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Johnson/Weld

Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
edited September 2016 in Politics
Say what you will about the Johnson/Weld ticket, the two men have voices that are easy to listen to.

Contrasted with Hillary's shrill screaming and Trump's saying "ok" and "believe me" on repeat and other hysterics. It's pretty refreshing, particularly in view of Chocolate Jesus' condescending tone for the last 8 years.
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  • casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had trouble listening to Johnsons reaction to the phrase illegal immigrant.

    OH and his acceptance of socialism as long it is done democratically. I do not accept the Libertarian position that 49.9% must bow to the will of 50.1% when the issues are un- Constitutional .
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    Acceptance of majority approved and unconstitutional socialism?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    They really have the best platform of the three. It's unfortunate that the best they can ever hope to do is garner about 8% of the votes in the few states in which they can receive enough signatures to get onto the ballot.
  • casper1947casper1947 Member Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Acceptance of majority approved and unconstitutional socialism?

    http://www.redstate.com/diary/TylerJoseph/2016/05/31/gary-johnson-proves-isnt-much-libertarian/

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/johnson-agree-73-percent-sanders/


    "And look, libertarians agree with socialism as long as it's voluntary. But, when it's forced, that's tyranny."

    And comment from the above article:

    "While I suspect most libertarians disagree with Johnson on this point, it got me thinking about the fundamental differences between conservatism and libertarianism. For Johnson, socialism is an inferior economic system to free market capitalism, but he would be fine with it if the American population as a whole decided to implement it."

    I believe in enumerated powers, and have yet to find Constitutional authorization Federal funding of education, Section eight housing. or even Medicaid just to mention a few. Voluntary or democratically or the ballot box does not make these Constitutional.
  • TfloggerTflogger Member Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Open boarders is enough for me to tell these guys to buzz off.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hope my Marijuana stock goes up...
  • usmc1978usmc1978 Member Posts: 226 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Please, please, please don't split the vote. We've been there and done that, in '92. It guaranteed a Clinton in the White House then, and it will guarantee a Clinton in the White House now. If Hillary gets in our gun rights are screwed.
    "Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen. James Mattis, USMC
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by usmc1978
    Please, please, please don't split the vote. We've been there and done that, in '92. It guaranteed a Clinton in the White House then, and it will guarantee a Clinton in the White House now. If Hillary gets in our gun rights are screwed.



    Yep but ya have "richard" heads who don't get that.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by casper1947
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Acceptance of majority approved and unconstitutional socialism?

    http://www.redstate.com/diary/TylerJoseph/2016/05/31/gary-johnson-proves-isnt-much-libertarian/

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/johnson-agree-73-percent-sanders/


    "And look, libertarians agree with socialism as long as it's voluntary. But, when it's forced, that's tyranny."

    And comment from the above article:

    "While I suspect most libertarians disagree with Johnson on this point, it got me thinking about the fundamental differences between conservatism and libertarianism. For Johnson, socialism is an inferior economic system to free market capitalism, but he would be fine with it if the American population as a whole decided to implement it."

    I believe in enumerated powers, and have yet to find Constitutional authorization Federal funding of education, Section eight housing. or even Medicaid just to mention a few. Voluntary or democratically or the ballot box does not make these Constitutional.

    I understand why that causes heartache in some, but the reality is that it is the mode of maximum liberty. Keeping in mind of course that that is not the same as saying that 51% get to pick that the nation goes socialist.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Johnson is a buffoon, in way over his head.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    Say what you will about the Johnson/Weld ticket, the two men have voices that are easy to listen to.

    Contrasted with Hillary's shrill screaming and Trump's saying "ok" and "believe me" on repeat and other hysterics. It's pretty refreshing, particularly in view of Chocolate Jesus' condescending tone for the last 8 years.
    Voices?.....makes a candidate?.......man, are you groping...[V]
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by casper1947
    I had trouble listening to Johnsons reaction to the phrase illegal immigrant.

    OH and his acceptance of socialism as long it is done democratically. I do not accept the Libertarian position that 49.9% must bow to the will of 50.1% when the issues are un- Constitutional .



    That's what Chavez said, plus just a few "tweeks" to the Venezuelan Constitution. Not much, just to GET IT DONE DEMOCRATICALLY

    Watched the Venezuelan crisis unfold, from start to,, almost finished.

    Bernie supporters, take note.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435522/socialism-venezuela-hugo-chavez-nicolas-maduro-bernie-sanders-millennials

    Colombia accepts thousands more refugees. Why ? Who knows but Chavez "deported thousands of Colombians". Turned out he was doing them a favor.

    http://www.cctv-america.com/2016/08/04/silent-arrival-thousands-of-venezuelans-leaving-for-colombia
  • cranky2cranky2 Member Posts: 3,236 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Might be easy to listen to both they are both nuts.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gary Johnson is a fruitcake,....so is Weld.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Had someone tell me they were voting for the Librarian!

    LOL
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Marc1301
    Gary Johnson is a fruitcake,....so is Weld.
    True, but less so than Trump, IMO.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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