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Alright; the RTKBA - clear and concise
wsfiredude
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No long drawn out explanations this time.
There is the RTKBA.
You either;
A) support it in it's entirety or
you do not
And yeah; it's that simple.
There is the RTKBA.
You either;
A) support it in it's entirety or
you do notAnd yeah; it's that simple.
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I reckon it is difficult to argue with a plain fact...ehhh ?
Well, I tried.
You have two groups that either resist or are at least are not enemies of the minority gun owners. These groups are the anti-gun crowd and the rest of the citizens who do not own guns and are either slightly anti-gun, slightly pro-gun or just plain netural about gun ownership. Now if you extremists go in to "claim" your gun rights in an combative, angry and militant manner (kinda like kicking sand in the face of ALL the groups I listed above) I don't care if you brought the framers of the constitution back from the dead and they all swore that all Americans have a "clear and concise" right to KABA, if you act all militant about claiming those gun rights, you will alienate the groups I mentioned above (forget about the extremist anti-gun groups, not talking about them, they are lost already) and you will either NOT get your rights or you will have to go to war with your own countrymen. But maybe that war is what some here want.
You are crying the same old temper tantrum while demanding your legitimate gun rights.. Sure, the RKBA IS clear and concise to people who are willing to be objective about it. But those objective people are in the minority. Even among gun owners.
The RTKBA is clear and concise. Period. Perceptions do not matter. The RTKBA is what it is; a RIGHT.
You have two groups that either resist or are at least are not enemies of the minority gun owners. These groups are the anti-gun crowd and the rest of the citizens who do not own guns and are either slightly anti-gun, slightly pro-gun or just plain netural about gun ownership.
No, you do not. You have two goups. One accepts the RTKBA for what it is. The other does not.
Now if you extremists go in to "claim" your gun rights in an combative, angry and militant manner (kinda like kicking sand in the face of ALL the groups I listed above) I don't care if you brought the framers of the constitution back from the dead and they all swore that all Americans have a "clear and concise" right to KABA,
Don't have to bring them back to swear to it. They already did. It is Article II to the BOR.
if you act all militant about claiming those gun rights, you will alienate the groups I mentioned above
So be it. I neither wish to nor will I keep company with those who accept perverted liberty. I'll take just one man who knows true liberty over 100 who know only compromise. The one I can count on to watch my back while the 100 would most likely put a dagger in it.
(forget about the extremist anti-gun groups, not talking about them, they are lost already) and you will either NOT get your rights
Got news for you. I do not have to 'get' my rights. I already have them. The only way I lose them would be for me to willingly relinquish them. I will not.
or you will have to go to war with your own countrymen.
Those who oppose the Constitution and liberty are not MY countrymen.
But maybe that war is what some here want.
No, it is not. What we want is simple. Adherance to the Constitution is rather simple to achieve. It's not a matter of they "can't" adhere to it, rather they "won't" adhere to it.
quote:Those who oppose the Constitution and liberty are not MY countrymen.
Tr, you better get your head out of your butt and UNDERSTAND this ..down where you live.
Gun controllers are NOT your `countrymen'...they are traitors.
Well..allow me to say...they are not MY countrymen...or of any other American that supports the Constitution.
The Rank and file that carry the water for the head gun controllers are FOOLS...unable to think for themselves. They hate their own country, they hate their own heritage
..and ultimately, they hate THEMSELVES.
They are not simply misguided souls, for they deliberately ignore history ..they reject the fact that every government ever formed eventually went bad.
The Founders left us the means for ABSOLUTE CONTROL over bad government...and you and the NRA INSIST upon turning that power over to a government going BAD...
You are a greater threat to liberty then the entire lot of Shumers/kennedys/fiendsteins.
You are that threat for YOU are the support mechanism for their utter corruption...by your support for gun control
You are crying the same old temper tantrum while demanding your legitimate gun rights.. Sure, the RKBA IS clear and concise to people who are willing to be objective about it. But those objective people are in the minority. Even among gun owners.
You have two groups that either resist or are at least are not enemies of the minority gun owners. These groups are the anti-gun crowd and the rest of the citizens who do not own guns and are either slightly anti-gun, slightly pro-gun or just plain netural about gun ownership. Now if you extremists go in to "claim" your gun rights in an combative, angry and militant manner (kinda like kicking sand in the face of ALL the groups I listed above) I don't care if you brought the framers of the constitution back from the dead and they all swore that all Americans have a "clear and concise" right to KABA, if you act all militant about claiming those gun rights, you will alienate the groups I mentioned above (forget about the extremist anti-gun groups, not talking about them, they are lost already) and you will either NOT get your rights or you will have to go to war with your own countrymen. But maybe that war is what some here want.
Well I can tell you, I don't want a war with my countrymen, or anyone else for that manner. I'm damned tired though of having to jump through hoops to practice something that is a personal right. I'm tired of trying to get along, and negoiate with those who do not want me to keep and bear arms. To me it seems obvious that no matter what they say, their plan is to take my arms from me, a bit at a time. Why do I have to give in to them, for something that I all ready have. I don't want a war, but as I said, I'm damned tired of having to give in. Its those who want to take my arms that want a war, not I. If they want one, they can damned well have one. I don't care if they are afraid of me owning arms, thats there problem not mine. I'll do my part to be a good citizen, and try and educate people about firearms facts, when that fails (which it does more times than not) all that is left is for them to pass their laws, and those of us who are 3 percenters to resist it, and let come to pass what it will. If they wish to make me a criminal, I'll go to war with them.
This needs to be shouted from the rooftops..and we need to stuff them down the throats of those accusing US of 'wanting a war'.
A wise man on here once stated that a coward dies a thousand deaths, but a brave man only one.
No long drawn out explanations this time.
There is the RTKBA.
You either;
A) support it in it's entirety or
And yeah; it's that simple.
Yes, it is indeed that simple.
Many will attempt to complicate the issue, or rationalize and justify their actions and positions, to assuage their greasy, guilty feelings for the stance they have taken and supported, but when all is said and done, it is what it is.
Highball make sure your relatives send us your inmate number and penitantary so we can send U some fruitcakes and reading material. Or a post the wake and funeral date so we can send flowers.
There will be no war over anything in this country till we have NO food. NO FOOD then people get a bit hairy, guns , can't eat them so the vast majority of the population sees them as a nusance and Alarmist Miltants as those that should be locked up or "Gitmoed".
I hope Highball U spend your time enjoying life more before U go down in a blaze for a cause that is beyond futile. When U get 5 to 20 Billion dollars up for the cause U have a chance. We have it too good to have revolt over any issue , but starvation.
I read the 2nd in 2 ways, thus the endless debate.
Does the people include "Black People" for werent blacks still slaves therefore not people and prohibited from gun ownership. Hmmmmm ANd sense the 2nd came before there freedom then the word people , is a "qualified people" hmmmmmmmmmm And because we are literalists and the 2nd is SO CLEAR ! NO ROOM FOR CHANGE or Discussion. Then no Black Person should be able to own GUNS ! See how silly taking things literally can be .
Spoken like a true troll.
No long drawn out explanations this time.
There is the RTKBA.
You either;
A) support it in it's entirety or
And yeah; it's that simple.
Yeah its fairly simple. I would also like to add that the Founding Fathers knew that against tyranny, the only way to save one's rights was not by the pen and ink, but by powder and lead.
No long drawn out explanations this time.
There is the RTKBA.
You either;
A) support it in it's entirety or
And yeah; it's that simple.
I support it in it's entirety. My entirety, not yours or anyone else's. I am an individualist![;)]
An individualist that is standing with shumer/Fiendstein/Dodd/kennedy.
The entirety of the Amendment is summed up in those four words ;
"Shall Not be Infringed".
So too, is summed up the life and times of this Republic.