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What Have You Done ?

HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
What have YOU done ?
Words waved like a talisman against those of us advocating a return to Constitutional principles in this country.

Never fails to raise the hair on the back of my neck. WHAT, exactly, are these people saying ?
When we point out our activism right here on these forums, the internet..the sneering replies are always ."The INTERNET..WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE real WORLD"..
Apparently the people with whom we are speaking are merely computer programs, placed there by the geeks for our own amusement. I wish those geeks would generate a bit more intelligence in those programs, if so...

The point of this all is...if I personally NEVER did one single thing concrete to advance the cause of freedom from oppressive government...

that does not excuse the critics of THEIR inaction..or even worse, their complicity in laws restricting, defeating the purpose of, or otherwise selling this country down the river.
Think CCWs'.
That does NOT excuse their persistence on voting for hollow men that make no secret of their contempt for Founding principles....think mccain.

RATHER would I do nothing at all...then aid and abet the enemy in his destruction of us, the US.
What have I done ? I have not advanced the programs of the deadliest threat to mankind ever visualized....this One World Order our `leaders' are taking us to.

You that condemn, criticize, vilify, and hate we few are guilty of turning your backs on reality, on the Founders, and your Country.
THAT is what YOU have done.

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  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...their complicity in laws restricting, defeating the purpose of, or otherwise selling this country down the river.

    ...their persistence on voting for hollow men that make no secret of their contempt for Founding principles....think mccain.
    RATHER would I do nothing at all...then aid and abet the enemy in his destruction of us, the US.

    What have I done ? I have not advanced the programs of the deadliest threat to mankind ever visualized....this One World Order our `leaders' are taking us to.

    You that condemn, criticize, vilify, and hate we few are guilty of turning your backs on reality, on the Founders, and your Country.
    THAT is what YOU have done.

    Agree 100%. I'd rather 'sit on the sidelines' than to engage in behavior destructive to liberty.
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    What have YOU done ?
    Words waved like a talisman against those of us advocating a return to Constitutional principles in this country.

    Never fails to raise the hair on the back of my neck. WHAT, exactly, are these people saying ?
    When we point out our activism right here on these forums, the internet..the sneering replies are always ."The INTERNET..WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE real WORLD"..
    Apparently the people with whom we are speaking are merely computer programs, placed there by the geeks for our own amusement. I wish those geeks would generate a bit more intelligence in those programs, if so...

    The point of this all is...if I personally NEVER did one single thing concrete to advance the cause of freedom from oppressive government...

    that does not excuse the critics of THEIR inaction..or even worse, their complicity in laws restricting, defeating the purpose of, or otherwise selling this country down the river.
    Think CCWs'.
    That does NOT excuse their persistence on voting for hollow men that make no secret of their contempt for Founding principles....think mccain.

    RATHER would I do nothing at all...then aid and abet the enemy in his destruction of us, the US.
    What have I done ? I have not advanced the programs of the deadliest threat to mankind ever visualized....this One World Order our `leaders' are taking us to.

    You that condemn, criticize, vilify, and hate we few are guilty of turning your backs on reality, on the Founders, and your Country.
    THAT is what YOU have done.



    And old trick. Making a virture out of a vice. Claiming "inaction" is "action." Claiming not to participate is to resist. Kinda like the book Animal Farm or the book 1984.Even though we all know that Highbail has "participated" in the past regarding following gun laws. Such cannot be otherwise. Otherwise, either Highbail would have not guns or (sadly, I admit) would be in prison.
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    tr, you have been around a VERY LONG time, because surely this was written specifically for you...

    )"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Such cannot be otherwise. Otherwise, either Highbail would have not guns or (sadly, I admit) would be in prison.

    Wrong on both counts.

    Ever hear of private sales between folks?

    Ever consider the possibility that not all firearms are produced in a large manufacturing facility?
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    Shane! It is a very thin and fragile wall that protects trweasel from reality. Don't force him to break out a can of restraining order to keep you from shattering it! Ok?!
  • wsfiredudewsfiredude Member Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shane! It is a very thin and fragile wall that protects trweasel from reality. Don't force him to break out a can of restraining order to keep you from shattering it! Ok?!


    We couldn't have that, could we?[:D]
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I also have never done anything concrete.

    At one time, when I was a "sheeple" I thought I was doing something by belonging to the NRA, and writing letters/faxes to corrupt politicians.

    I am no longer that person.
    I now belong to GOA, which I believe is "no compromise",.......if they prove me wrong, I will quit them just as I did the NRA.

    I still send a small amount of communications to politicians, but with no expectation of any result.
    My main purpose now is to insult them, and their attitude of elitism.

    Right now the main thing I try to do, is actually speak one on one to folks that I know, or meet, and try to explain what is really taking place in the Republic.

    I may not post here as much as some of my Brethren,.......but be assured, I am out there spreading the word.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • MatchshotMatchshot Member Posts: 452 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    What have YOU done ?


    Actually I have done something. I have clarified my thoughts and sharpened my focus and prepared for the day, if it comes, that the balloon (figuratively) goes up. I talk to people. In my job I have the opportunity to talk to many who have never fired a gun much less even held one. Our job is to educate where we can and learn who we can trust.
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    A little digression here from the subject: why does one have to praise his own doing? Seems wrong to me, can't put a finger on it why, just sort of counterproductive unless you're a big commercial institution in need of funds...
  • MatchshotMatchshot Member Posts: 452 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
    A little digression here on the subject: why does one have to praise his own doing? Seems wrong to me, can't put a finger on it why, just sort of counterproductive unless you're a big commercial institution in need of funds...


    ??? who praise his own doing?
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Matchshot

    ??? who praise his own doing?


    brag, maybe is a better term?
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    It is remarkably simple ;

    Those sleeping with the Beast are ALWAYS willing to talk about their experiences with that Beast...the cozy letters, the face-to-face meetings,the endless pnone calls, the sexy e-mails....


    Those unalterably opposed to that Beast tend to keep their mouths shut about what they might be doing.
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    Highball, I agree, but I think there something inherently deeper than that. Perhaps, recognition of the fact that whatever these people are doing, "the real work" is one of the terms that's been used, recognition on some maybe even subconscious level, that it's ... looking for a word ... wrong? approach, and the need to affirm their own actions in their own perception, as well as projection of some "success". I need to formulate this better... Maybe after a cold one. [8D]
  • 1911 Gunslinger1911 Gunslinger Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr faux
    And old trick. Making a virture out of a vice. Claiming "inaction" is "action." Claiming not to participate is to resist. Kinda like the book Animal Farm or the book 1984.Even though we all know that Highbail has "participated" in the past regarding following gun laws. Such cannot be otherwise. Otherwise, either Highbail would have not guns or (sadly, I admit) would be in prison.


    Yes you should follow tr faux's model of being a pro"common sense" and "moderate" gun grabbing NRA member and then troll the pro gun sites spewing garbage about how great the NRA is, how they have your back, etc. When your cover is blown, do what tr faux does....resort to personal attacks on those who chose to uphold the Constitution and expose the anti-gun sleepers in our ranks.
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    Digressing again: has this ever been suggested that tr fox might be actually trolling with all those inane ideas just to get everyone riled up and united for a cause to which he might actually subscribe and believe? [:D][}:)]
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:Digressing again: has this ever been suggested that tr fox might be actually trolling with all those inane ideas just to get everyone riled up and united for a cause to which he might actually subscribe and believe?
    Suggested ;
    Considered ;
    Rejected.

    Long since.
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    Juss checkin'. Understood. Bummer.
  • slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Tr fox
    As usual the voice of sanity. I'm with you. When in doubt, at least do something.
  • zinkzink Member Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
    Tr fox
    As usual the voice of sanity. I'm with you. When in doubt, at least do something.


    I agree to do something! But when it has been proven, and admitted to by the NRA, that they have supported enforceable gun control laws since 1871 that to continue supporting them is insane. They have "bargained away" our rights since their inception.

    We are doing something, standing for our rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution of the United States. It is time for those who believe in true freedom to take a stand and say enough is enough. Involve your friends, family and bend anybodies ear and let them know what is happening. Tell them not to believe you and to do some looking for themselves to see the truth behind the NRA's curtain. They will find we have been sold out years ago and with the new legislation looming over us, that the NRA will not go to the floor for us, but for themselves.

    Lance
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    What have YOU done ?
    Words waved like a talisman against those of us advocating a return to Constitutional principles in this country.
    Along those same lines.....
    Those same people/programs say something like,
    "Well, when are YOU going to start a revolution?" [V]
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:Along those same lines.....
    Those same people/programs say something like,
    "Well, when are YOU going to start a revolution?"

    Indeed.
    Yet the truth of the matter is...THEY are going to 'start the revolution'.
    They are going to crawl and lick the boots of their Masters once too often...present their backsides for the pleasure of those in power one time too many.

    Their failure to stand and be counted as men amongst men is leading irrevocably to that which they fear the most...the absolute necessity of taking this country back through the last desperate means left us by the Founders.
    THEIR failure to support and defend the Constitution is taking us into that dark hell that none of us might survive.

    The blame for what we face falls SQUARELY upon the shoulders of the Trfoxes, slumlords, and the NRAs of this country.
    Compromisers, Quislings, fellow travelers, and cowards...they represent what the Founders drove out of this country...or shunned as human beings.

    They are the majority in this country ..the man supporting the founding documents is an outcast, a tiny minority, a 3 percenter.
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
    Tr fox
    As usual the voice of sanity. I'm with you. When in doubt, at least do something.


    It is reasonable to support the enemy?? Sounds more like insanity to me.
  • RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
    quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
    Tr fox
    As usual the voice of sanity. I'm with you. When in doubt, at least do something.


    It is reasonable to support the enemy?? Sounds more like insanity to me.


    All about perspective: depends on which side you're standing.
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    I KNOW which side I stand on, and I KNOW which side the NRA grovels/performs double-agent duty, on. They are NOT the same side.
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