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UN Treaty endangers Secong Amendment

MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
http://thewarningsigns.blogspot.com/2011/08/57-senators-sign-letter-to-protect.html

WASHINGTON - U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) joined his colleague Senator Jerry Moran (R-KS) and 43 other Senators in expressing grave concern about the dangers posed to Second Amendment rights by the United Nations' Arms Trade Treaty. In a letter to President Obama and Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, the 45 senators said they would oppose ratification of an Arms Trade Treaty that in any way restricts the rights of law-abiding American gun owners. This is enough to block the treaty from Senate passage, as treaties submitted to the U.S. Senate require approval of two-thirds of Senators present to be ratified.


"Our Second Amendment is non-negotiable," said Hatch. "We don't need a bunch of bureaucrats at the United Nations dictating our liberties and freedoms. This Treaty should not be ratified and I will fight it tooth and nail."

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  • redhead71redhead71 Member Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone know who is the 43 senators that oppose the treaty? And the ones who want this treatyto go through?
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seems that there are NOW 57 Senators who oppose the UN Treaty...
    Web Link

    I'm trying to find a list.......
  • stegsteg Member Posts: 871 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For the past year, I have been reading numerous articles about the proposed UN treaty that is a threat to the 2nd Amendment.
    Since when can a foreign power or organization overide our constitution?????? Even if our Senate votes to adopt the treaty, how can this stand up in our Supreme Court.....or am I missing something?
    I honestly believe none of this can or will happen, because any Senator who would vote for such a treaty (including Feinstein and Schumer) would go down in flaming defeat in any future election.
    The American people may be lazy and to a great extent ill-informed, but they aint stupid!!!! And they do get even at election time!
  • MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by redhead71
    Anyone know who is the 43 senators that oppose the treaty? And the ones who want this treatyto go through?


    This list I copied from the letter in the link listed above contains the signers:


    Signed by U.S. Senators Lamar Alexander (R-TN), Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), John Barrasso (R-WY), Roy Blunt (R-MO), John Boozman (R-AR), Scott Brown (R-MA), Richard Burr (R-NC), Dan Coats (R-IN), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Thad Cochran (R-MS), Susan Collins (R-ME), Bob Corker (R-TN), John Cornyn (R-TX), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Mike Crapo (R-ID), Jim DeMint (R-SC), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Dean Heller (R-NV), John Hoeven (R-ND), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), James Inhofe (R-OK), Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Mike Johanns (R-NE), Ron Johnson (R-WI), Jon Kyl (R-AZ), Mike Lee (R-UT), John McCain (R-AZ), Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Jerry Moran (R-KS), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Rand Paul (R-KY), Rob Portman (R-OH), Jim Risch (R-ID), Pat Roberts (R-KS), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Richard Shelby (R-AL), Olympia Snowe (R-ME), John Thune (R-SD), Pat Toomey (R-PA), David Vitter (R-LA), and Roger Wicker (R-MS).
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    look at the social activists judges like the (WISE) latina &^%&^% that now sits in condemnation of our CONSTITUTION
  • COBmmcmssCOBmmcmss Member Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This gun control treaty crap has been floating around the `net for some time now. The bottom line is that every group that has sounded the "alarm" appears to be looking for donations to fight it. Well, for those of you interested, here is the case that sets precedence well into our future.

    The Supreme Court of the United States ruled on this kind of thing in the late 50's. An international treaty CANNOT affect U.S. rights under our Constitution. CANNOT. An international accord that is inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution is void under domestic U.S. law, the same as any other federal law in conflict with the Constitution. This principle was most clearly established in the case of Reid v. Covert. [Reid v. Covert]

    In Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), as a landmark case, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the United States Senate. According to the decision, "...this Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty," although the case itself was with regard to an executive agreement and the treaty has never been ruled unconstitutional..."

    Right from our own Constitution Article VI, the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, declares:
    "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;... ."

    Courtesy of COB
  • A J ChristA J Christ Member Posts: 7,534
    edited November -1
    Way past the time to get the US out of the UN and then the UN out of the US.
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,332 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am shocked.....Durbin from Illinois is not one of them...[}:)][;)]
  • NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know it's possible for the creator of the thread to EDIT the title of the thread, right?

    SECOND Amendment...with a D, not G...[:D]
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I found a copy of the letter... As signed 22-July,2011
    Letter against UN Treaty

    And here's the list...
    45 of 47 Republican's signed NO Democraps..

    Senator Jerry Moran, Kansas (R)
    Senator John Hoeven, North Dakota (R)
    Senator Lamar Alexander, Tennessee (R)
    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Texas (R)
    Senator Kelly Ayotte, New Hampshire, (R)
    Senator James Inhofe, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator John Barrasso, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Johnny Isakson, Georgia (R)
    Senator Roy Blunt, Missouri (R)
    Senator Mike Johanns, Nebraska (R)
    Senator John Boozman, Arkansas (R)
    Senator Ronald Harold "Ron" Johnson, Wisconsin (R)
    Senator Scott Brown, Massachusetts (R)
    Senator Jon Kyl, Arizona (R)
    Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina (R)
    Senator Michael "Mike" Lee, Utah (R)
    Senator Saxby Chambliss, Georgia (R)
    Senator John McCain, Arizona (R)
    Senator Dan Coats, Indiana (R)
    Senator Mitch McConnell, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Tom Coburn, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator Rand Paul, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Thad Cochran, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Rob Portman, Ohio (R)
    Senator Susan Collins, Maine (R)
    Senator Pat Roberts, Kansas (R)
    Senator Bob Corker, Tennessee (R)
    Senator James E. Risch, Idaho (R)
    Senator John Cornyn, Texas (R)
    Senator Marco Rubio, Florida (R)
    Senator Mike Crapo, Idaho (R)
    Senator Jeff Sessions, Alabama (R)
    Senator Jim DeMint, South Carolina (R)
    Senator Richard Shelby, Alabama (D turned R)
    Senator Mike Enzi, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Olympia Snowe, Maine (R)
    Senator Lindsey Graham, South Carolina (R)
    Senator John Thune, South Dakota (R)
    Senator Chuck Grassley, Iowa (R)
    Senator Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania (R)
    Senator Orrin Hatch, Utah (R)
    Senator David Vitter, Louisiana (R)
    Senator Dean Heller, Nevada (R)
    Senator Roger Wicker, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Lisa Murkowski, Alaska (R)
  • NavybatNavybat Member Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the UN was a great idea whose time has come and gone. It's toothless, dysfunctional, unable to police and enforce itself, and disrespected around the world.

    I agree, get the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US.
  • sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by retroxler58
    I found a copy of the letter... As signed 22-July,2011
    Letter against UN Treaty

    And here's the list...
    45 of 47 Republican's signed NO Democraps..

    Senator Jerry Moran, Kansas (R)
    Senator John Hoeven, North Dakota (R)
    Senator Lamar Alexander, Tennessee (R)
    Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Texas (R)
    Senator Kelly Ayotte, New Hampshire, (R)
    Senator James Inhofe, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator John Barrasso, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Johnny Isakson, Georgia (R)
    Senator Roy Blunt, Missouri (R)
    Senator Mike Johanns, Nebraska (R)
    Senator John Boozman, Arkansas (R)
    Senator Ronald Harold "Ron" Johnson, Wisconsin (R)
    Senator Scott Brown, Massachusetts (R)
    Senator Jon Kyl, Arizona (R)
    Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina (R)
    Senator Michael "Mike" Lee, Utah (R)
    Senator Saxby Chambliss, Georgia (R)
    Senator John McCain, Arizona (R)
    Senator Dan Coats, Indiana (R)
    Senator Mitch McConnell, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Tom Coburn, Oklahoma (R)
    Senator Rand Paul, Kentucky (R)
    Senator Thad Cochran, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Rob Portman, Ohio (R)
    Senator Susan Collins, Maine (R)
    Senator Pat Roberts, Kansas (R)
    Senator Bob Corker, Tennessee (R)
    Senator James E. Risch, Idaho (R)
    Senator John Cornyn, Texas (R)
    Senator Marco Rubio, Florida (R)
    Senator Mike Crapo, Idaho (R)
    Senator Jeff Sessions, Alabama (R)
    Senator Jim DeMint, South Carolina (R)
    Senator Richard Shelby, Alabama (D turned R)
    Senator Mike Enzi, Wyoming (R)
    Senator Olympia Snowe, Maine (R)
    Senator Lindsey Graham, South Carolina (R)
    Senator John Thune, South Dakota (R)
    Senator Chuck Grassley, Iowa (R)
    Senator Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania (R)
    Senator Orrin Hatch, Utah (R)
    Senator David Vitter, Louisiana (R)
    Senator Dean Heller, Nevada (R)
    Senator Roger Wicker, Mississippi (R)
    Senator Lisa Murkowski, Alaska (R)

    I never expect the liberal socialist left to do anything that backs the Constitution. Socialists all. Just look at the video going around of Good old maxine....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3I-PVVowFY
  • 45long45long Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Navy, You forgot corrupt to a degree that only a Democrat can know and admire.
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