all people and races. He is very good to strangers and so on. He is not what you always see on TV. Do I like Trump??? Not sure. I am I voting for him???? Hell yeah. Look at the alternative and it is not Gary Johnson . I never even heard of him, as most people, since he is a third party candidate, that doesn't have a snow balls chance. Seriously, what chance does he have???? We have never voted third party and we never will. I retract that. We might. I never thought I would be voting for a non career politician either.[:I] Anyway, this far along, Trump will get my vote.
  • kimikimi Member Posts: 44,719 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Vote for whom want, but this is one time that if you have a conscience, it's best to be on the inside looking out, rather than on the outside looking in. Not an easy regret to have to live with until your last breath.
    What's next?
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Listen to Trumps speech in Mexico a few days ago. There isn't one part of it that requires a degree in understanding.

    10 minutes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSWF71EKp6g

    Maybe a link to the OTHER Trump speech? Prefer to listen to what Trump says rather than having someone tell me what he means.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways.


    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-hispanic-leaders-arizona-immigration-227615
    If ever a verse was misapplied by you, that one would take it.


    There is no attribution, quotes, or verse reference.

    Therefore, while it is certainly parallel to a reference to a scriptural verse, it was not intended to be taken as a direct scriptural quote and therefore cannot misapplied.

    You really do need to learn the basics before taking it upon yourself to criticize.
    Maybe you should learn the definition of verse.[;)]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    now one could melt hilde down and gather enuff wax to make a candle to see to vote
  • usmc1978usmc1978 Member Posts: 226 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you vote for anyone but Trump, you're voting for Clinton and screwing us all. Kiss your guns goodbye.
    "Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen. James Mattis, USMC
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by us55840
    quote:Originally posted by Alpine
    Quite frankly you have no choice.

    1. He is not a politician. Quit expecting him to act like one. We have tried politicians it has not worked out well.

    2. To vote third party is to give a vote to the Hildabeast.

    3. Voting for the Hildabeast is just insane.






    ^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^

    THERE IS NO CHOICE ~ vote Trump!

    [^]


    Yep.... +1
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways.


    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-hispanic-leaders-arizona-immigration-227615


    Yeah but your boyfriend says your a double input guy
    Sie sind ein Esel-schobling von hillary.
    Typical DB loser camped here for attention.
  • AmishAmish Member Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Clinton is a gun grabber. enuff said.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by usmc1978
    If you vote for anyone but Trump, you're voting for Clinton and screwing us all. Kiss your guns goodbye.
    Not so at all. www.balancedrebellion.com
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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