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pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
edited October 2016 in Politics
The Catholic Church - An interesting read
----Regardless of whether or not you are Catholic, this is an interesting read. Some good wisdom before the November election.
Charity Hospital run by the Sisters of Charity in New Orleans, along with the Upjohn company developed the plasma system in the 1930's that saved so many lives in WWII, Korea, Vietnam and in the Middle East now.
During the War of Northern Aggression most of the nurses were nuns.

Even if you are not Catholic, this is eye opening:

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no hospitals. Today, one out of five people in this country receive their medical care at a Catholic hospital.

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no schools. Today, the Catholic Church teaches 3 million students a day, in its more than 250 Catholic Colleges and Universities, in its more than 1200 Catholic High Schools and its more than 5000 Catholic grade schools.

Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters and educates more people than any other organization in the world.

The new Obama Health Mandate could end all this and the taxpayers would have to make up the loss.

Also, all Catholic adoption services will come to an end... a human disaster.

There are more than 77 million Catholics in this country. It takes an estimated 50 million Catholic votes to elect a president.

I am asking all of you to go to the polls in 2016 and be united in replacing all Senators and Reps with someone who will respect the Catholic Church, all Christians, and all Religions with perhaps the exception of Islam.
Mr. President, you said, "The USA is not a Christian Nation". You are wrong - we are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to worship and practice freely... something that Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America .... Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital, heard a Muslim orchestra, seen a Muslim band march in a parade, know of a Muslim charity, ever seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scout, or ever seen a Muslim Candy Striper volunteering in a hospital?
Have you ever seen a Muslim do much of anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?


PLEASE DON'T KEEP THIS PLEASE SEND IT OUT TO YOUR ENTIRE EMAIL LIST.

Let's circulate this to as many as possible. And remember the elections coming up in 2016!

One more note..... in every church or synagogue, I have ever been in, in the United States, I have always seen an American flag.
No mosque in the United States displays an American flag!

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    jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with you on principal but I do not know how you could substantiate some of the things you stated. How can you say there were no hospitals or schools before the Catholic church was founded. And can you tell us just when the Catholic church was founded since the Catholic church claims that it was founded by Christ himself and peter was the first pope.
    This is a matter of History not religion.
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
    I agree with you on principal but I do not know how you could substantiate some of the things you stated. How can you say there were no hospitals or schools before the Catholic church was founded. And can you tell us just when the Catholic church was founded since the Catholic church claims that it was founded by Christ himself and peter was the first pope.
    This is a matter of History not religion.
    Can you disprove it?[?]
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    Franz?Franz? Member Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, but the Catholic Church has some housecleaning of its own to do before asking anything of anyone. Might begin by dropping all those contracts to import Mudslime future Democrats & welfare recipients.

    wsj.com
    Meet Planned Parenthood's Tim Kaine
    William McGurn
    Oct. 3, 2016 7:26 p.m. ET

    In his classic "Brideshead Revisited," Evelyn Waugh famously bemoans what he calls "the age of Hooper."

    The reference is to Lieutenant Hooper, the hapless junior officer who appears at the novel's beginning and end. Though a bit character, he plays an indispensable role. In his unquestioning embrace of the dominant pieties of his day, Hooper is a stand-in for the vapidity of the society Waugh saw emerging from the rubble of World War II.

    Tim Kaine is our Hooper.

    When he walks onstage Tuesday night for this year's vice-presidential debate, the junior senator from Virginia will carry with him a r?sum? that shouts respectability. By all accounts, he is affable. And he boasts all the amulets of modern diversity-fluency in Spanish, a stint as a Jesuit volunteer in Honduras-needed to mitigate the otherwise glaring liability of white maleness.

    In sum, Mr. Kaine is a garden variety Catholic Democrat of the early 21st century. In this capacity, the orthodoxies that now define his party and might once have disturbed a practicing Catholic bother him not at all. These include abortion on demand, underwritten with taxpayer dollars.

    In some ways Mr. Kaine's rise represents the yielding of the old pro-choice Catholic Democrat represented by Mario Cuomo-"I am not implying that we should stand by and pretend indifference to whether a woman takes a pregnancy to its conclusion or aborts it" said he at Notre Dame in 1984-to the brave new world where son Andrew Cuomo says that those who oppose abortion "have no place in the state of New York." Whatever else this is, it marks a comedown from the high hopes of liberal American Catholicism in those heady days before JFK became the first Catholic president.

    Those were the years when Paul Blanshard could write a best seller arguing Catholicism was fundamentally incompatible with America. And ultimately find himself answered by Jesuit John Courtney Murray, whose own book-"We Hold These Truths"-argued that Catholicism offered America a firmer philosophical grounding for the self-evident truths about God and man that undergird the American understanding of freedom.

    These many years later, Mr. Kaine has proved both men wrong. Blanshard could hardly object to a Catholic who campaigns on the proposition that his faith is so personal it will never influence his political positions. JFK at least promised those preachers in Houston he'd resign in the event of a clash between the two. As for Father Murray's hopes of leavening the American experiment, Mr. Kaine's recent assurance on same-sex marriage-the church, he says, will eventually come 'round to the Democratic Party's view-reflects the Hillary Clinton principle that religious conviction must yield when it collides with secular dogma.

    In this sense, Mr. Kaine might be best understood as the byproduct of a decadeslong effort by liberal Catholicism to make the world safe for pro-choice Catholic Democrats. This endeavor has been a major public enterprise of institutions such as Georgetown and Notre Dame. It has also been successful.

    Ah, but Mr. Kaine protests! He is not pro-choice; he is "personally opposed."

    But what can this mean? For Mr. Kaine, it meant a giant evolution once he reached the Senate. There he opposed limits he once supported as governor, fighting efforts to cut off tax dollars for Planned Parenthood, voting against a 20-week abortion ban, and co-sponsoring legislation aimed at nullifying state laws limiting abortion. Now he is running on a ticket committed to overturning the Hyde amendment's restrictions on federal funding. Small wonder both Planned Parenthood and Naral Pro-Choice America now deem his voting record 100% pro-choice.

    In short, the reason Mr. Kaine's "personally opposed" position is no obstacle to a slot on the Democratic national ticket is because, much like Barack Obama's original claim that he believed marriage was between a man and a woman, everyone understands that has no meaning.

    Here's a test: Put politics and policy aside. When do those who proclaim themselves "personally opposed" ever speak about the violence to the most defenseless among us? Or question a definition of compassion that is reduced to showing women with an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy the cold front door of an abortion clinic?

    Has Mr. Kaine ever raised his voice to say he dissents from a worldview in which one life can be taken if it is deemed inconvenient to another's? To the contrary, Mr. Kaine is that new model of Catholic politician who believes it is the church that must take its creed from the secular culture.

    How humdrum and disenchanting. Back in the 1950s and 1960s, the liberal promise was that an American Catholicism coming into its own would help rescue the world's most hopeful experiment in liberal democracy from the emerging excesses of materialism, relativism and militant secularism. This new birth of freedom would be led by a new generation of modern Murrays and Tocquevilles.

    Instead, we got Tim Kaine.

    Write to mcgurn@wsj.com.


    One comment:
    The problem is yet another group of elites, namely the Bishops and Cardinals of our Catholic leadership. Sold their soul to have a seat at the table of secular power and have been bed with liberals since the New Deal.


    Take the late Cardinal Bernardin's "seamless garment." The out he gave liberals by saying that opposition to abortion was only allowable if you embraced the entire liberal wish list of social welfare spending.


    What is being allowed is liberal politicians to call themselves Catholic yet violate a fundamental prohibition of the Catholic Church. And, what are our elites in the church doing? Looking the other way when they should be denying these so-called Catholics the holy Sacraments such as Communion.
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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I really don't care what the Catholic Church does, but am tired of funding it and all other churches that are funded by tax free money.

    If you want to support the church, any church, more power to you. Do it with after tax money.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I really don't care what the Catholic Church does, but am tired of funding it and all other churches that are funded by tax free money.

    If you want to support the church, any church, more power to you. Do it with after tax money.
    You just made a pact with the Devil![:(]
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    pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    Caesar is no friend to the Church, and never has been.
    Are you a friend of the Church?[?]
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