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What if we make a mistake ?
Canary ass no. 1
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Simply put...we WILL make mistakes on members, at some point in time.
Allowing a member in that has an agenda will be difficult to prevent...unless we limit members to those having five hundred or a thousand posts. Even then..there are people that are pefectly capable of hiding their true feelings for years...
We will admit fewer members, a safer course.
Will that actually make the 3% stronger ? We are in a time that we can afford to gamble a bit..IN MY OPINION, only. I feel that allowing those that openly profess to respect the Constitution a sense of actually rubbing shoulders with men that would give it all for that ideal will be a win-win for us...
You will observe many members of GB that have few posts..even though they have been members for years. Some just do not post much. Should we disallow them from OUR roles...because they are silent here ?
Once again...my opinion is simply that we will have a stronger organization if we have a recognized means to rift from our ranks ANY that attempt to discredit us by avowing their undying loyality to the Beast...thereby allowing us a bit of latitude to make that first mistake.
The current pending membership is a case in point. He could well be a dagger aimed at the heart of those California compromisers that infest Calguns. Gaining a toehold over there, by one that speaks their language, would be invaluble.
By the same token...he poses no real risk to us..for NONE of us will change OUR minds.
When you stand on the Constitution, what possible can one do to you that isn't ALREADY being done to us ?
Enplacing a method to bounce snakes makes the structure of this organization invulnerable to attacks of that particular viper.
Allowing a member in that has an agenda will be difficult to prevent...unless we limit members to those having five hundred or a thousand posts. Even then..there are people that are pefectly capable of hiding their true feelings for years...
We will admit fewer members, a safer course.
Will that actually make the 3% stronger ? We are in a time that we can afford to gamble a bit..IN MY OPINION, only. I feel that allowing those that openly profess to respect the Constitution a sense of actually rubbing shoulders with men that would give it all for that ideal will be a win-win for us...
You will observe many members of GB that have few posts..even though they have been members for years. Some just do not post much. Should we disallow them from OUR roles...because they are silent here ?
Once again...my opinion is simply that we will have a stronger organization if we have a recognized means to rift from our ranks ANY that attempt to discredit us by avowing their undying loyality to the Beast...thereby allowing us a bit of latitude to make that first mistake.
The current pending membership is a case in point. He could well be a dagger aimed at the heart of those California compromisers that infest Calguns. Gaining a toehold over there, by one that speaks their language, would be invaluble.
By the same token...he poses no real risk to us..for NONE of us will change OUR minds.
When you stand on the Constitution, what possible can one do to you that isn't ALREADY being done to us ?
Enplacing a method to bounce snakes makes the structure of this organization invulnerable to attacks of that particular viper.
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quote:Originally posted by Canary * no. 1
By the same token...he poses no real risk to us..for NONE of us will change OUR minds.
I think you make the most important point right here.
I'm not sure which member you're talking about, but his membership in your group is not going to change your goals. I would see no reason to doubt his sincerity unless given a reason to do so.
Speaking for myself, I see no reason why a love of liberty cannot be a "big tent" issue. We can disagree on a great many things, and still understand what the founders intended when writing the Constitution.
I would see no reason to doubt his sincerity unless given a reason to do so.
+1
You vote him in, you can vote him out.
Where is the problem?
quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
I would see no reason to doubt his sincerity unless given a reason to do so.
+1
You vote him in, you can vote him out.
Where is the problem?
+1 or anybody.
Should a member not hold true to the Constitution, then a vote to repeal their membership should take place. Once impeached, his name should remain on the roster, but of course lined out, and a statement of his violation should follow for all to see.
+1
I agree with sarge on this issue.
Should a member not hold true to the Constitution, then a vote to repeal their membership should take place. Once impeached, his name should remain on the roster, but of course lined out, and a statement of his violation should follow for all to see.
Iam in favor of this.
quote:Originally posted by sarge_3ad
Should a member not hold true to the Constitution, then a vote to repeal their membership should take place. Once impeached, his name should remain on the roster, but of course lined out, and a statement of his violation should follow for all to see.
Iam in favor of this.
Another in favor!
Lance
My reason for that ;
It should be readily apparent if a member is here to sabotage the group as a whole.
The FASTER that traitor is rifted...the stronger the Brethren.
I look at the Congress...it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to remove a corrupted member. I would not wish that to be so here.
Allow me to mention something ELSE important ;
For a variety of reasons, the members may well gather and wish to remove me from the membership roles, and my `position' as Number One Canary *.
Do ANY here think that will affect my life-long pursuit of Freedom, and elimination of governmental interference in weapons flow ?
In other words...if we eliminate a member from our ranks, what they do next would INSTANTLY reveal their heart and soul.
I personally would have no hard feelings against the membership, for I know my OWN heart and mind...and I know full well my shortcomings concerning `personality/speech/aggression/.... the whole gamut of `disorders' that frighten/alienate/ turn-off many people.
I would hope that others would adopt that high ground.
I just wanted so say a few things to put everyone at Ease,
I know I'm new to the Forum's and fully understand and I also appreciate the fact that their are others out there that have a solid understanding and are committed to defending of our second amendment rights, Constitution and bill of rights.
I sent a email to those people Who even posted on my request post not to win you over but so that you could get a better understanding of what I consider Urgent.
As a business owner I'm going about 99 miles per hour most of the time and admit openly I make mistake's perhaps even one every day, Its what makes me Human. My personality is I'm pretty aggressive but kind and even friendly, but can see when it counter productive and back off, I'm a doer and get things done. Ya catch more flies with honey and its true.
I have no excuses nor apologize for who I am,I do apologize if I stepped on some toes in the post Regarding request to become a CA. Not my intent. Some confusion existed about My web site and Picture's etc.. I is my fault because I had started a Post called NAHA which I intended as a Poke at the DASTURDLY DOGS which I thought was poking at the CA,
Anyway I started the Post and the theme was Write your Own Constitution and a Big Picture of a Hairless Ape. I Don't know if anyone had seen it but that is what created some confusion when people started asking about my picture.
Now about were I live, I was born and raised in Upper Michigan about 100 Miles above green bay Wisconsin. Raised on a farm and 3 Oldest of 9 Children. Dad was a Peace officer for the Township. I learned the values of Hard work at an Early age. Started deer Hunting at my dads side when I was 6 years old, Joined the Navy when I was 17 (1972)Went threw great lakes Ill.
Moved to California in 1979 because my Wife's parents Moved here and I have been like a Duck out Of water since. Worked as a Tool maker, Started a Tool and Die shop 1987, The wife and I are Listing our house in a few months and our son is taking over the Business we are looking for Property in ND right on the Border so we are close to her Family and all of mine who Live in Michigan and wisconsin.
Gun Laws here are the the worst in the Nation and we all know the few have little chance concerning laws that are written and passed. But I feel People are waking Up.
Every Year I spend 2 to 3 months at my cabin in Upper Michigan with about 20 family members we gather for Hunting season, while I'm there I stop by my Dad's grave site Neal down and pray and I thank God that he was my Father an Honorable Man who served in the USMC in Korea. My dad and every Uncle all seven "his Brother's" served in the Military so I ow great too them, Even more to the ones that never came home.
God bless
Be strong!
Pass the Ammo!.
Humbly,
Mike
I brought this back to the top, to illustrate that we allready have, a few times.[V]
apologies Mike. You still get an "ay" from me. I will say here and now, that you are indeed my brother and will remain that way until such time, and if, you prove to be unworthy of that kinship. I expect no less and no more, but the same from you in return!
Same here.
The man has unequivocally stated his stance on liberty. I will take that at face value until he proves otherwise, but personally, I don't see that happening.
Those who do not espouse the principles of individual liberty will, in relatively short order, show themselves for what they are. Furthermore, I believe that all of the members so far are pretty sharp in all matters Constitutional, and spotting one who does not stand firm should not be difficult at all.
Humbly,
Steve
When men and women can speak less about their personal opinions about religion, abortion, skin color and other differences yet realize that as a whole we have the absolute best plan for a free society; then and only then can we win. I've read allot from you guys and have refrained also from posting on topics that I was not ready or misinformed on. I can tell you this though, if a person wants to handle snakes in this country as a religion then that person can feel right at home in the coal mining territories of Tennessee and Virginia. If a man wants to marry another man, and I know this is not the choice topic in here, those dudes can find a happy life in California or some such other newly liberal state. I'm not for either lifestyle but that is why we surround ourselves and organize within our own communities with like minded people and try and hold on to our own lifestyle. I'm for everything the * stand for but if you can judge a man on words written in space instead of getting to know them on a fishing trip or other outing then it would indeed take many words. I've thought about doing the ritual and asking to join as well but I would rather be judged on my actions.
Humbly,
Steve
The Gays here in California have fought tooth and nail to get gay marriage in and the people said hell no and voted against it twice it is still not legal here. Just wanted to inform is all. This is a big state and I live in Orange County which is the Most Conservative in California. I totally agree with you on being judged by ones action's, that being said I also belong to one race that is the Human race. When people impose their beliefs on others then we have another dictatorship. All people can not and should not be judged by the actions of a few. [;)]Mike