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Obamacare Survives! Republicans Defeated!

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 2017 in Politics
This only shows how divide and polarized and ineffective the country has become under our form of government. This country once was a creditor nation and if not running a balance budget at least it was not broke and torn apart like it is now! We are the largest debtor nation in the world! We have been sold out.

The only thing Trump can do now is make war & wag the dog in N.Korea. He said he will let Obamacare implode? What a joke!

serf

http://time.com/4877917/trump-obamacare-survives/

After seven years of campaign promises, billions of dollars raised, and dozens of show votes, the Republican dream of repealing and replacing Obamacare appears to be dead. Ultimately it was Arizona Sen. John McCain who cast the decisive vote early Friday morning, joining Alaska's Lisa Murkowski and Maine's Susan Collins in voting against the "skinny repeal" measure which would have kept the GOP's hopes alive. The defeat left the GOP and the President with almost nothing to show legislatively from the first six months of Republican control. Now the party is moving on to tax reform, where despite months of work, there is still no clear outline for the GOP plan.

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  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    trump didn,t get hurt by the rep,s failing to pass it, he held up his end by telling them get it to his desk and he would sing it.the rep,s will catch hell for it, but still the dem,s own it and when it goes belly up they with catch the larger hell. for those who have and pay for their own health care will not be hurt by the fall of obomacare. mr myopic.
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    trump didn,t get hurt by the rep,s failing to pass it, he held up his end by telling them get it to his desk and he would sing it.the rep,s will catch hell for it, but still the dem,s own it and when it goes belly up they with catch the larger hell. for those who have and pay for their own health care will not be hurt by the fall of obomacare. mr myopic.


    We did not have this problem back in 50's or early 60's and most adults with children where covered by Health Insurance by employers.We also had Charity hospitals helping the poor. So what happen to cause this great calamity?

    When LBJ in 1964 pulled all the silver out of our currency to fund The Vietnam war! Which we lost to the communist.


    And allowing foreign immigration & illegals along with accepting dual citizenship and bring in China as a so called free trade policy under Nixon who was a staunch anti communist in 1972.

    Then The oil cartels saw the light after Nixon declared gold could no longer be traded for imports! And oil triple in price overnight.



    Then More Free trade deals while our Heavy industry manufacturing jobs disappeared only to reappear overseas with lower wages for The rich Elites after making deals and hiding their profits in tax havens!

    Plus two Iraq Wars with Afghanistan and the clincher 9/11 with Those so called Patriot Acts I &II for our New police state could form & spy on US Citizens in the name of peace and security.All of these actions cause our country to become what it is today believe it or not.



    So Republicans had as much to do with our downfall as the Democrats.
    Soon the petrol dollar will fail and all of us with it. Then The NWO will rise up to save the day with more enslavement.
    serf
  • wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've long thought the dem's and the repub's were 2 sides of the same coin. We have the visual differences for public consumption but they both do the same thing in the end, just a different schickt. The general public is simply too stupid to realize how stupid they are.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Republicans were not defeated, they quit just like they were going to do all along. The swamp is deep and full of slime. This was predicted when Trump was nominated for POTUS. The ELITES rule America now, you and your interests as an American citizen and tax paying working man are far at the bottom of the list of concerns for your government.

    McCain can now go home and die a national hero for his service in Vietnam and a true big government Progressive and traitor to the ideals of our founding Fathers and the Constitution.
  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,052 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    when the rep,s knew oboma would veto their bill they all voted for it and now that trump said he would sing it their true colors were shown. all the rinio,s need to be replaced in 2018, the dem,s vote in a block and the rep,s need to get their act together and do the same. the rep,s hold the house-senete and yet can,t pass any thing the realy matters. mr myopic.
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Barzillia
    quote:Originally posted by eastbank
    when the rep,s knew oboma would veto their bill they all voted for it and now that trump said he would sing it their true colors were shown. all the rinio,s need to be replaced in 2018, the dem,s vote in a block and the rep,s need to get their act together and do the same. the rep,s hold the house-senete and yet can,t pass any thing the realy matters. mr myopic.



    If the senators were catering to their base, why is it different than when POTUS does the same ? Is he slime and a RINO as well ?

    But if they were doing what they felt to be the right thing to do, why do you fault them ?

    Is it possible at all that some may have put country above party ?


    It's a United Nations Mandate and Obama did it when he had the chance. It's also harder to repeal a universal give away. At least Social security is paid for by the recipient.

    Not so for the critically ill/sick people in dire need. The State must step in preserve their life at all cost.

    So Let the rich pay for it now for the middle class has evaporated here in America. With A.I. Technology in full swing with no jobs for humans now give the poor basic rights with privileges of shelter,food,clothing and transportation in The NWO.

    There are going to be plenty more here in The USA!] Disarm any radicals that get in the way too! Mark Zuckerberg was right give all unemployed people a free salary, while congress is in a giving mood! It's going to be a Utopian police state society soon! Bet on it!

    Voting for representatives to represent you is a lie for they know what is best for you from cradle to grave. Ban war but control the population first is the one thing they wont ever tell you however!

    In other words it's not going to work until there is a huge reduction of people killed in a genocidal war first.

    serf

    http://www.who.int/universal_health_coverage/un_resolution/en/

    United Nations resolution on universal health coverage

    Global support for universal health coverage is gathering momentum, with the unanimous adoption of a resolution in the United Nations General Assembly that emphasizes health as an essential element of international development.

    The resolution, adopted on 12 December 2012, urges governments to move towards providing all people with access to affordable, quality health-care services.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GOP is useless like the Dems

    Time for a full house cleaning
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These people spend a lot of money to get elected and re-elected if we the people would show them the door we could perhaps get some service from them
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mogley98
    These people spend a lot of money to get elected and re-elected if we the people would show them the door we could perhaps get some service from them


    It's all about power and influence and how much you can buy! The Supreme Court ruled it legal to lobby and give millions to reelections with Super- Pacs and The Sheple blindly follow the two stupid parties and call it Democracy!

    serf
    https://www.thenation.com/article/supreme-court-more-elections-sale/

    In his famous speech at Gettysburg during the War of Northern Aggression , Abraham Lincoln talked about America as a country ?of the people, by the people and for the people.? Today, as a result of the Supreme Court?s refusal to reconsider its decision in Citizens United, we are rapidly moving toward a nation of the super-rich, by the super-rich and for the super-rich.
  • jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Serf. It is very evident that you know nothing about economics. The only thing that will bring this country back to financial stability is economic growth. Trump is making great strides on that now and has been since he was elected. Go study some. Then talk. It's all about jobs, energy production,regulation and taxes. You are insulting yourself with these posts. Sounds like a beer joint conversation.
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