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California State Assembly passes Open Carry Ban
floorguy24
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I'm following this as close as I can.
It appears Assembly member Soldanas Bill AB 1934 has passed the State Assembly and its on it's way to its next step, possibly the Appropriations Committee.
This Bill bans "unloaded open carry" in California. There are a variety of specifics in this Bill, but now we may be losing this right to open carry unloaded in most all public places. And yes, "loaded open carry" is already banned.
It appears to exclude hunting, club/range/target shooting and a few other areas but pretty much bans most all other public situations for "the average" citizen. I'm still reading through this thing.
My only hope for now is that Governor Schwarzenegger will Veto this. I somehow doubt he will though.
It appears Assembly member Soldanas Bill AB 1934 has passed the State Assembly and its on it's way to its next step, possibly the Appropriations Committee.
This Bill bans "unloaded open carry" in California. There are a variety of specifics in this Bill, but now we may be losing this right to open carry unloaded in most all public places. And yes, "loaded open carry" is already banned.
It appears to exclude hunting, club/range/target shooting and a few other areas but pretty much bans most all other public situations for "the average" citizen. I'm still reading through this thing.
My only hope for now is that Governor Schwarzenegger will Veto this. I somehow doubt he will though.
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The only way to protect gun rights is to stop extreme gun violence by offering competent mental health care.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=434277
This is not about testing prior to permitting, this is about curing mental problems. Lord knows Californians have more than their share.
Hwile I too disgusted with this bill and it's passage, I have to wonder, except for the "look what I can do" aspect of this, What good is carrying and unloaded gun in the first place? Your only looking for trouble. Now were this a ban on loaded open carry I would be a little more understanding. But as stated already, that is allready law here. I just don't see the point of getting up set about not being able to carry,in the open, an unloaded gun.
Because now you will not be able to carry a gun anywhere in public (other than very specific/limited places listed like gun ranges, hunting and places of your business/work) anymore. This includes unincorporated/beyond city limit areas, hiking or fishing in the Sierras where you may run into Bear (as I do, weeee!) among other places you may want to exercise your Constitutional rights.
Also, carrying an "unloaded gun" means having the magazine out of and detached from the gun, but still on your hip ready to load in a moments notice. This isn't like carrying an "unloaded gun" with no ammo at all just to look cool or intimidate people, that would be really stupid.
Some of us like to carry for protection, real honest to God protection. If you've never been in that kind of situation, you wouldn't understand. But if you have, you may not see it as "looking for trouble". The only reason it's out in the open, is because it's illegal to carry a concealed gun without a CCW. And by the way, a CCW is very difficult and expensive to obtain here in California.
Hwile I too disgusted with this bill and it's passage, I have to wonder, except for the "look what I can do" aspect of this, What good is carrying and unloaded gun in the first place? Your only looking for trouble.
Just as well as carrying loaded weapon, concealed or not. Congratulations, join the ranks of anti-gunners!
Rock, Just because I don't happen to have the same opinion as you dosen't mean I am anti anything. So please........Ok?
Ok. Floor, Rock, First, I am NOT in any way, an Anti-gunner. And to assume so is rediculous. I under what your talking about Floor. But the guy that they proned out for carrying his Unloaded gun, did NOT have any ammunition on him. He was just walking around with an empty gun on his hip. A complete moron. As for carrying an emtpy gun with ammo in another pocket... You might want to check that. I would be interested ion seeing that part of the law. I say this because even if your in your car with the gun locked in a case. The ammo can not be stored with the firearm. It is considered a concealed firearm.
Rock, Just because I don't happen to have the same opinion as you dosen't mean I am anti anything. So please........Ok?
Sorry Bro, wasn't trying to give you a hard time. Just my opinion.
No worries.
Ok. Floor, Rock, First, I am NOT in any way, an Anti-gunner. And to assume so is rediculous. I under what your talking about Floor. But the guy that they proned out for carrying his Unloaded gun, did NOT have any ammunition on him. He was just walking around with an empty gun on his hip. A complete moron. As for carrying an emtpy gun with ammo in another pocket... You might want to check that. I would be interested ion seeing that part of the law. I say this because even if your in your car with the gun locked in a case. The ammo can not be stored with the firearm. It is considered a concealed firearm.
Rock, Just because I don't happen to have the same opinion as you dosen't mean I am anti anything. So please........Ok?
you are missing the point.
t because I don't happen to have the same opinion as you dosen't mean I am anti anything. So please........Ok?
Yeah, it does.
They KEEP insisting that 'Shall Not Be Infringed' is an OPINION..instead of a straight up, in your face ORDER to governments.
Luckily, they cannot fool all the people, all the time...try as they might.....
I just don't understand how any State can legally remove any Constitutional Right within their State at all from a legal law abiding U.S. citizen with no prior conviction/s.
If this Bill (AB 1934) passes, you basically lose your Second Amendment as soon as you walk out your door (unless you're using it for the "specifically noted" uses). Unblanking-real!
Even though I'm in California, I can't believe it.
So blame the victim some more for your own lack of testicular fortitude to support and defend him...whilst he attempts to gain something back that you have freely given away.
Sounds like a plan to me.
But hey if you think he actually accomplished something productive,,please enlighten me. What was his great victory?
Perhaps there will reach a point where all you big brave men will decide enough is enough...that you will resist.
I pray for a total gun ban...EVERY DAY.
I am so VERY sick of you belly crawlers announcing to the world all about how you live in a 'free country'.
ONLY from the supine position can that claim be made...and I feel a scalding contempt of those saying it every time I hear it.
Your insults mean nothing by the way. I haven't heard you talk about what YOU have done to seperrate yourself from the "belly crawlers". Except of course to pound away on your key board and insult others that aren't lock step with you and worship at the feet on the great Highball. You preach about the constitution and how you hold it high above all other documents. And how if anyone doesn't respect it then they are worse than scum. Ok. I agree with you. I too hold that document in high regard. Second only to the bible. And with that said I accuse you sir of being a hypocrit. Why? Because anyone who dares utter a different opinion than yours is some "belly crawler" You have no time for desenting opinion. No time for freedom of choice, or opinion. No Patience for freedom of speech if it differs from yours. You accuse without proof. Condem others without evidence that is not of you own making. Were you a ruler, you would be just another petty dictator full of your own world view and woe to those who dare to disagree.
Well sir, while I agree with some of your thoughts, I am an American. I have my own mind and do not need you to tell me what your opinion is of my own freedom of thought or expression. I the right to freely express myself. I have the right to Keep and bare arms. I have the right to be safe in my home. And I have no intention of giving up those rights or any of the others for anyone. Not you and not the government. And your petty little insults and proclamations are growing very tiresome. But long live Lord Highball as we all need something to laugh at from time to time.