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Midnight Hour

flat8flat8 Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭
IMHO, I feel that we are past midnight in this country. The government no longer represents the people, and I will no longer recognize it as legitimate. Our birthright has been looted, raped, and sold to the highest bidder. May God help us all. As for me, I am dropping out of the process and will not engage in our political charade. I refuse to pretend that we live in a free nation any longer. We are on the verge of collapse, and I will not lift a finger to halt the decline. This nation is getting exactly what it wants - and exactly what it deserves.

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    jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
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    No disagreement.

    BTW, where the heck have you been?
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    RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
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    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf

    BTW, where the heck have you been?


    Look in his profile: "flying, traveling, camping, firearm shooting and collecting, and just walking in the woods." [:D]

    I dunno if I agree about that we're on the verge, but it's arguably so that we might have passed the point of no return.
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    melkormelkor Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
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    Why don't U join the ARMCHAIR GENERALS , and get ready to die for your guns. They seem to think its a good cause despite the fact that we lost this nation in 1913, which they ignore.
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    WerwolfWerwolf Member Posts: 475 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by flat8
    IMHO, I feel that we are past midnight in this country. The government no longer represents the people, and I will no longer recognize it as legitimate. Our birthright has been looted, raped, and sold to the highest bidder. May God help us all. As for me, I am dropping out of the process and will not engage in our political charade. I refuse to pretend that we live in a free nation any longer. We are on the verge of collapse, and I will not lift a finger to halt the decline. This nation is getting exactly what it wants - and exactly what it deserves.

    You will get no argument here, nor from anyone else that truly supports 2A/RKBA and the Constitution, but beware the fakers as they pretend that they are one of us, but are not and are rather enemies of the Constitution.
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    IAMAHUSKERIAMAHUSKER Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    We lost the Republic after the civil war. 1913 was just another nail melkor.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by melkor
    Why don't U join the ARMCHAIR GENERALS , and get ready to die for your guns. They seem to think its a good cause despite the fact that we lost this nation in 1913, which they ignore.


    You continue to show your *.

    NO "armchair generals" here Gomer, just a group of individualist, liberty loving Americans who espouse the idea and though of constitutionally limited government and contrast those ideas/principals with current actions of government. You know, the ol' "use the Constitution, Bill of Rights and founding principals of individualism as a yardstick" thingy, to measure and constrast government actions for the viewing pleasure of the "Gomers" among us.

    As to the point about the Federal Reserve and international bankers taking over this Constitutional Republic in 1913, I agree that this was the "bright-line" that effectively enslaved us and put us on our present path.

    The Republic died at that point, but nothing is hopeless, nor irreversible.

    The Central Bank and the cabal of international banks/bankers that it is associated with, have been directly responsible for America being involved in each foreign war, police action and unconstitutional presidential exercise of "war powers" since WWI. We have been looted financially, made slaves to these entities and brought down to a "servant nation" status, with our "elected representatives" being mere figureheads controlled and managed to do the bidding of this cabal, wittingly, or unwittingly.

    Non of that, however, has any bearing on the relentless efforts of many here to drag the focus (albeit a focus dragged kicking and screaming) onto what principals, ideals and structure of governance that this nation was founded on, your efforts to belittle those efforts notwithstanding.

    It is long past time to shine the bright light of these principals and ideals onto our current sad state of affairs.

    Who knows, maybe one or two people will actually have an epiphany of sorts. If so, that is a good thing.
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
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    Flat8 ;
    You have completed the transition, Sir .

    You have come from the ranks of the stupid, the ignorant, the followers and the general mass of garbage that infests this country. Such is represented right here on your thread, oddly enough.

    You now have thrown off the shackles and mind-numbing veil of propaganda that we all are subjected to on a daily basis.

    Congratulations !!

    Noww...GET BUSY !! You have much to do...and precious little time to do it. You are looking clear-eyed at the sitution...a little thought will tell you what you MUST do .
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by flat8
    IMHO, I feel that we are past midnight in this country. The government no longer represents the people, and I will no longer recognize it as legitimate. Our birthright has been looted, raped, and sold to the highest bidder. May God help us all. As for me, I am dropping out of the process and will not engage in our political charade. I refuse to pretend that we live in a free nation any longer. We are on the verge of collapse, and I will not lift a finger to halt the decline. This nation is getting exactly what it wants - and exactly what it deserves.
    I am with you in that understanding of government and its state of affairs flat8. I differ, in that I never plan on dropping out, or giving up.

    The political game is indeed a charade, but whilst I have a vote and a voice, I will cast that vote and use that voice for Constitutional governance and for the Republic.

    Collapse is looming. How quickly, or how completely is in question, but it looms nonetheless.
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    flat8flat8 Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    Flat8 ;
    You have completed the transition, Sir .

    You have come from the ranks of the stupid, the ignorant, the followers and the general mass of garbage that infests this country. Such is represented right here on your thread, oddly enough.

    You now have thrown off the shackles and mind-numbing veil of propaganda that we all are subjected to on a daily basis.

    Congratulations !!

    Noww...GET BUSY !! You have much to do...and precious little time to do it. You are looking clear-eyed at the sitution...a little thought will tell you what you MUST do .


    Already done sir. I spent a decade living in NYC working at a high level for one of the now-defunct investment banks. By 2005 I realized the gig was up, sold (nearly) everything, and traveled around the world for a year. I visited many third-word hell-holes and socialist utopias out of a strange curiosity to see what is coming to our shores. 2007 I returned to the US and moved to the desert, set up a small consulting firm, and love this country more than ever . . . which is why I no longer participate in its engineered decline.

    As for being prepared . . . there is a plan A, B, and C - literally - and I have all the resources at hand to execute any of the above.

    God help us all.
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    tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
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    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    Flat8 ;
    You have completed the transition, Sir .

    You have come from the ranks of the stupid, the ignorant, the followers and the general mass of garbage that infests this country. Such is represented right here on your thread, oddly enough.

    You now have thrown off the shackles and mind-numbing veil of propaganda that we all are subjected to on a daily basis.

    Congratulations !!

    Noww...GET BUSY !! You have much to do...and precious little time to do it. You are looking clear-eyed at the sitution...a little thought will tell you what you MUST do .


    Sure, but just what EXACTLY is he going to do? He already told us what he will "not" do, but not what he "will" do. Other than perhaps like some of the C. * here and just go off and hide in a cave somewhere until somebody who is actually willing to "do" something (other than pound their keyboard) puts their world back in order.
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    tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by lt496
    quote:Originally posted by flat8
    IMHO, I feel that we are past midnight in this country. The government no longer represents the people, and I will no longer recognize it as legitimate. Our birthright has been looted, raped, and sold to the highest bidder. May God help us all. As for me, I am dropping out of the process and will not engage in our political charade. I refuse to pretend that we live in a free nation any longer. We are on the verge of collapse, and I will not lift a finger to halt the decline. This nation is getting exactly what it wants - and exactly what it deserves.
    I am with you in that understanding of government and its state of affairs flat8. I differ, in that I never plan on dropping out, or giving up.

    The political game is indeed a charade, but whilst I have a vote and a voice, I will cast that vote and use that voice for Constitutional governance and for the Republic.

    Collapse is looming. How quickly, or how completely is in question, but it looms nonetheless.




    In red above. When I see sanity, I admit it. Regardless of from whom it comes from.
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
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    Flat8 ;
    Simply splendid, Sir, indeed.
    From such as you will spring the seeds of of even a greater America ... one able to look at the crushing mistakes of the old America. ..and do better.
    Please accept my congratulations for your escape into reality, and the determination to DO something about it that is real and tangible.


    I too, will never lift another finger to advance the cause of present day america...nor will I aid and abet those determined to bring about Americas' demise by condoning ANY action put forth by those in power.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    Flat8 ;
    You have completed the transition, Sir .

    You have come from the ranks of the stupid, the ignorant, the followers and the general mass of garbage that infests this country. Such is represented right here on your thread, oddly enough.

    You now have thrown off the shackles and mind-numbing veil of propaganda that we all are subjected to on a daily basis.

    Congratulations !!

    Noww...GET BUSY !! You have much to do...and precious little time to do it. You are looking clear-eyed at the sitution...a little thought will tell you what you MUST do .


    Sure, but just what EXACTLY is he going to do? He already told us what he will "not" do, but not what he "will" do. Other than perhaps like some of the C. * here and just go off and hide in a cave somewhere until somebody who is actually willing to "do" something (other than pound their keyboard) puts their world back in order.


    Yeah, we should all be like YOU TR, and throw our money at the problem, and claim we are doing something. Supporting the NRA and gun control will get our right back faster eh?

    A man with half his wits, isn't going to tell YOU what he IS going to do, OR how he is prepared to do it. When it comes down to the brass tacks TR, it won't be YOU on the front line.


    Don't you have a coffee machine to go gaurd or something? [}:)]
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    trfox...I think you are fast becoming the new Hairy...although I do believe I have far more in common with Hairy than you...
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    kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
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    quote:Originally posted by tr fox

    Sure, but just what EXACTLY is he going to do? He already told us what he will "not" do, but not what he "will" do. Other than perhaps like some of the C. * here and just go off and hide in a cave somewhere until somebody who is actually willing to "do" something (other than pound their keyboard) puts their world back in order.

    With very few exceptions and I add that clause for you TR, Pounding keys requires thought. What you reveal when you pound these keys usually represents where your mind is at.

    In short your key poundings are unimpressive.
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    tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
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    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox

    Sure, but just what EXACTLY is he going to do? He already told us what he will "not" do, but not what he "will" do. Other than perhaps like some of the C. * here and just go off and hide in a cave somewhere until somebody who is actually willing to "do" something (other than pound their keyboard) puts their world back in order.

    With very few exceptions and I add that clause for you TR, Pounding keys requires thought. What you reveal when you pound these keys usually represents where your mind is at.

    In short your key poundings are unimpressive.


    I cheerfully accept your charge about my keyboard pounding being "unimpressive". I would be surprised if my keyboard pounding DID impress anyone. However, since I do not claim to be the one and only power to be able to interpert the constitution, nor do I claim to be one of only a few "real, true and manly" patriots who are all militant, angry and ready to fight the government. So in that regard, those keyboard kommandos are even less impressive than me because THEY ARE POSERS!
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    kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
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    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox

    Sure, but just what EXACTLY is he going to do? He already told us what he will "not" do, but not what he "will" do. Other than perhaps like some of the C. * here and just go off and hide in a cave somewhere until somebody who is actually willing to "do" something (other than pound their keyboard) puts their world back in order.

    With very few exceptions and I add that clause for you TR, Pounding keys requires thought. What you reveal when you pound these keys usually represents where your mind is at.

    In short your key poundings are unimpressive.


    I cheerfully accept your charge about my keyboard pounding being "unimpressive". I would be surprised if my keyboard pounding DID impress anyone. However, since I do not claim to be the one and only power to be able to interpert the constitution, nor do I claim to be one of only a few "real, true and manly" patriots who are all militant, angry and ready to fight the government. So in that regard, those keyboard kommandos are even less impressive than me because THEY ARE POSERS!


    I would rather live and POSE with a spine than without.
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    tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
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    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox

    Sure, but just what EXACTLY is he going to do? He already told us what he will "not" do, but not what he "will" do. Other than perhaps like some of the C. * here and just go off and hide in a cave somewhere until somebody who is actually willing to "do" something (other than pound their keyboard) puts their world back in order.

    With very few exceptions and I add that clause for you TR, Pounding keys requires thought. What you reveal when you pound these keys usually represents where your mind is at.

    In short your key poundings are unimpressive.


    I cheerfully accept your charge about my keyboard pounding being "unimpressive". I would be surprised if my keyboard pounding DID impress anyone. However, since I do not claim to be the one and only power to be able to interpert the constitution, nor do I claim to be one of only a few "real, true and manly" patriots who are all militant, angry and ready to fight the government. So in that regard, those keyboard kommandos are even less impressive than me because THEY ARE POSERS!


    I would rather live and POSE with a spine than without.


    Agreed. But except for all the posing and bragging posted via their keyboard pounding exactly what, other than big angry militant talk, have the posers actually DONE except keyboard pound? I make no claims for myself so in that regard I am not a poser.
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    kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
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    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    have the posers actually DONE except keyboard pound? I make no claims for myself so in that regard I am not a poser.


    Loose lips sink ships, open your mind a little but not far enough to let your brain fall out.

    As most grown men realize they have only God to answer to, so surely you will forgive people when they do not hand you a bulleted list of accomplishments.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    Agreed. But except for all the posing and bragging posted via their keyboard pounding exactly what, other than big angry militant talk, have the posers actually DONE except keyboard pound? I make no claims for myself so in that regard I am not a poser.


    And WHAT exactly have YOU done? Besides giving money to the biggest comprimising, gun rights losing, organization?

    Write a few letters? A few phone calls? Vote? WE have ALL done that.

    Now, what are YOU doing, that we are NOT to advance gun rights?
    Are you loyal enough to the founding documants AND your countrymen that you are prepared to do whatever might need done, to SAVE the country? Are you supplied, trained, and prepared, in case you might be needed?

    Uh huh, thats what I thought.

    And I get accused of being an old heckler in the balcony.
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    jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
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    freemind, be honest, if it came to that (doing whatever needed) and tr ran up to you asking to help, what would you do?
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
    freemind, be honest, if it came to that (doing whatever needed) and tr ran up to you asking to help, what would you do?
    Don't know about freemind, jp, but I'd give him fair warning to turn and get out of my AO, or get his * kicked, at least.

    Couldn't trust having him around where he might be out of sight for even a moment. He'd bring the bad-boys down on you in a heartbeat for the price of 30 pieces of....whatever.[:)]
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    jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
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    You are much more benevolent than I. I would/will provide the weasel with a more permanent response.

    He'd do it not for 30 pieces, but for a pat on the head and hope that they would "let him" remain one of them.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
    You are much more benevolent than I. I would/will provide the weasel with a more permanent response.

    He do it not for 30 pieces, but for a pat on the head and hope that they would "let him" remain one of them.
    Understood jp. Just trying to be quasi-fair and give "fair warning", ala you got "one-chance" to get gone; which is about as far as it goes with weasel-like people and me.[;)]
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
    freemind, be honest, if it came to that (doing whatever needed) and tr ran up to you asking to help, what would you do?


    Men Er, PEOPLE who have a yellow streak don't run TO danger, they run away. I wouldn't have to worry about him running up to me about anything, I sermise.
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    jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
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    Your point is probably correct James, but the chance to "score" a bargaining chip at your expense would make it a difficult decision for him I expect. Would you risk family and comrades by giving one second to filth such as that?
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
    Your point is probably correct James, but the chance to "score" a bargaining chip at your expense would make it a difficult decision for him I expect. Would you risk family and comrades by giving one second to filth such as that?


    Knowing how he thinks, NO. But you have to remember that you will likely not "know" everyone whom will come to you in that scenerio. If a resistance are to ever take place, your forces will need to grow too.

    Ever watchful, ever vigilant, my friend. Never trust anyone too much. The ones who turn on you, you usually never expect.
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    Jim RauJim Rau Member Posts: 3,550
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    quote:Originally posted by lt496
    quote:Originally posted by flat8
    IMHO, I feel that we are past midnight in this country. The government no longer represents the people, and I will no longer recognize it as legitimate. Our birthright has been looted, raped, and sold to the highest bidder. May God help us all. As for me, I am dropping out of the process and will not engage in our political charade. I refuse to pretend that we live in a free nation any longer. We are on the verge of collapse, and I will not lift a finger to halt the decline. This nation is getting exactly what it wants - and exactly what it deserves.
    I am with you in that understanding of government and its state of affairs flat8. I differ, in that I never plan on dropping out, or giving up.

    The political game is indeed a charade, but whilst I have a vote and a voice, I will cast that vote and use that voice for Constitutional governance and for the Republic.

    Collapse is looming. How quickly, or how completely is in question, but it looms nonetheless.




    I agree with you Jeff!!![V]
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    flat8flat8 Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭
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    Gentleman, it is a tough situation for us all. We will each have our Rubicon - and it is unique for each of us. Where your line is drawn is between you and God.

    As for me, I will continue to pray for our leaders. I pray that God softens their hearts and removes their madness. But, I must also be accountable to Him some day, and I can't compromise with evil any more.

    As Ayn Rand best said, "In any compromise between food and poison, only death can win."

    Highball - thanks for your kind words . . . but I do believe I will be very alone when "that day" comes.

    tr - I wish you luck and I hope that you see that your fight was lost decades ago. Now, the waterfall is near, and the water of this river is speeding toward that precipice with alarming speed.
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
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    quote:Highball - thanks for your kind words . . . but I do believe I will be very alone when "that day" comes.
    Flat8;
    You may well chose to be alone ..but you will NOT be the sole person doing what must be done in this country.

    There are the 3 % I speak of out there. They are few and far between ..but that is their strength.
    Little Brother is EVERYWHERE...and he is watching Big Brother. always, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    When the time comes, and we the People are attacked by the Beast ..the Beast will indeed find that he misjudged ..and retribution will be terrible.
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