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That didn't take long:Pres Obama willrestrict guns

Little-AcornLittle-Acorn Member Posts: 103 ✭✭
The so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" resulted in no reduction in gun crimes, probably since very few crimes were ever committed with so-called "Assault Weapons" in the first place. And when it expired, the "gunfights in the streets" predicted by many anti-gun-rights hysterics, failed to materialize.

Nonetheless, with Barack Obama in the White House for less than seven hours, this has appeared on the White House website.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/urban_policy/

quote:Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.


I guess it was inevitable. We voted for him, now we've got him.

I said earlier that I wished President Obama success. Restricting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens (which is all any gun legislation an ever do) produces the opposite effect: A lessening of safety and security in cities, neighborhoods, schools etc., as criminals find their victims are less and less able to fight back.

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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Little-Acorn
    The so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" resulted in no reduction in gun crimes, probably since very few crimes were ever committed with so-called "Assault Weapons" in the first place. And when it expired, the "gunfights in the streets" predicted by many anti-gun-rights hysterics, failed to materialize.

    Nonetheless, with Barack Obama in the White House for less than seven hours, this has appeared on the White House website.


    http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/urban_policy/

    quote:Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.


    I guess it was inevitable. We voted for him, now we've got him.

    I said earlier that I wished President Obama success. Restricting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens (which is all any gun legislation an ever do) produces the opposite effect: A lessening of safety and security in cities, neighborhoods, schools etc., as criminals find their victims are less and less able to fight back.

    This was on "his" website all along, he just moved it over to the whitehouse website, now that he is POTUS.

    quote:Originally posted by Little-Acorn
    We voted for him, now we've got him.
    Where do you get this WE???
    I DID NOT vote for him!
  • Little-AcornLittle-Acorn Member Posts: 103 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    This was on "his" website all along, he just moved it over to the whitehouse website, now that he is POTUS.
    Yep, without changing or modifying it a bit, though he could have.

    So much for the "rule of law" he claimed was important in his inaugural speech.

    As I said, that sure didn't take long.
  • rkba4everrkba4ever Member Posts: 815 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This should come as a surprise to nobody. The Fudds that voted for him believe he'll leave their guns alone, but don't care if those evil military look alike guns go bye-bye. Little does Elmer know, though, that their hunting guns most likely decend from miltary arms and will be on the chopping block sooner or later and labeled as "sniper rifles" or "combat shotguns" or whatever term they use to demonize them.

    The slope is slippery indeed, and the constitution will continue to be over-looked by the elites in power (of all political stripes, not just dem's - the reps are no better at protecting that document).
  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wow, how many times is that paragraph going to be posted?

    "We" didn't vote for him. 52% of the population did. That's far from a mandate.

    I pitty the fools who haven't been stocking up since '04 when the last one expired
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    quote:We voted for him, now we've got him.Man, I wish folks would stop saying this. Obama received approximately 66 million votes. That means 22% of the population voted for him.
  • br549br549 Member Posts: 1,024
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Little-Acorn
    The so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" resulted in no reduction in gun crimes, probably since very few crimes were ever committed with so-called "Assault Weapons" in the first place. And when it expired, the "gunfights in the streets" predicted by many anti-gun-rights hysterics, failed to materialize.

    Nonetheless, with Barack Obama in the White House for less than seven hours, this has appeared on the White House website.


    http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/urban_policy/

    quote:Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.


    I guess it was inevitable. We voted for him, now we've got him.

    I said earlier that I wished President Obama success. Restricting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens (which is all any gun legislation an ever do) produces the opposite effect: A lessening of safety and security in cities, neighborhoods, schools etc., as criminals find their victims are less and less able to fight back.
    don't know where you got the we voted for him bull. i dang sure didn't
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
    Wow, how many times is that paragraph going to be posted?
    FrancF was kind enough to move ANOTHER post about
    THE SAME TOPIC in here from General Discussion.
  • melkormelkor Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BUY them Hi CAPS NOW !
  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Little-Acorn
    They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof.

    John McPain must be happy to see that. He will finally see his "close the gun show loophole (McPain/ Liebermann) bill get passed.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the short term all B.O.B. has succeeded in doing is cause the gun companies to make a fortune....every Gun Shop in my area is completely bare of AR's and AK's...

    I am glad I bought a few in anticipation.....alot of this doesn't even effect certain parts of the Country...all you poor b*st*rds in NY and NJ, MA and Ca that can't buy anything without submitting forms 6 months in advance and blah, blah, blah....I'm glad I live in VA. Of course that is subject to change as more libs move to the Southeast and infect our local politics with their naive, socialist ideals.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
    Wow, how many times is that paragraph going to be posted?

    "We" didn't vote for him. 52% of the population did. That's far from a mandate.

    I pitty the fools who haven't been stocking up since '04 when the last one expired


    No, only approximately 52% of eligible voters did (oh, and the ineligible/fraudulent ones too). That figure is far, far less than 52% of the population.

    There should be zero surprise about his anti-Constitution beliefs and plans. After all, the evidence has been there to see all along.

    And so the planned destruction of the Republic continues, all the while, abject ignorance and outright stupidity thrive in this, the "new america"............
  • Jim RauJim Rau Member Posts: 3,550
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lt496
    quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
    Wow, how many times is that paragraph going to be posted?

    "We" didn't vote for him. 52% of the population did. That's far from a mandate.

    I pitty the fools who haven't been stocking up since '04 when the last one expired


    No, only approximately 52% of eligible voters did (oh, and the ineligible/fraudulent ones too). That figure is far, far less than 52% of the population.

    There should be zero surprise about his anti-Constitution beliefs and plans. After all, the evidence has been there to see all along.

    And so the planned destruction of the Republic continues, all the while, abject ignorance and outright stupidity thrive in this, the "new america"............



    Yes it does. And until the SHTF people will not care or even notice. It's human nature. There are a few of us who are on top of this, but damn few!!![V]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:There are a few of us who are on top of this, but damn few!!!True statement Jim, true statement.
  • dynamitedynamite Member Posts: 118 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To be honest this doesn't surprise me one little bit.

    It's only a matter of time before we see another repressive AWB.

    I heard he planned to get it reinstated within 90 days of getting sworn in as president.
  • OLDCOPOLDCOP Member Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    SOMEONE ONCE SAID, "I'D RATHER BE TRIED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY SIX." WE NEED TERM LIMITS ON OUR CONGRESS...NO MORE "CAREER" POLITICIANS!
  • gobhockgobhock Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    From: Flo Ron Paul 2012
    Date: Jan 27, 2009 4:00 PM


    From: "Eric Nordstrom" ..





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    Ammunition Accountability Legislation

    Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns?
    Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no
    problem with taking your ammo!

    The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and
    Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture
    a data base of all ammunition sales.

    So they will know how much you
    buy and what calibers.



    http://ammunitionaccountability.
    org/Legislation.
    htm

    Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the
    ammunition is coded.



    Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1,
    2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .

    05
    cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at
    least $2.

    50 or more!

    If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

    All eyes are diverted on talk radio topics, bailouts, television
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    placing the second amendment into a grave.



    This legislation is currently IN COMMITTEE in 18 states: Alabama,
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    Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York,
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    Send to every person in these united states!

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  • one2hutnone2hutn Member Posts: 261 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey, I'm new here and I'm learning alot by reading these threads. But since I'm new first let me say-I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM- and I'm not nearly up to speed on all the information you all seem to be knowledgable about, but anyone that voted for Obama is a sheep and they'll get what they want- a government that tells them what, how, and when to do something.>CHRIS
  • BignickBignick Member Posts: 20 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I for one am glad this administration is doing this.(read the rest before you get angry). It shows their true colors. None of us are surprised but some idiots are.This guys agenda was clear for all to see but for various reasons some refused to believe.He'll make it clear in other areas besides RKBA soon enough and I'll give a ruefull smile to each one.You wanted it America,you got it.The republican party better get it together and stop acting like democrat-lite so we can take this country back.Hopefully by the next congressional election.
  • one2hutnone2hutn Member Posts: 261 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im with you on that Nick, but it makes me sick at the same time. All I know is suddenly all these sheep that were in my face about he's gonna win, he's gotta win, he's gonna save us, are already singing a different tune the second he's sworn in. I'm hearing things like -"oh of course he can't fix everything, no one can, Bush F'd it up so bad" and that's bababooey. During the damn election they were all acting like the heavens had split open and Jesus himself was Evil Kineviling into Ft Worth on a sportster. Hey, he had all the answers, he had all the solutions! Just more worthless lies and they all heard what they wanted to hear>Suckers>yeah Nick, I too wear that twisted smile.
  • Tech141Tech141 Member Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    C'mon, Look at barry HUSSEIN obama's voting record for the time he has actually been in an "elected" office.... VOTING AGAINST THE SECOOND AMENDMENT? Ya Think? Einstein>????

    He's an A$$bag that will destroy this country.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    You republicans are REALLY mad...YOUR man didn't manage to COMPLETELY pull down America.
    Too bad you didn't get your man in...the gun controlling, open borders, rush back to washington dc to vote for the 750 billion dollar give to his buddies slush fund FREAK....

    republicans, democrates...THAT is what is REALLY wrong with America. Ignorant masses of phrotoplasm..120 million of them..that flocked to the polls to vote obamacain.
  • papernickerpapernicker Member Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What did you do? stay home and draw on yourself in the mirror asking if you were talking to you?
  • 1911 Gunslinger1911 Gunslinger Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by papernicker
    What did you do? stay home and draw on yourself in the mirror asking if you were talking to you?

    I think what HBall means is that too many stupid people toe the party line and stay faithful no matter how much the party screws them. Neither the D or R party is on the side of the people. They have sold out to special interest groups, and greed. Despite this enough people keep voting for them to keep these two a$$clown parties in power.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    What I DIDN'T do, paper, is stroke myself off pretending that I had a human being in mccain ...somebody that was an American.
    Americans don't push for gun control, Limiting free speech, advocating endless swarms of barbarians infesting this country..

    I was unable to demean myself to that level.

    Of course, there are 120 million out there that have no trouble at all crawling in the slime trails left by obmacain in their run for the presidency.
    Be proud...you undoubtedly were a member of the herd.

    Yet one more proof as to why the Founders despised Democracy. People like you eventually overwhelm the decency, common sense, and intelligence of the few.
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