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This childishness is getting old.
Don McManus
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The mayor of London makes a perfectly logical statement and our President attacks him in a perfectly stupid manner on Twitter. Probably still butthurt after the mayor expressed his dislike of Trump's view of muslims during the campaign.
It has to sting just a little when the mayor of a city tells the press that he has better things to do than respond to the ill-informed tweets of the President.
I guess it is fairly na?ve to think a 70 year old man is capable of growing up, but I really hoped that he would. Hell, I still hope that he does.
These types of things are not a confidence boost.
It has to sting just a little when the mayor of a city tells the press that he has better things to do than respond to the ill-informed tweets of the President.
I guess it is fairly na?ve to think a 70 year old man is capable of growing up, but I really hoped that he would. Hell, I still hope that he does.
These types of things are not a confidence boost.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
Brad Steele
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Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
I agree
Me 2
He totally misquoted the muslim mayor. It is a hard row for me to hoe taking up for a muslim[V]
Trumpy needs to do a little logical thinking before he bashes. I think a more positive message would have made him and his office look much more mature.
The Mayor of London? You mean the Muslim that said recently that the people need to "get used" the attacks?
Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
The statement was that the people of London should not become alarmed by the increased armed police presence in the city following the attacks at the bridge.
Brad Steele
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Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by danielgage
I agree
Me 2
He totally misquoted the muslim mayor. It is a hard row for me to hoe taking up for a muslim[V]
Trumpy needs to do a little logical thinking before he bashes. I think a more positive message would have made him and his office look much more mature.
The mayor of London has made a number of questionable statements, and should be challenged by his constituents and the British government when he does. This type of crap is beneath the office of the Presidency even if Trump didn't misquote the man.
Brad Steele
was never a politician so he has for his life spoke his mind is my guess and use to being top dog of his empire so this is totally out of the norm being president
I think he should have some one filter his comments but I do not think its going to happen
in the mean time the left is gaining ground to impeach him and just having more fuel to the fire
I would be surprised if he just wakes up one day and says screw this I out of here
I do think in his heart and mind he wants to help America
"There is no reason to be alarmed by this.
Mayor Sadiq Khan
SURE no reason to be alarmed at all by what the police presence represents
alarmed by the police themselves = no
alarmed at why they are there = hell yes
quote:
Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!
Donald Trump
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html
Sadiq Khan: London mayor says being prepared for terror attacks 'part and parcel' of living in a major city
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
The Mayor of London? You mean the Muslim that said recently that the people need to "get used" the attacks?
Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
The Mayor of London? You mean the Muslim that said recently that the people need to "get used" the attacks?
Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
He said "Nothing to worry about". Reminds me of saying, Move along, nothing to see here.
http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/04/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-no-reason-to-be-alarmed-trump/
Another example of saying something wrong and then "double down".
part and parcel of the muslim drive to intimidate and counquer....move along, nothing to see here, police are here after to mop up the blood and guts...says a MUSLIM mayor.....get used to it...support u=ypur local mosque
Alpine is probably a lost cause, but you may not be.
The actual quote from the mayor is:
I?m not going to speculate as to how the police in New York should react. What I do know is part and parcel of living in a great global city is you gotta be prepared for these things, you gotta be vigilant, you gotta support the police doing an incredibly hard job, you gotta support the security services. And I think speculating, when you don?t know the facts, is unwise.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-donald-trump-jr-misquotes-london-mayor-saying-terror-attacks-part-of-living-in-london-20170322-htmlstory.html
He has said silly things like Trump's rhetoric is giving a boost to isis, etc. but to jump on the (I assume) deliberate twisting of his words in these instances makes no sense.
It doesn't make sense coming from us, and it makes even less sense coming from the Donalds Trump.
Brad Steele
drink the kool-aid all you want, trump was right there is plenty to worry about
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
The Mayor of London? You mean the Muslim that said recently that the people need to "get used" the attacks?
Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
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quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
part and parcel of the muslim drive to intimidate and counquer....move along, nothing to see here, police are here after to mop up the blood and guts...says a MUSLIM mayor.....get used to it...support u=ypur local mosque
Alpine is probably a lost cause, but you may not be.
The actual quote from the mayor is:
I?m not going to speculate as to how the police in New York should react. What I do know is part and parcel of living in a great global city is you gotta be prepared for these things, you gotta be vigilant, you gotta support the police doing an incredibly hard job, you gotta support the security services. And I think speculating, when you don?t know the facts, is unwise.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-donald-trump-jr-misquotes-london-mayor-saying-terror-attacks-part-of-living-in-london-20170322-htmlstory.html
He has said silly things like Trump's rhetoric is giving a boost to isis, etc. but to jump on the (I assume) deliberate twisting of his words in these instances makes no sense.
It doesn't make sense coming from us, and it makes even less sense coming from the Donalds Trump.
If being able to pick the winners and losers far in advance: I plead guilty.
I quite frankly could not care less about what The Donald has said, will say, and what he "Tweets".
As long as he gets done what he said he would do, I'm a happy camper.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
If this link is killed by the autocensor, do a search on youtube for
"London Mayor Sadiq Khan Before he was Mayor"
Trump
was never a politician so he has for his life spoke his mind is my guess and use to being top dog of his empire so this is totally out of the norm being president
I think he should have some one filter his comments but I do not think its going to happen
in the mean time the left is gaining ground to impeach him and just having more fuel to the fire
I would be surprised if he just wakes up one day and says screw this I out of here
I do think in his heart and mind he wants to help America
Presidents can't be impeached because someone doesn't like them or they say something some find disagreeable.
quote:Originally posted by Alpine
The Mayor of London? You mean the Muslim that said recently that the people need to "get used" the attacks?
Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
He said "Nothing to worry about". Reminds me of saying, Move along, nothing to see here.
OH, my fault, Mayor said "NO REASON TO BE ALARMED".
http://www.snopes.com/2017/06/04/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-no-reason-to-be-alarmed-trump/
Another example of saying something wrong and then "double down".
Yep, just another attack on British Citizens, NOT AT ALL ALARMING (If you're a Muslim)
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
sure does bring out the trump haters, msn-cnn took trumps words and twisted them against him claiming he took it out of text
drink the kool-aid all you want, trump was right there is plenty to worry about
What words did they twist ?
You and Serf are really starting to grate on my nerves (again). I've told you before. Stay in politics. Last warning.
I would think it more useful to research Khan's myriad ties and relationships with Islamic Extremists and Organizations.
That anyone would instead focus on a tweet from Trump seems a waste of time.
England is probably a lost cause and I doubt they will ever recover. The #12 most popular name for baby boy in England is Muhammad and #29 is Mohammed(taken from the British Office of National Statistics). And now they have a Muslim mayor. There's plenty of YouTube videos on how the Muslims in England interact with non Muslims and it's not good. Trump is correct that we better get a handle on it and I do agree with him that Europe's political correctness will be disastrous. Unfortunately we have so many of these kooks already here it's a matter of time before we get hit again. Hopefully they encounter some Americans who are carrying and have the mindset to put the scumbags in the dirt.
The very fact of Americans carrying , has them think about whom the attack!
The very fact of Americans carrying , has them think about whom the attack!
Most police in England are not armed.... They carry a whistle....
oooh SCARY.... "Stop or I'll blow my whistle... "
Notice they are not picking on Switzerland (who has a very strict immigration policy) and everyone must serve in the Armed forces...
Khan is a supporter of Sharia law, he's a terrorist sympathizer and the libtards in London will never vote him out because of their PC mentality. Trump use of twitter IMO sets him back, sometimes he is brilliant, most times he is his own worst enemy. He has become quite predictable and easy to bait for the libs.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^
quote:Originally posted by pwillie
The very fact of Americans carrying , has them think about whom the attack!
Most police in England are not armed.... They carry a whistle....
oooh SCARY.... "Stop or I'll blow my whistle... "
Notice they are not picking on Switzerland (who has a very strict immigration policy) and everyone must serve in the Armed forces...
....well said...[;)]
With all the things going on both in the US and around the world, I can't see any reason to focus on something as unimportant as this.
I would think it more useful to research Khan's myriad ties and relationships with Islamic Extremists and Organizations.
That anyone would instead focus on a tweet from Trump seems a waste of time.
I agree with your first statement, Dads3040. I would also would suggest our President would have been better served by insisting that the vetting process review and implementation were on track within his stated 90 - 120 days rather than wasting his time tweeting and fighting the suspension of his travel ban through the courts.
Khan's past is no more important in this little tit-for-tat than is Trump's. In this instance, Trump behaved like a child. I had hoped for better by this time.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
With all the things going on both in the US and around the world, I can't see any reason to focus on something as unimportant as this.
I would think it more useful to research Khan's myriad ties and relationships with Islamic Extremists and Organizations.
That anyone would instead focus on a tweet from Trump seems a waste of time.
I agree with your first statement, Dads3040. I would also would suggest our President would have been better served by insisting that the vetting process review and implementation were on track within his stated 90 - 120 days rather than wasting his time tweeting and fighting the suspension of his travel ban through the courts.
Khan's past is no more important in this little tit-for-tat than is Trump's. In this instance, Trump behaved like a child. I had hoped for better by this time.
Your focus on improving the vetting process would be more operative, if it weren't for the pesky fact that the authority to implement that enhanced process emanates from the same 8 US 1182 statutes that the 9th Circus and other courts say Trump cannot use because he is a poop. If you care to opine that any effort by Trump to restrict immigration and travel by process rather than moratorium would garner a different reception from the left and the courts, you are free to do so. I am not near that hopeful. Since the opinion from the 9th managed to wander aimlessly in Leftist Legal Lala Land without ever even mentioning 8 US 1182, I have a sneaking suspicion that absent a favorable ruling from the SCOTUS, or Congress growing a spine, any new process will meet the same fate as the moratorium. And most in the country will be as oblivious to the impact of that as they have to much of what has gone on.
Also complicating any effort to revise the vetting process is a little known and less discussed problem. After Hillary lost, Obama and his minions spent months changing positions that had been political appointees subject to immediate pink slips, to civil service status. Trump is surrounded by hostile staff, management, and all the opposition and mayhem they can create. Add in the slow walkign of his appointees that has been going on, and a serious problem related to the 'peaceful tansition of power' lurks about. A perfect illustration is 'Acting' Ambassador to the UK we heard praising Sadiq Khan. Lukens was appointed by CJ 3 days before his term ended. And Trump's appointee to be an ambassador is still languishing, waiting for the Senate to get around to it. If they can't manage to deal with a 'Who gives a F' position like ambassador to the UK, one wonders what they are doing with more important positions.
It is little discussed, because people are willing to be distracted from what the left hand is doing by a press that tells them the right hand must be watched. Especially when the right hand does something as earth-shatteringly terrible as tweet something objectionable. I watch it here in GB constantly. In the rest of the country it is even worse.
Finally, if you think the political leanings and affiliations of the mayor of one of the world's major cities and what that means to the overall extent of the problem we face aren't relevant because they are somehow in the 'past', I will leave you to your opinion. Anything more I might say wouldn't likely be helpful.
LOL
The Mayor of London? You mean the Muslim that said recently that the people need to "get used" the attacks?
Is that the idiot that made a "perfectly logical statement"?
Defending such trash is a dangerous stand.
quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1-fan
sure does bring out the trump haters, msn-cnn took trumps words and twisted them against him claiming he took it out of text
drink the kool-aid all you want, trump was right there is plenty to worry about
What words did they twist ?
You and Serf are really starting to grate on my nerves (again). I've told you before. Stay in politics. Last warning.
You've never told me to stay in politics.
But if it is your desire that I not post here, I am not about to try to convince you otherwise.
As long as it is your forum, you get to make the rules.
Best of luck in your future endeavors!
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That's what he's told you before.[:D]
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Such comments as: "Donald Trumps ignorant view of Islam makes both of our countries less safe - it risks alienating main stream Muslims around the world and plays into the hands of extremists"
Khan appears to be making Trump the focus of London's problem with Islamist violence and murder, rather than his lackadaisical attitude towards security and continuation of failed liberal DEMOCRAT solutions that just don't work.
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
With all the things going on both in the US and around the world, I can't see any reason to focus on something as unimportant as this.
I would think it more useful to research Khan's myriad ties and relationships with Islamic Extremists and Organizations.
That anyone would instead focus on a tweet from Trump seems a waste of time.
I agree with your first statement, Dads3040. I would also would suggest our President would have been better served by insisting that the vetting process review and implementation were on track within his stated 90 - 120 days rather than wasting his time tweeting and fighting the suspension of his travel ban through the courts.
Khan's past is no more important in this little tit-for-tat than is Trump's. In this instance, Trump behaved like a child. I had hoped for better by this time.
Your focus on improving the vetting process would be more operative, if it weren't for the pesky fact that the authority to implement that enhanced process emanates from the same 8 US 1182 statutes that the 9th Circus and other courts say Trump cannot use because he is a poop. If you care to opine that any effort by Trump to restrict immigration and travel by process rather than moratorium would garner a different reception from the left and the courts, you are free to do so. I am not near that hopeful. Since the opinion from the 9th managed to wander aimlessly in Leftist Legal Lala Land without ever even mentioning 8 US 1182, I have a sneaking suspicion that absent a favorable ruling from the SCOTUS, or Congress growing a spine, any new process will meet the same fate as the moratorium. And most in the country will be as oblivious to the impact of that as they have to much of what has gone on.
Also complicating any effort to revise the vetting process is a little known and less discussed problem. After Hillary lost, Obama and his minions spent months changing positions that had been political appointees subject to immediate pink slips, to civil service status. Trump is surrounded by hostile staff, management, and all the opposition and mayhem they can create. Add in the slow walkign of his appointees that has been going on, and a serious problem related to the 'peaceful tansition of power' lurks about. A perfect illustration is 'Acting' Ambassador to the UK we heard praising Sadiq Khan. Lukens was appointed by CJ 3 days before his term ended. And Trump's appointee to be an ambassador is still languishing, waiting for the Senate to get around to it. If they can't manage to deal with a 'Who gives a F' position like ambassador to the UK, one wonders what they are doing with more important positions.
It is little discussed, because people are willing to be distracted from what the left hand is doing by a press that tells them the right hand must be watched. Especially when the right hand does something as earth-shatteringly terrible as tweet something objectionable. I watch it here in GB constantly. In the rest of the country it is even worse.
Finally, if you think the political leanings and affiliations of the mayor of one of the world's major cities and what that means to the overall extent of the problem we face aren't relevant because they are somehow in the 'past', I will leave you to your opinion. Anything more I might say wouldn't likely be helpful.
You know as well as I do that the courts have ruled based upon (what I believe to be) the false premise that Trump's campaign rhetoric should be taken into account when reviewing the ban in that the rhetoric suggests this is a ban upon a religion and not a region. Their decisions have nothing to do with any statute, merely perception of the ban.
Likewise, their rulings have nothing to do with any future vetting process. The argument could be made that the decisions suggest the vetting would have to be universal and not targeted to any specific country, but given the citizenship of most of the recent terrorist attackers, we are at that point anyway. The argument that you have to have the ban in place before you can begin the review and implementation of enhanced vetting is a dodge, and frankly I am surprised that you have fallen into that trap.
Also, please don't suggest that I have said anything in general about the positions and leaning of the Mayor of London. I have confined my comments to this specific incident where he was right and our President was wrong and behaved like a child. I have little vested in what the mayor of London has said or will say. In general, he seems to be a man that has allegiances or sympathies that may be at odds with what is needed to put down what he calls a distorted view of islam, but I was addressing Trump's actions, not his.
I have a vested interest and significant concern about what my President is saying and will say. As noted previously, I still hope that he grows the hell up, but this hope is fading due to his words, not any spin from the left. After all, he is creating the distractions they are exploiting.
Edit:
All that said, Mayor Khan has now come out against Trump's planned but not yet scheduled State visit to England as was discussed with PM May last month.
Now he is behaving like a child.
Brad Steele