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We need a Gun Ghandi !
melkor
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We really need a Gun Ghandi, a man that presents firearm ownership for what is should be for. Hunting , Self Defense, Collecting ,and Fun.
We need a spokes person that gets the 30 million or so Gun owners to do specific causes to show our combined spending power. For example Discover Card is anti-gun, all 30 million cut there cards up. Ebay is anti gun, boycott them and lets make a Gun freindly ebay GB is a great example but offer all products. Walmart pulls guns from there stores boycott them for 1 month. Etc. This may be the only way in the end to save our guns. What do U think ? [:D]
We need a spokes person that gets the 30 million or so Gun owners to do specific causes to show our combined spending power. For example Discover Card is anti-gun, all 30 million cut there cards up. Ebay is anti gun, boycott them and lets make a Gun freindly ebay GB is a great example but offer all products. Walmart pulls guns from there stores boycott them for 1 month. Etc. This may be the only way in the end to save our guns. What do U think ? [:D]
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I also always wear a tastefully arranged sarong of khadi cloth when purchasing firearms and when making salt.
Brad Steele
(You can tell I have children in the public school system.)
This the only way gun rights (and America) will ever really be safe.
These 'goals' are already met by the NRA.
None ..save self defense..address the Second Amendment.
That is the core issue with the nra and their supporters. These people refuse to stand ready to use the Second as the Founders intended it.
They stand on the side of the gun controllers and gun grabbers...and they will get no peace from me, no standing together, no comfort, no money, no respect.
They will get nothing except contempt for their cowardice, in peacetime, to even SPEAK OUT against tyranny.
They richly deserve that contempt, for giving aid and comfort to the enemy in its' drive to subjugate us.
Fixed it.
We really need a Gun Ghandi, a man that presents firearm ownership for what is should be for. Hunting , Self Defense, Collecting ,and Fun.
We need a spokes person that gets the 30 million or so Gun owners to do specific causes to show our combined spending power. For example Discover Card is anti-gun, all 30 million cut there cards up. Ebay is anti gun, boycott them and lets make a Gun freindly ebay GB is a great example but offer all products. Walmart pulls guns from there stores boycott them for 1 month. Etc. This may be the only way in the end to save our guns. What do U think ? [:D]
If this forum proves nothing else it proves this can't happen. There are to many close mined people of varying opinions and believes to have just 'one' person represent us all!!!
Human nature at it's worst![:(]
What I do want, expect and demand, yes Jim, demand; is that "one set of principals" be followed, this, as the proper representation of our Constitutional Republic.
Once these principals are back in place, people can go back to living their lives as they individually choose to do so and in accepting, or being required to bear the consequences of, their individual choices.
"Gun-Ghandi" be damned. We need do no more as a people than to restore the Republic.
One final point, reference this repetitive "close-minded" issue.
It seems to me that if a man educates himself, takes an objective and critical look all relevant information surrounding a particular situation, or a particular issue, then that man makes an informed decision about that situation, or that issue; that man being rock-solid in that assessment, or decision is then proper, informed and and not "close-minded".
To me, being "open-minded" is indicative of an inability to critically assess information and to subsequently make a solid decision. Kind of a girlie-man, wishy-washy kind of thingy, IMO.
Of course, I am "close-minded", as described by many, so hell, what do I know?[;)][:)]
No 'one' can do it.
If this forum proves nothing else it proves this can't happen. There are to many close mined people of varying opinions and believes to have just 'one' person represent us all!!!
Human nature at it's worst![:(]
An open mind without the dam of true conviction rapidly empties.
Brad Steele
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
If this forum proves nothing else it proves this can't happen. There are to many close mined people of varying opinions and believes to have just 'one' person represent us all!!!
Human nature at it's worst![:(]
An open mind without the dam of true conviction rapidly empties.
That is better than a closed mind where there is NO flow of information what so ever!!!
But I have yet to find anyone on this site with out 'true conviction'! But I have found some here who say if you don't believe the exact same way I do you do not have conviction which shows their ignorance and is just a property of a close minded prejudice person!![;)]
That is better than a closed mind where there is NO flow of information what so ever!!!
But I have yet to find anyone on this site with out 'true conviction'! But I have found some here who say if you don't believe the exact same way I do you do not have conviction which shows their ignorance and is just a property of a close minded prejudice person!![;)]
Sorry, Jim, I missed your reply.
It actually is a matter of perspective. Personally, over the past 3 - 4 years, my mind has been opened to the ideal and to the true meaning of the words in the 2nd Amendment. It was not so long ago, that my mind was closed to the actual meaning of freedom as unreasonable. I was open to government restriction and common-sense regulation.
It is now obvious to me that the only long-term solution is to ensure that every man, woman, and child in this country know what is said in the Constitution. It is imperative that all know that it is the individual that owns these rights, and that when we surrender those rights to the government, rather it be common-sense or the acceptance of some definition of reality, we have ceded control and are at the mercy of government for permission to do that for which no permission is required.
I submit that a compromised conviction is dangerous, as it does cede authority to government that legally cannot be ceded. The precedent thus set has resulted in the reality of which you speak. This reality need not be, and will not be once the people of this country internalize their ownership of these rights.
It is for this reason that the compromise of 'reality' and 'common-sense gun laws' must be countered whenever offered. The methods can be debated, but the conviction that the 2nd Amendment bans infringement is the starting point. Absent that starting point, all debate is merely at the fringes and does not address the true issue.
Brad Steele
All your nonsense talk of laws, rights and constitution will be rendered void for a while when Obama signs his executive order. Then AS JUDGES ARE REPLACED, and LAWs are made it will be over and U will have no say. Look at History folks
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
That is better than a closed mind where there is NO flow of information what so ever!!!
But I have yet to find anyone on this site with out 'true conviction'! But I have found some here who say if you don't believe the exact same way I do you do not have conviction which shows their ignorance and is just a property of a close minded prejudice person!![;)]
Sorry, Jim, I missed your reply.
It actually is a matter of perspective. Personally, over the past 3 - 4 years, my mind has been opened to the ideal and to the true meaning of the words in the 2nd Amendment. It was not so long ago, that my mind was closed to the actual meaning of freedom as unreasonable. I was open to government restriction and common-sense regulation.
It is now obvious to me that the only long-term solution is to ensure that every man, woman, and child in this country know what is said in the Constitution. It is imperative that all know that it is the individual that owns these rights, and that when we surrender those rights to the government, rather it be common-sense or the acceptance of some definition of reality, we have ceded control and are at the mercy of government for permission to do that for which no permission is required.
I submit that a compromised conviction is dangerous, as it does cede authority to government that legally cannot be ceded. The precedent thus set has resulted in the reality of which you speak. This reality need not be, and will not be once the people of this country internalize their ownership of these rights.
It is for this reason that the compromise of 'reality' and 'common-sense gun laws' must be countered whenever offered. The methods can be debated, but the conviction that the 2nd Amendment bans infringement is the starting point. Absent that starting point, all debate is merely at the fringes and does not address the true issue.
An open mind is one which allows you to continually evaluate and reevaluate things by considering other/new information you encounter as you proceed through this life, even if you have already made your mind up about something!!![;)]
Talking about it here is interesting but may of those here are too cheap to spend a dollar to actually get any thing done. Money talks, BS walks.
I noticed slum that you have not been around much. Been walking, I suspect.[;)][:)]
Member
USA
537 Posts
Posted - 01/26/2009 : 9:29:04 PM
Talking about it here is interesting but may of those here are too cheap to spend a dollar to actually get any thing done. Money talks, BS walks.
Your money has given us 20,000++++ Gun laws. Looks like a TON of BS to me.
Perhaps at some point you will gain the intelligence to stop using your emotions to look at the problem.
quote:slumlord44
Member
USA
537 Posts
Posted - 01/26/2009 : 9:29:04 PM
Talking about it here is interesting but may of those here are too cheap to spend a dollar to actually get any thing done. Money talks, BS walks.
Your money has given us 20,000++++ Gun laws. Looks like a TON of BS to me.
Perhaps at some point you will gain the intelligence to stop using your emotions to look at the problem.
HB,
You are only looking at the negative side of this.
How many anti-gun laws (legislation) were aborted by $$$$$. Like I said, this political/government is a system which is * and it is true $$$$$ talks, like it or not!!!
Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll = Money, and that's is what keeps the world going![}:)][:D]
Trouble is, the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights never mentions recreation. Liberals constantly do, to the exclusion of all other considerations, for good reason. If liberals can convince you a hunting/sporting test is not only relevant but primary, then arms for security, that is the winning of skirmishes with other human beings in times of emergency, are free for the criminalization.
If people indeed have 2nd Amendment rights, then they have the individual right, above all, to uninfringed private ownership of arms designed FOR SECURITY -- which means that the arms most certainly protected by the broad guarantee of the Second Amendment are those which are most likely to be confiscated and banned when the fraudulent "sport" test is applied unchallenged.
You will always lose an argument when the liberals' false "hunt/sport" interpretation of gun rights is used, since you are building your case on thin air. Our individual rights begin with arms suitable for security. Start there, and the next time somebody protests that a given firearm's "only purpose" is to neutralize people, thank them for making your case for the right to keep and bear it.
Palin. Nugent in 2012. How's that for gun ghandi?
No thanks.
Palin. Nugent in 2012. How's that for gun ghandi?
Who would run the country?? They would be off huntn and fishn all the time!!![8D]
quote:Originally posted by Chris L
Palin. Nugent in 2012. How's that for gun ghandi?
Who would run the country?? They would be off huntn and fishn all the time!!![8D]
That might not be a bad thing ![:D][:D]
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by Chris L
Palin. Nugent in 2012. How's that for gun ghandi?
Who would run the country?? They would be off huntn and fishn all the time!!![8D]
That might not be a bad thing ![:D][:D]
I like those two.
But I know A LOT of those in DC I would like to take hunting!![;)]
quote:Originally posted by trapguy2007
quote:Originally posted by Jim Rau
quote:Originally posted by Chris L
Palin. Nugent in 2012. How's that for gun ghandi?
Who would run the country?? They would be off huntn and fishn all the time!!![8D]
That might not be a bad thing ![:D][:D]
I like those two.
But I know A LOT of those in DC I would like to take hunting!![;)]
For mercies sake , please don't leave a crumb trail as you come out of the woods ![:D][:D]