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Interesting Take on Las Vegas Shooting 'Motive'

Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
edited October 2017 in Politics
An interesting article by Mark Steyn discussing an email he received from a man who is part of a geopolitical think tank in London concerning the possible motivation for the Las Vegas shooter. The link to the full article is below. This quote is the gist.
quote:Because this gentleman did not simply fail to leave behind a motive; He took substantial trouble to ensure that no motive could be found - or attributed to him. All of which can lead us to only one conclusion:

This man wished to telegraph to America in graphic form the hard irrefutable evidence that guns and gun ownership and the ease of gun purchase in America are an evil and must be controlled. On that hypothesis everything now makes sense. And it must be said his concept has a certain demented genius.
https://www.steynonline.com/8162/theory-of-the-case

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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    london better worry about their own decline in islam instead of presenting a political view here that is mostly nonsense
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    US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was going to pick the email apart piece by piece - but I got bored with the task - and found way too many items to pick apart.

    Some easy ones -

    spending $100,000 on 42 guns averages at $2,380 per gun. That is a pretty nice collection. Evidently the expensive ones were still at home.

    "illegal modifications" - Please identify those modifications

    "virtual armoury (love that British spelling) of unprecedented scope and scale" - What can I say? Want to see mine? [:D]


    So I will just leave it at this -

    Yeah, that is what I want to hear "gun control" advice from a person living in London, England. [;)]

    I suppose that would be similar to me giving advice on the proper way to raise camels. HINT: I have no idea on any aspect of how to raise a camel.
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    AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,986 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think they need to be reminded of what we did to them the last time they came for our guns [xx(]
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    CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Or..... The federal government was involved. I don't Believe absolutely no motive is there.

    I can't believe a person does a false flag attack on his own initiative because he believes gun violence I out of control. We know every past shooting is seen as a potential event for a gun ban.
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    TerantTerant Member Posts: 80
    edited November -1
    If it wasn't for "our" guns donated to them in the 1940's, they'd be speaking German. What a wonderful way to repay us. Oh well, they'll be speaking some Middle Eastern language soon and donating their wives to the nightly Muslime gangbang. Odd how history repeats itself to morons.
    A country with uncontrolled borders is not a country, but an uncontrolled region.
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    SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,182 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They, very well, may have his motive right. I think there is something else but, as of now, we don't know and likely never will.
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    fordsixfordsix Member Posts: 8,722
    edited November -1
    think tanks use mind altering drugs to expand on impossiblitys[:o)]
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    SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,182 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    think tanks use mind altering drugs to expand on impossiblitys[:o)]


    where do we join?
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    Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fun to read the comments from those who didn't read the article.

    Even better are those who managed to read the article and miss the point.

    Well done! [8D]
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    US Military GuyUS Military Guy Member Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
    Fun to read the comments from those who didn't read the article.

    Even better are those who managed to read the article and miss the point.

    Well done! [8D]


    Great!

    I read the article, but now I don't know, if I missed the point.

    What was the point?

    No, seriously, what was the point?
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didn't find the article hard to understand,...maybe I missed the point?![:0][:D]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks simple to me. The article is about what was the shooters motive and gave examples of how they arrived at their conclusion.

    Errors like "illegal modifications" didn't impact the reasons given as to the shooters motives.

    I'd say, w/o knowing, the articles opinion is reasonable and might be as good as any at this time.

    The persons location isn't important. Recently a theory about how the pyramids were built was developed by a man who'd never visited Egypt and the theory appears it will be proven as correct.
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    sxsnufsxsnuf Member Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It must be taxing to be such a pompous *, all day, every day!
    [:o)]
    Arrivederci gigi
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    JackBwrJackBwr Member Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At this point any hypothesis is worth a read and I suppose that scenario was plausible, but IMO, the think tank may have put too much thought into it. To pretend that he acted like a screenwriter to leave us with a murder mystery to solve is a bit of a stretch.

    The idea that he just felt like doing it with no intended moral to the story, (other than what European antis dream up) is just as plausible. To plan out something like this and not leave a clear motive/message behind for the world, could make no motive just as probable. Obviously there's no motive he was passionate enough about to let us know about. Which in itself drives everyone crazy because there is nothing to even attempt to understand.

    As Alfred said, "Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men, just want to watch the world burn."
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    Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by US Military Guy
    quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
    Fun to read the comments from those who didn't read the article.

    Even better are those who managed to read the article and miss the point.

    Well done! [8D]


    Great!

    I read the article, but now I don't know, if I missed the point.

    What was the point?

    No, seriously, what was the point?

    The point was to illustrate a possible explanation for why someone did what Paddock did in the manner he did it.

    Your journey into how much was spent on the 42 guns on average, and what a British analyst considers an 'armoury', or an 'illegal modification' is a wonderful trip through Minutia Lane, but ignores the possible answer provided by the author.

    Why bring 23 guns and a crapload of ammo into the hotel over several days? Wouldn't 5 or 10 have served just about any offensive or defensive purpose just as well? Maybe the guy was just not very practical. Or maybe he was showing how much hardware someone could sneak into a place with as much 'security' as a casino. That is one of the points the author was making.

    Why go to the ultimately fatal trouble of shooting a crapload of people, and not leave a trace of Why? Maybe he hated C/W music. Maybe Aldean cut him off on the freeway once. Maybe the author is right. It is hard to believe someone would do that for no reason.

    Whatever one thinks of the article, it might be helpful to think about how the conversation has progressed since the shooting, i.e. Guns-r-Bad. Maybe the author is on to something. Maybe he isn't. A thoughtful discussion of possibilities is unlikely to hurt anything.
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    Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,828 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    False flag by the Deep State. Time to wake up. Wakey wakey!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFVpbCfclxQ&t=4174s
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