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Legal to own Black powder pistols in New York?

SpartaSparta Member Posts: 28 ✭✭
Does anyone know if it is legal or are there any restrictions to possess a civil war era replica black powder pistol without a permit, etc. Or for that matter, firearms that are considered antiques, without permits, etc? I am wondering about traveling to New York State up along the Hudson and would like to bring along a black powder pistol and maybe rifle to club shoot should the opportunity arise.

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    slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As I recall they are treated the same as modern guns. NY residents??
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    SpartaSparta Member Posts: 28 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you Sovereignman, that was helpful and useful information. I've heard as much.
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    sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sparta
    Thank you Sovereignman, that was helpful and useful information. I've heard as much.
    It is funny you post that kind of a question here instead of going to your state site that covers the answer. never rely on opinion it will get you in trouble.

    http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/NYSL.pdf

    http://www.nyfirearms.com/blog/nys-gun-laws/


    http://www.nysrpa.org/


    http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_ny.htm

    I assume if you can ask the qestion you can do a bit of research on your own, here are some links just for you.
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    guntech59guntech59 Member Posts: 23,187 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Black powder pistols go on your permit.....just like and modern pistol or revolver does.[:(!]
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    sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
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    The bigger the city ,the more totalitarian it is. The storm trooper site you want.

    http://troopers.ny.gov/faqs/firearms/Permits.cfm
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    sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by sovereignman
    The bigger the city ,the more totalitarian it is. The storm trooper site you want.

    http://troopers.ny.gov/faqs/firearms/Permits.cfm


    Do I understand it right that if you don't buy bullets for it and shoot it somewhere then you don't need a permit for it? I'm pretty sure no shop dealer is going to let that go out their door..... That's a hanging offense for sure.
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    SpartaSparta Member Posts: 28 ✭✭
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    OK, so its clear that in all cases where a black powder weapon is found without any components it is not considered a firearm, but when it is to be used, that is fired, it is a firearm. That should make perfect sense to any legally insane person...so I wonder if these interpretations (see above) apply to out of state travelers. More specifically, let's say I was traveling from Florida and was staying in New York state for a two week vacation, and let's say I brought along in my car a black powder pistol with no powder, lead or primers, nothing to make it work as a firearm...then I would not be in violation of the NY state firearms laws - correct or not correct?
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    wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,204 ✭✭✭
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    Its lawyers and law enforcement dreams...

    Vague and ambiguous rules.

    What ever happend to the 2nd amendment?
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    sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by sovereignman
    The bigger the city ,the more totalitarian it is. The storm trooper site you want.

    http://troopers.ny.gov/faqs/firearms/Permits.cfm


    Do I understand it right that if you don't buy bullets for it and shoot it somewhere then you don't need a permit for it? I'm pretty sure no shop dealer is going to let that go out their door..... That's a hanging offense for sure.
    Its the troopers fact page, it is what it is.
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    sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    Its lawyers and law enforcement dreams...

    Vague and ambiguous rules.

    What ever happend to the 2nd amendment?


    The second amendment is DOA Americans have lost their will for true freedom. The schools indoctrinate our children, etc...

    Time for many Americans to grow a set?
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    Spider7115Spider7115 Member, Moderator Posts: 29,714 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Sparta
    OK, so its clear that in all cases where a black powder weapon is found without any components it is not considered a firearm, but when it is to be used, that is fired, it is a firearm. That should make perfect sense to any legally insane person...so I wonder if these interpretations (see above) apply to out of state travelers. More specifically, let's say I was traveling from Florida and was staying in New York state for a two week vacation, and let's say I brought along in my car a black powder pistol with no powder, lead or primers, nothing to make it work as a firearm...then I would not be in violation of the NY state firearms laws - correct or not correct?

    That's correct. It's perfectly legal as long as you don't have the caps, powder and balls with it. You can even buy one over the counter without a permit.
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