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7 things I already no about u if you vote 4 trump
rambo rebel
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don't know who this sem guy is but it was a C&P on CL;
If You Tell Me You Are Supporting Trump, I Already Know Seven Things About You
By SemDem
Tell me you are conservative. Tell me you are Christian. Tell me you are Republican. Tell me any of these things, and I won't make too many assumptions about you. Sure, I may assume you go to church every Sunday, eat red meat, and get most of your news from Fox and Friends, but beyond that, I will withhold judgment on the kind of person you are until I get to know you. In fact, as a Southern white male veteran who lives in a very rural area, most of the people in my circles are of the right-leaning variety. I can attest that most people are fairly decent when you get to know them.
This equation changes when you tell me unequivocally that you are voting for Trump. Instantly, I know there are certain things about you and your character that I can assume that I wouldn't if you told me you supported any other GOP candidate. Ain't none of them good.
Tell me you are a strong Trump supporter, then you are telling me:
1. You want to be ruled, not governed.
The single trait that predicts the Trump supporter has nothing to do with race, income, or education. A researcher at the University of Massachusetts found that the top predictor of whether a voter supports Trump is his or her proclivity towards authoritarianism.
Authoritarians obey. They rally to and follow strong leaders. And they respond aggressively to outsiders, especially when they feel threatened. From pledging to "make America great again" by building a wall on the border to promising to close mosques and ban Muslims from visiting the United States, Trump is playing directly to authoritarian inclinations.
So spare me your lectures about market freedoms or any constitutional rights you claim to hold dear. You want a dictator in the style of Putin, which pretty much makes you anti-American.
2. You have no class.
Seriously. You don't. I'm sorry. I tried to revisit this one several times but I don't know how to sugar-coat it.
It is NOT OKAY that Trump mocked a disabled person. If Hillary did that, it would be a deal-breaker for me. I'd go third-party, or write in my own name. I have standards. You apparently don't. Some people try to justify this by saying Trump didn't really do it. Except he really did, and it was awful.
No one even tries to defend Donald Trump mocking POWs, because he said it loud and clear: "I like people who weren't captured". It was that insult to John McCain that I thought would have killed his chances within the GOP ranks, since they claim to be pro-veteran. I grossly overestimated their character. By the time we get around to the part about Trump lusting after his own damn daughter or justifying statutory rape, I have already given up on you as a decent person.
And please. Don't tell me that you didn't know about any of this. You know. You just don't care. Hence, my statement that you don't have class.
3. You are definitely not someone to do business with.
Yes, all politicians lie, but Trump is obscene with his falsehoods. He says whatever he feels like to whatever crowd he is speaking to, and then will deny ever saying it. I am not okay with someone who lies to me constantly. If you are, I have to wonder: would you fudge the numbers? If you caught someone on your team doing something unethical, would you be okay with that?
I already know that integrity is not high on your list. Furthermore, you clearly have no trouble with someone who has a long history of fraudulent business practices. Having a bumper sticker on your truck for any other conservative wouldn't be a problem for me--but Trump?
You might do good work, but this is a risk I would not take.
4. You are either a racist, or at best, have no problem with racism.
Trump threw out all the dog whistles and fully embraced the alt-right movement. He led the campaign to de-legitimize Obama's presidency. He constantly complains that black Americans are violent and stated that Mexican immigrants bring "crime" and are "rapists." He demanded that any judge who tries him be white! He retweets from handles like "@WhiteGenocideTM," and goes to anti-Semitic websites for material to attack his opponents.
Your embrace of this kind of hate makes me wonder what things you say about my family behind my back. Going back to #3, if I was to hire you, you would be expected to work with people who don't share your ethnic background or religion, and that might be a problem. Which brings me to #5.
5. You have an issue with women.
Trump has brought a level of vulgarity that we have never before seen in national politics. From his attack on Megyn Kelly, to insulting Rosie O'Donnell twice in national debates, to bragging about his genitalia on television in front of millions, to his suggestion that Hillary and Carly Fiorina are too ugly to be president. Anyone who supports a man who doesn't think twice about calling women "pigs" or "dogs" is not someone I want to deal with.
I can say in all honesty that if it was the Democratic candidate who kept bragging about his sexual dominance and ranked all women he met by their looks, that person would not get my vote. I don't give a damn who I think he might put on the Supreme Court. (And frankly, I wouldn't trust him even if he claimed to share my party.) You see, I have children. I can't very well raise them with a message of self-respect and decency if I overthrow my principles just because he decided to put a "D" after his name. Demanding that a man treat women with a basic level of respect is a pretty low bar. I have a problem with someone who can't even meet that, along with this person's supporters.
6. You aren't really Christian.
Sure, tell me you are. But if you read Scripture, it's pretty clear on this. (Or if you can't be bothered, there's always youtube). Trump, a man who refuses the fundamental tenet of asking God's forgiveness, is the anti-thesis for everything Christianity is. As Christian author Philip Yancey says:
I am staggered that so many conservative or evangelical Christians would see a man who is a bully, who made his money by casinos, who has had several wives and several affairs, that they would somehow paint him as a hero, as someone that we could stand behind.
And now you find out that Trump, the top of the GOP ticket, sent you instructions at 3am to go watch a sex tape with a former Miss Universe who insulted him. And no, of course there is no sex tape. He lied about that too. (As it turns out, there was a sex tape that was uncovered, but it was a 2000 Playboy soft-core porn that starred Donald Trump!) Your candidate.
7. You don't believe in the Constitution
For eight years I have listened to your rabid rantings on how Obama doesn't follow the Constitution. Yet you support a man who said the US government should shut down mosques, curb our First Amendment rights, and forego due process on people he doesn't like. These protections are enshrined in our Bill of Rights, and you want to give them up. Trump also said he wants to end birthright citizenship, which is also in the Constitution. Maybe Mr. Khan should have made more copies for Trump's supporters.
That's the thing that really bothers me, though. I respect people who hold convictions, even if they are different than mine, but Trump supporters don't really believe in anything. They are authoritarian-prone sheep who will justify anything Trump says or does. Unfortunately, once you decide to sell your soul, there is no limit to how low you will go. Kimmel proved this in a bit that was both funny and horrible. He had someone ask Trump supporters on the street about the surprises on Trump's fictitious tax returns. Trump supporters vigorously defended everything they thought he did--writing off his wives as entertainment expenses, buying Putin a tiger, donating large sums of money to Jared Fogle--nothing they could come up with remotely bothered any of them.
Now, I will always be nice, but I won't respect you. How could I? Suffice it to say, if you tell me you are in the tank for Trump, please end your conversation there. I already know everything I need to know about you.
And good day, sir.
my reply
title; And I know one thing about both candidates .. (Zombieland)
we are FVCKED either way we go. On the one hand we have Trump,
the narcissistic unknown as to what would transpire under his presidency
and on the other hand Hillery, a narcissistic known.
we don't really know what Trump will be like, maybe a hitler like the chicken
littles of the world claim, or just maybe he won't be and will get nothing done
or he get's a few of the things done that he promises.
Then we have Hillery who we know is a total hitler when the cameras aren't
on her and we know she won't have a problem taking us further into debt, and
we know she has little regard for half of us "deplorables". we know she hates
anybody who's not a progressive and she detests Christians, gun owners,
right to life people, cops, and our on military.
sorry, but the "known" Hillery scares the hell out of most sane people and makes
us unwilling supporters of the unknown Trump.
so claiming to know 7 things about Trump supporters is flat out Bull chit for
the most part.
so what if white racists vote Trump?
BLM and black panthers, and anarchists are voting for Hillery.
doesn't make any of us EITHER of those things.
and if you think it does then my friend you are admitting to being a atheist anarchist
who wants to see dead cops in the street and dead babies in the dumpster.
our choices this time around are between the devil and jim jones - God help us.
but I choose to try the unknown Trump because it can't (probably) be worse than
the known Hillery.
the best place to be these days is on your knees.
If You Tell Me You Are Supporting Trump, I Already Know Seven Things About You
By SemDem
Tell me you are conservative. Tell me you are Christian. Tell me you are Republican. Tell me any of these things, and I won't make too many assumptions about you. Sure, I may assume you go to church every Sunday, eat red meat, and get most of your news from Fox and Friends, but beyond that, I will withhold judgment on the kind of person you are until I get to know you. In fact, as a Southern white male veteran who lives in a very rural area, most of the people in my circles are of the right-leaning variety. I can attest that most people are fairly decent when you get to know them.
This equation changes when you tell me unequivocally that you are voting for Trump. Instantly, I know there are certain things about you and your character that I can assume that I wouldn't if you told me you supported any other GOP candidate. Ain't none of them good.
Tell me you are a strong Trump supporter, then you are telling me:
1. You want to be ruled, not governed.
The single trait that predicts the Trump supporter has nothing to do with race, income, or education. A researcher at the University of Massachusetts found that the top predictor of whether a voter supports Trump is his or her proclivity towards authoritarianism.
Authoritarians obey. They rally to and follow strong leaders. And they respond aggressively to outsiders, especially when they feel threatened. From pledging to "make America great again" by building a wall on the border to promising to close mosques and ban Muslims from visiting the United States, Trump is playing directly to authoritarian inclinations.
So spare me your lectures about market freedoms or any constitutional rights you claim to hold dear. You want a dictator in the style of Putin, which pretty much makes you anti-American.
2. You have no class.
Seriously. You don't. I'm sorry. I tried to revisit this one several times but I don't know how to sugar-coat it.
It is NOT OKAY that Trump mocked a disabled person. If Hillary did that, it would be a deal-breaker for me. I'd go third-party, or write in my own name. I have standards. You apparently don't. Some people try to justify this by saying Trump didn't really do it. Except he really did, and it was awful.
No one even tries to defend Donald Trump mocking POWs, because he said it loud and clear: "I like people who weren't captured". It was that insult to John McCain that I thought would have killed his chances within the GOP ranks, since they claim to be pro-veteran. I grossly overestimated their character. By the time we get around to the part about Trump lusting after his own damn daughter or justifying statutory rape, I have already given up on you as a decent person.
And please. Don't tell me that you didn't know about any of this. You know. You just don't care. Hence, my statement that you don't have class.
3. You are definitely not someone to do business with.
Yes, all politicians lie, but Trump is obscene with his falsehoods. He says whatever he feels like to whatever crowd he is speaking to, and then will deny ever saying it. I am not okay with someone who lies to me constantly. If you are, I have to wonder: would you fudge the numbers? If you caught someone on your team doing something unethical, would you be okay with that?
I already know that integrity is not high on your list. Furthermore, you clearly have no trouble with someone who has a long history of fraudulent business practices. Having a bumper sticker on your truck for any other conservative wouldn't be a problem for me--but Trump?
You might do good work, but this is a risk I would not take.
4. You are either a racist, or at best, have no problem with racism.
Trump threw out all the dog whistles and fully embraced the alt-right movement. He led the campaign to de-legitimize Obama's presidency. He constantly complains that black Americans are violent and stated that Mexican immigrants bring "crime" and are "rapists." He demanded that any judge who tries him be white! He retweets from handles like "@WhiteGenocideTM," and goes to anti-Semitic websites for material to attack his opponents.
Your embrace of this kind of hate makes me wonder what things you say about my family behind my back. Going back to #3, if I was to hire you, you would be expected to work with people who don't share your ethnic background or religion, and that might be a problem. Which brings me to #5.
5. You have an issue with women.
Trump has brought a level of vulgarity that we have never before seen in national politics. From his attack on Megyn Kelly, to insulting Rosie O'Donnell twice in national debates, to bragging about his genitalia on television in front of millions, to his suggestion that Hillary and Carly Fiorina are too ugly to be president. Anyone who supports a man who doesn't think twice about calling women "pigs" or "dogs" is not someone I want to deal with.
I can say in all honesty that if it was the Democratic candidate who kept bragging about his sexual dominance and ranked all women he met by their looks, that person would not get my vote. I don't give a damn who I think he might put on the Supreme Court. (And frankly, I wouldn't trust him even if he claimed to share my party.) You see, I have children. I can't very well raise them with a message of self-respect and decency if I overthrow my principles just because he decided to put a "D" after his name. Demanding that a man treat women with a basic level of respect is a pretty low bar. I have a problem with someone who can't even meet that, along with this person's supporters.
6. You aren't really Christian.
Sure, tell me you are. But if you read Scripture, it's pretty clear on this. (Or if you can't be bothered, there's always youtube). Trump, a man who refuses the fundamental tenet of asking God's forgiveness, is the anti-thesis for everything Christianity is. As Christian author Philip Yancey says:
I am staggered that so many conservative or evangelical Christians would see a man who is a bully, who made his money by casinos, who has had several wives and several affairs, that they would somehow paint him as a hero, as someone that we could stand behind.
And now you find out that Trump, the top of the GOP ticket, sent you instructions at 3am to go watch a sex tape with a former Miss Universe who insulted him. And no, of course there is no sex tape. He lied about that too. (As it turns out, there was a sex tape that was uncovered, but it was a 2000 Playboy soft-core porn that starred Donald Trump!) Your candidate.
7. You don't believe in the Constitution
For eight years I have listened to your rabid rantings on how Obama doesn't follow the Constitution. Yet you support a man who said the US government should shut down mosques, curb our First Amendment rights, and forego due process on people he doesn't like. These protections are enshrined in our Bill of Rights, and you want to give them up. Trump also said he wants to end birthright citizenship, which is also in the Constitution. Maybe Mr. Khan should have made more copies for Trump's supporters.
That's the thing that really bothers me, though. I respect people who hold convictions, even if they are different than mine, but Trump supporters don't really believe in anything. They are authoritarian-prone sheep who will justify anything Trump says or does. Unfortunately, once you decide to sell your soul, there is no limit to how low you will go. Kimmel proved this in a bit that was both funny and horrible. He had someone ask Trump supporters on the street about the surprises on Trump's fictitious tax returns. Trump supporters vigorously defended everything they thought he did--writing off his wives as entertainment expenses, buying Putin a tiger, donating large sums of money to Jared Fogle--nothing they could come up with remotely bothered any of them.
Now, I will always be nice, but I won't respect you. How could I? Suffice it to say, if you tell me you are in the tank for Trump, please end your conversation there. I already know everything I need to know about you.
And good day, sir.
my reply
title; And I know one thing about both candidates .. (Zombieland)
we are FVCKED either way we go. On the one hand we have Trump,
the narcissistic unknown as to what would transpire under his presidency
and on the other hand Hillery, a narcissistic known.
we don't really know what Trump will be like, maybe a hitler like the chicken
littles of the world claim, or just maybe he won't be and will get nothing done
or he get's a few of the things done that he promises.
Then we have Hillery who we know is a total hitler when the cameras aren't
on her and we know she won't have a problem taking us further into debt, and
we know she has little regard for half of us "deplorables". we know she hates
anybody who's not a progressive and she detests Christians, gun owners,
right to life people, cops, and our on military.
sorry, but the "known" Hillery scares the hell out of most sane people and makes
us unwilling supporters of the unknown Trump.
so claiming to know 7 things about Trump supporters is flat out Bull chit for
the most part.
so what if white racists vote Trump?
BLM and black panthers, and anarchists are voting for Hillery.
doesn't make any of us EITHER of those things.
and if you think it does then my friend you are admitting to being a atheist anarchist
who wants to see dead cops in the street and dead babies in the dumpster.
our choices this time around are between the devil and jim jones - God help us.
but I choose to try the unknown Trump because it can't (probably) be worse than
the known Hillery.
the best place to be these days is on your knees.
Comments
On Your Knees ?
or
Ben Dover ?
I am voting for Trump for one reason and one reason only.
He is THE ONLY ONE who can beat hillary, the only one. No 3rd party candidates, no nothing. Unless you want hillary Trump is the only choice. So swaller yer pride, hold yer nose and check the box next to Trump.
None of that matters to me, klintoon supporters can say whatever they wish.
I am voting for Trump for one reason and one reason only.
He is THE ONLY ONE who can beat hillary, the only one. No 3rd party candidates, no nothing. Unless you want hillary Trump is the only choice. So swaller yer pride, hold yer nose and check the box next to Trump.
As someone used to often say,"DAMN STRAIGHT"!!
I hope that I am never in this position again.
Neal
Damn, this is gonna strike some raw nerves.......
Why? It is obviously the rantings of an unhinged Hillary supporter.
I just think they are funny. These are the same folks who can't discuss foreign policy at any level higher than 'Bush Lied...People Died.' They cannot have a conversation concerning economics without going off on evil corporations and the 'Rich' in the first sentence. Any topic on firearms and the 2A with these people goes immediately into 'No one needs an assault-machine-gun-high-capacity-revolver' territory.
I doubt few will see this childish tirade as anything different.
Food for Thought This is a List of Clinton Clan associates who met untimely deaths ??
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many " friends " of the
Clintons .
1 - James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".
7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena , Arkansas , airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 - Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes".
33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberge r
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons !
I wonder what happens to their enemies? Hillary is reported to have said about Julian Assange " can't we just drone this guy?"
Bob Beckel lost his mind on live TV demanding that Special Operations be sent to assassinate Assange. Beckel said "illegally" shoot the son of a *. Assange's challenge of the Clinton's is deserving of death. Beckel is a typical liberal.
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I could care less who is on the Rep ticket.
Trinity +++
So -- that's a good reason to put 4 liberals on the supreme court?
There is one thing I can tell about you. You ain't no genius.
I am voting for Trump because I hate Hillary.
I could care less who is on the Rep ticket.
I have no love for either of them, but will vote for Trump because I, too, hate Hillary. (I wonder how many alphabet agencies will be looking up my backside after reading this)
Some of the ol' boys were gathered at the local coffee shop the other day discussing the election and the consensus seemed to be that while neither candidate was ideal, the one on the left was unthinkable. I explained to them that this election will be nothing more than an exercise in how to pick up a turd by the clean end.
He is the result of a privileged childhood and never truly having to face the consequences of his words or actions. We see the same thing with spoiled athletes who are also protected against the need to grow up.
Both he and Clinton are undeserving of respect, IMO, and consequently undeserving of my vote. It is impossible to make any judgement as to which would be a worse President, as it is impossible to believe anything either of them says.
The author may or may not be a Clinton stooge, but, for the most part, describes Trump properly. I cannot get on board with his judgement of Trump supporters because so many have been conditioned to believe the two-party cabal is our only choice.
Brad Steele
People fail to realize there is no sitting this one out. Hillary needs to be beaten and to vote in such a manner that is a protest then hillary will win.
You see sir the last two elections have proven to us that protest voting guarentees a dem win, it happened twice in a row.
I for one am sick and tired of hearing folks say "they both suck and I'm not voting for either one." Those of you who have decided to vote 3rd party or not vote at all gave us 8 years of obama, are you going to do it again?
You have only two choices. We know without a doubt hillarys plans and Trumps are questionable. You protest voters gave us obama, are you going to give us hillary too?
Let me ask you this Don, are you willing to have hillary as president?
People fail to realize there is no sitting this one out. Hillary needs to be beaten and to vote in such a manner that is a protest then hillary will win.
You see sir the last two elections have proven to us that protest voting guarentees a dem win, it happened twice in a row.
I for one am sick and tired of hearing folks say "they both suck and I'm not voting for either one." Those of you who have decided to vote 3rd party or not vote at all gave us 8 years of obama, are you going to do it again?
You have only two choices. We know without a doubt hillarys plans and Trumps are questionable. You protest voters gave us obama, are you going to give us hillary too?
Couple of things.
Firstly, McCain and Romney gave us Obama. If every third party vote had gone to either of them, Obama still would have won.
Secondly, I don't see any more or less danger in a Clinton Presidency over a Trump Presidency. They both want complete control of your life by the Federal Government. They both want to increase federal spending, provide child care, force maternity leave and family upon employers or taxpayers, etc.
If you really believe Trump is a good, decent and trustworthy man, vote for him.. If you do not, why would you think him any better than Hillary?
Brad Steele
I honestly don't think that Trump will be any worse, I have my reasons for wanting to puke at the very thought of hillary becoming elected and I am even further disgusted to the point of vomiting at those who are once again willing to allow a total ignorant monster in the White House just to prove a point.
I cannot fathom what is going to happen if hillary wins, all I see is furthering the agendas that obama has worked in, further destruction of freedoms, further erosion of foreign relations and sommuch more. obama is and was an enabler, he enabled the hippie generation, the racists, those who hate freedoms, those who truly hate The USA to become winners. His presidency has told these people that they can accomplish anything and allowing hillary to win furthers that. It needs to be stopped and stopped now.
Do you know that as a self employed small business owner my income tax bill on a $40,000 net income is over $11,000 for last year?! Do you know why that is?
I'll tell you why!
Because of every damn cry baby Republican that either voted 3rd party or voted for that piece of crap currently occupying the White House put in motion the affordable health care act. That affordable health car act PRICED ME OUT OF HEALTH INSURANCE AND NOW I HAVE A bleenING 15% ADDITIONAL INCOME TAX TO PAY BECAUSE OF IT!!!!
So yes, I blame every damn one of you who skipped out on the Republican party in the last two elections for that. If obama had not been elected I would have health insurance and no 15% Self Employment tax to pay.
Now here is a chance to get rid of it and the crybabys are once again protest vote and put another monster in the White House further guareteeing that the pain will continue.
I cannot afford to stay sef employed with hillary in office.
To all your protest voters, thanks a lot [:(!]
Please show me where McCain or Romney would have reduced or eliminated your 'self employment tax'. You are aware, are you not that this is simply Social Security and Medicare for the self employed.
My marginal rate was 39.5 last year. The 15% gets phased out before the 39.5 kick in, but there was nothing in what McCain or Romney offered that suggested any change then or by extension what we have now.
I don't get you comment, however, regarding 'ignorant monster'. The only one in the election cycle that has and continues to demonstrate wilful ignorance is Duh Donald. You may disagree with her and not trust her as I do, but no one can seriously call her ignorant.
Lastly, who do you think is going to pay for Trump's increase in Federal spending and fanciful cuts in taxes?
Brad Steele
oh and define what is racism, according to you? because racism in ww2 was evolution theories that claimed some were in fact subhuman (closer to the monkeys.)
I don't believe that, and neither does Trump. but Hillary does.
Please explain this. I'm making less money, half of what I made and my tax bill doubled. It doubled because of obama and the ACA.
Now, you know me well enough to know I will post personal info here, when I get home you want me to take pics of my returns for you amd thousands of others to see what the difference is with the ACA?
Why do we have th ACA? Because of people like you who allowed obama to be elected. It will only get worse with hillary and you smile knowing you will gladly help hillary win.
I don't care if Howard Stern runs under a rep ticket, anybody and I mean anybody gets my vote over hillary. Trump is the only one who can beat her, nobody else can. I will gladly take my chances with Trump over hillary.
You just don't understand me, I hate hillary with a passion. If rhe news announced she just stroked out and died I would celebrate. Hate is a strong word, I hate her and everything she stands for. Voting in a manner that would allow her to win, I would commit suicide before I vote for her.
Go Trump
Couple of things.
Firstly, McCain and Romney gave us Obama. If every third party vote had gone to either of them, Obama still would have won.
Secondly, I don't see any more or less danger in a Clinton Presidency over a Trump Presidency. They both want complete control of your life by the Federal Government. They both want to increase federal spending, provide child care, force maternity leave and family upon employers or taxpayers, etc.
If you really believe Trump is a good, decent and trustworthy man, vote for him.. If you do not, why would you think him any better than Hillary?
SUPREME COURT judges
In Romney's case, the problem was 4 million Christians/Evangelicals/Perfectionists who refused to vote for a Mormon/Moderate/Imperfect Candidate, sat at home, and worshipped at their own altar of My-Way-or-I-Won't-Play.
It worked out very well...
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Couple of things.
Firstly, McCain and Romney gave us Obama. If every third party vote had gone to either of them, Obama still would have won.
Secondly, I don't see any more or less danger in a Clinton Presidency over a Trump Presidency. They both want complete control of your life by the Federal Government. They both want to increase federal spending, provide child care, force maternity leave and family upon employers or taxpayers, etc.
If you really believe Trump is a good, decent and trustworthy man, vote for him.. If you do not, why would you think him any better than Hillary?
SUPREME COURT judges
So you believe Trump has hard and fast principles regarding such things as the 2nd Amendment, Small Government, Individual Liberties, etc.?
Brad Steele
this 15% is on top of the SS and Medicare. How does someone with a $40K net income after all deductions end up with a tax bill of $11K? I have never, never in all the years I've been 1099 have ever seen a tax bill that high. As the tax preparer explained this is the ACA biting me, my tax bill is double what it has ever been. When I worked for FPI in Kuwait I was making $175K annual income, only $90K of that was tax free so I paid taxes on $85K, my tax bill was just over $5K with no deductions.
Please explain this. I'm making less money, half of what I made and my tax bill doubled. It doubled because of obama and the ACA.
Now, you know me well enough to know I will post personal info here, when I get home you want me to take pics of my returns for you amd thousands of others to see what the difference is with the ACA?
Why do we have th ACA? Because of people like you who allowed obama to be elected. It will only get worse with hillary and you smile knowing you will gladly help hillary win.
I don't care if Howard Stern runs under a rep ticket, anybody and I mean anybody gets my vote over hillary. Trump is the only one who can beat her, nobody else can. I will gladly take my chances with Trump over hillary.
You just don't understand me, I hate hillary with a passion. If rhe news announced she just stroked out and died I would celebrate. Hate is a strong word, I hate her and everything she stands for. Voting in a manner that would allow her to win, I would commit suicide before I vote for her.
Go Trump
I don't need to see your 1040, BSR.
Mayhaps you should have your accountant review the attached link:
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/self-employment-tax-social-security-and-medicare-taxes#1
From the link:
What is Self-Employment Tax?
Self-employment tax is a tax consisting of Social Security and Medicare taxes primarily for individuals who work for themselves. It is similar to the Social Security and Medicare taxes withheld from the pay of most wage earners.
You figure self-employment tax (SE tax) yourself using Schedule SE (Form 1040). Social Security and Medicare taxes of most wage earners are figured by their employers. Also you can deduct the employer-equivalent portion of your SE tax in figuring your adjusted gross income. Wage earners cannot deduct Social Security and Medicare taxes.
FWIW, your tax bill did not double because of the ACA. Being self employed, you are paying the full 15%+ of the FICA/Medicare burden as compared to half of it as a wage earner, but that has nothing to do with the ACA.
Brad Steele
The plus side to Trump being elected is that there are so many REPUBLICANS that don't like him that they will work with the Democrats to prevent him from doing anything he wants. He will actually have to work with Congress to get things done and if he tries anything too shady they will impeach him which would put Pence in the office.
nuff said
Golly, Lonnie,
... You may disagree with her and not trust her as I do, ...
You "TRUST" Clinton????? Good Lord Don, I just cannot fathom the raw, blind, Denial you are operating under.