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Republicans want to cut Medicare?

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2017 in Politics
The country taxes you more but cuts benefits on the back side of medicare while spending billions on young Hispanic illegals and waste billions at the Pentagon!

The Great society ain't so great anymore!No gold or silver to control the circulation of funny money! The Founding father's of this country knew how governments play the shell game in the past but Congress circumvented their rule of law with their own! Wake up!

What a joke the country has become! Time to burn down the ship to kill all the rats!


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/26/16526458/2018-senate-budget-explained

t?s possible this plan is cheap talk, that if the rubber hit the road and these policies were actually in danger of being enacted, some GOPers would defect and the plan wouldn?t pass. But simply as a piece of rhetoric, the budget is important. It suggests that basically every Republican in each chamber (the only senator opposed was Rand Paul, who wanted deeper cuts) is comfortable aligning himself or herself with an agenda that radically cuts the social safety net, for the poor but also retirees and the middle class more broadly.

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    Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,489 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bored of base-line budget blather.

    The goal should not just be cuts to growth, but actually delving into why medical costs are growing so ridiculously and empowering individuals, doctors and other providers to spend less on medical care. This would result in an organic reduction in spending evident at the end of the fiscal year when fewer dollars went out than were budgeted.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
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    serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    New Scares for the baby boomers for you have to cut where the meat is.Even The Democrats will allow some cuts after they get a better deal after Obama care fails.

    YOU will end up in one payer system if your job cannot supply the Health Insurance but you will be taxed on it as income however.

    The system is showing it's cracks and it's a house of cards anyway! The government pays less but you still get the benefits?? What a joke it has become here in America.

    serf

    Physicians, hospitals, and other providers would see their Medicare payments shrink by $25 billion next year if Congress approves a House Republican tax bill that would add roughly $1.5 trillion to the federal deficit over 10 years, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said today.

    Lower reimbursement would materialize because the increase in the deficit would trigger automatic "sequestration" cuts for a variety of federal programs, including Medicare, under the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go (PAYGO) Act of 2010. That law essentially forces the government to erase its red ink.

    The House measure, called the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, would add a prorated $150 billion to the deficit each year for 10 years, beginning in 2018. If Congress doesn't pass other legislation to offset the deficit increase, or otherwise somehow bypass PAYGO requirements, the CBO said, the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) would have to order $136 billion worth of sequestration cuts next year. There's already a PAYGO credit of $14 billion on the books for 2018, which would bring the total offset to the necessary $150 billion.

    PAYGO sequestration doesn't reduce guaranteed Medicare benefits to seniors, but it does reduce payments to providers, but by no more than 4%. In 2018, that percentage translates into a $25 billion cut, according to the CBO.
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    spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    every congresscritter that believes they should GIVEAWAY your tax money to non citizens and throw billions overseas should be horse whipped out of his cushy job
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    wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Didn't the Oblabber administration cut Medicare in order to help fund Oblabbercare?? Something like $500 billion smackers over a 10 year period.
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    discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,418 ✭✭✭✭
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    nope, that was Medicaid funds, a completey different animalquote:Originally posted by wifetrained
    Didn't the Oblabber administration cut Medicare in order to help fund Oblabbercare?? Something like $500 billion smackers over a 10 year period.
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    Tech141Tech141 Member Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by spasmcreek
    every congresscritter that believes they should GIVEAWAY your tax money to non citizens and throw billions overseas should be horse whipped out of his cushy job


    I wholeheartedly agree.
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    Ford 23Ford 23 Member Posts: 3,129
    edited November -1
    Best of my knowledge Johnson was the first to dip into the SS trust fund congress gave it an IOU. Other presidents since have dipped into the fund since Johnson ran off with a goodly amount to pay for Nam and his beloved Great Society

    I have never heard a politician stating the fund has to be replenished by paying up on the IOU, only it is going broke. There is no way in hell they would kick all the supposedly disable, illegals or any other possible voter off the SS roles--never happen
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    wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Ford 23
    Best of my knowledge Johnson was the first to dip into the SS trust fund congress gave it an IOU. Other presidents since have dipped into the fund since Johnson ran off with a goodly amount to pay for Nam and his beloved Great Society

    I have never heard a politician stating the fund has to be replenished by paying up on the IOU, only it is going broke. There is no way in hell they would kick all the supposedly disable, illegals or any other possible voter off the SS roles--never happen



    It ceased being a trust fund when they merged it into the general fund back in the late 60's. It's amazing how many today believe there's still a separate fund for SS.
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